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Kenya Airways...why ignore..
passiveinvestor
#14091 Posted : Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:18:07 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 12/8/2006
Posts: 104
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ considers rights issue ahead of nationalisation
https://www.businessdail...55100-a3xn12/index.html

@obiero get your chqbook ready!
"Kenya Airways is still considering selling new shares to small investors ahead of the carrier’s nationalisation."

There's no other way to create equilibrium


What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization?

they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price

I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp

This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!!
obiero
#14092 Posted : Wednesday, November 20, 2019 5:23:21 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
passiveinvestor wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ considers rights issue ahead of nationalisation
https://www.businessdail...55100-a3xn12/index.html

@obiero get your chqbook ready!
"Kenya Airways is still considering selling new shares to small investors ahead of the carrier’s nationalisation."

There's no other way to create equilibrium


What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization?

they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price

I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp

This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!!

You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#14093 Posted : Wednesday, November 20, 2019 8:43:25 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
passiveinvestor wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ considers rights issue ahead of nationalisation
https://www.businessdail...55100-a3xn12/index.html

@obiero get your chqbook ready!
"Kenya Airways is still considering selling new shares to small investors ahead of the carrier’s nationalisation."

There's no other way to create equilibrium


What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization?

they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price

I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp

This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!!

You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed

What's the current NAV/share of KQ?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#14094 Posted : Wednesday, November 20, 2019 9:03:15 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
passiveinvestor wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ considers rights issue ahead of nationalisation
https://www.businessdail...55100-a3xn12/index.html

@obiero get your chqbook ready!
"Kenya Airways is still considering selling new shares to small investors ahead of the carrier’s nationalisation."

There's no other way to create equilibrium


What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization?

they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price

I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp

This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!!

You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed

What's the current NAV/share of KQ?

Lala

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#14095 Posted : Wednesday, November 20, 2019 9:13:26 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
passiveinvestor wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ considers rights issue ahead of nationalisation
https://www.businessdail...55100-a3xn12/index.html

@obiero get your chqbook ready!
"Kenya Airways is still considering selling new shares to small investors ahead of the carrier’s nationalisation."

There's no other way to create equilibrium


What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization?

they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price

I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp

This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!!

You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed

What's the current NAV/share of KQ?

Lala
In English Laughing out loudly
What's the current NAV/share of KQ?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#14096 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:39:35 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
passiveinvestor wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ considers rights issue ahead of nationalisation
https://www.businessdail...55100-a3xn12/index.html

@obiero get your chqbook ready!
"Kenya Airways is still considering selling new shares to small investors ahead of the carrier’s nationalisation."

There's no other way to create equilibrium


What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization?

they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price

I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp

This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!!

You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed

What's the current NAV/share of KQ?

Lala
In English Laughing out loudly
What's the current NAV/share of KQ?


Shareholders' equity is negative yet elder @Obiero expects to be paid 8.52 per share by a broke GOK.
Life is short. Live passionately.
VituVingiSana
#14097 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:22:00 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,347
Location: Nairobi
sparkly wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
passiveinvestor wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
FUNKY wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KQ considers rights issue ahead of nationalisation
https://www.businessdail...55100-a3xn12/index.html

@obiero get your chqbook ready!
"Kenya Airways is still considering selling new shares to small investors ahead of the carrier’s nationalisation."

There's no other way to create equilibrium


What sense does this make? Why would government invite shareholders to buy shares in the airline and then pay the shareholders back through nationalization?

they just want to create equilibrium to avoid court cases once they settle on buyout price

I thought it was common sense.. Why do people find it hard to grasp

This is outright fraud and everyone who prepares, signs and markets the offering memorandum should be held liable. It is a GUARANTEE that they will lose money. Even if you have the right to buy shares of 0.5KES at a discount, the final offer price can still drop to 0.001!!!

You are assuming that the 98% stake held by GoK, KQLC, KLM, KQ ESOP shall fall to that level.. Very skewed

What's the current NAV/share of KQ?

Lala
In English Laughing out loudly
What's the current NAV/share of KQ?

Shareholders' equity is negative yet elder @Obiero expects to be paid 8.52 per share by a broke GOK.
Let @Obiero tell us Laughing out loudly
KQ is not Amazon with AWS or an amazing brand or a massive base of loyal customers.
Even Kenyans, like myself, shop around for tickets. We want value for our hard-earned money.

So @Obiero what's the current NAV/share and projected EPS of KQ?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
nairobby
#14098 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:32:47 PM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/18/2019
Posts: 185
Location: kenya
@obiero's move could work simply because we are in a banana republic. They should not pay anything more than 0.00 for a company in negative equity.The banks got in at a tough time, they must be redeemed. This is a true kamikaze move however, I have to say..
sparkly
#14099 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:03:20 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
nairobby wrote:
@obiero's move could work simply because we are in a banana republic. They should not pay anything more than 0.00 for a company in negative equity.The banks got in at a tough time, they must be redeemed. This is a true kamikaze move however, I have to say..


This is Hope as an investment strategy.
Life is short. Live passionately.
obiero
#14100 Posted : Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:04:18 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,217
Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
nairobby wrote:
@obiero's move could work simply because we are in a banana republic. They should not pay anything more than 0.00 for a company in negative equity.The banks got in at a tough time, they must be redeemed. This is a true kamikaze move however, I have to say..


This is Hope as an investment strategy.

Hope is eternal

KQ ABP 4.26
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