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Fyatu wrote:Assuming a hypothetical situation where i @Fyatu holds 1 million KQ shares and has never sold for the past 10 years, will my broker call me and inform me that brother @Obiero wants to lend 100,000 shares of these for shorting??? In this our Kenya, how sure am i that i will not be shafted seriously?? The rules already say that only gazetted persons will be allowed to lend. So institutions like pension funds, a listed company or any institution licensed by CMA “The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,120 Location: Nairobi
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shiznit wrote:Fyatu wrote:Assuming a hypothetical situation where i @Fyatu holds 1 million KQ shares and has never sold for the past 10 years, will my broker call me and inform me that brother @Obiero wants to lend 100,000 shares of these for shorting??? In this our Kenya, how sure am i that i will not be shafted seriously?? The rules already say that only gazetted persons will be allowed to lend. So institutions like pension funds, a listed company or any institution licensed by CMA Anyone who can put up the required collateral should be allowed to short the shares. This BS about allowing just a few is silly. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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VituVingiSana wrote:shiznit wrote:Fyatu wrote:Assuming a hypothetical situation where i @Fyatu holds 1 million KQ shares and has never sold for the past 10 years, will my broker call me and inform me that brother @Obiero wants to lend 100,000 shares of these for shorting??? In this our Kenya, how sure am i that i will not be shafted seriously?? The rules already say that only gazetted persons will be allowed to lend. So institutions like pension funds, a listed company or any institution licensed by CMA Anyone who can put up the required collateral should be allowed to short the shares. This BS about allowing just a few is silly. Relax @Vitu, the statement doesn't suggest otherwise. Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/18/2014 Posts: 1,127
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Pesa Nane wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:shiznit wrote:Fyatu wrote:Assuming a hypothetical situation where i @Fyatu holds 1 million KQ shares and has never sold for the past 10 years, will my broker call me and inform me that brother @Obiero wants to lend 100,000 shares of these for shorting??? In this our Kenya, how sure am i that i will not be shafted seriously?? The rules already say that only gazetted persons will be allowed to lend. So institutions like pension funds, a listed company or any institution licensed by CMA Anyone who can put up the required collateral should be allowed to short the shares. This BS about allowing just a few is silly. Relax @Vitu, the statement doesn't suggest otherwise. Sounds as though they are running a pilot program with no timeline for a full scale roll out. Placing too many restrictions on the eligible short sellers (wonder who they are targeting with this one) and eligible stocks for shorting is tantamount to throwing a spanner in the works before hand. This market is very boring at the moment, it would be a pity if some shorting candidates went unpunished in this cycle. The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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It's January and market is showing some positive movement, can this last?safcom,kcb,nic,bbk ,centum and others are moving up "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,702 Location: NAIROBI
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Kenol Kobil has traded 368mn shares so far. That is 25% of it's issued shares Turnover today will be in excess of sh.6bn Captain Obiero say something Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Kenol Kobil has traded 368mn shares so far.
That is 25% of it's issued shares
Turnover today will be in excess of sh.6bn
Captain Obiero say something indirect takeover? "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/20/2011 Posts: 1,820 Location: Nakuru
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mlennyma wrote:It's January and market is showing some positive movement, can this last?safcom,kcb,nic,bbk ,centum and others are moving up My NSE dashboard today looks very positive. Is today that day that marks the beginning of... Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,120 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:Kenol Kobil has traded 368mn shares so far.
That is 25% of it's issued shares
Turnover today will be in excess of sh.6bn
Captain Obiero say something Please leave Captain @obiero alone since KK doesn't supply fuel to KQ unless it's COD. Ohana made a point, during the AGM, to say that KK only supplies fuel to firms that pay on time!  BTW, KK has 40% of the Jet Fuel market which means many of the international airlines, which pay on time, probably buy from KK. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/1/2014 Posts: 903 Location: sky
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Fyatu wrote:mlennyma wrote:It's January and market is showing some positive movement, can this last?safcom,kcb,nic,bbk ,centum and others are moving up My NSE dashboard today looks very positive. Is today that day that marks the beginning of... im happy with what im seeing especially centum There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,120 Location: Nairobi
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Why is it almost all green today? My holdings are more or less up... but I am a long-term investor so I am not exiting at these prices. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 72 Location: KENYA
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lochaz-index wrote:Pesa Nane wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:shiznit wrote:Fyatu wrote:Assuming a hypothetical situation where i @Fyatu holds 1 million KQ shares and has never sold for the past 10 years, will my broker call me and inform me that brother @Obiero wants to lend 100,000 shares of these for shorting??? In this our Kenya, how sure am i that i will not be shafted seriously?? The rules already say that only gazetted persons will be allowed to lend. So institutions like pension funds, a listed company or any institution licensed by CMA Anyone who can put up the required collateral should be allowed to short the shares. This BS about allowing just a few is silly. Relax @Vitu, the statement doesn't suggest otherwise. Sounds as though they are running a pilot program with no timeline for a full scale roll out. Placing too many restrictions on the eligible short sellers (wonder who they are targeting with this one) and eligible stocks for shorting is tantamount to throwing a spanner in the works before hand. This market is very boring at the moment, it would be a pity if some shorting candidates went unpunished in this cycle. I thought so too. “The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 72 Location: KENYA
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Ericsson wrote:Kenol Kobil has traded 368mn shares so far.
That is 25% of it's issued shares
Turnover today will be in excess of sh.6bn
Captain Obiero say something Something fishy has been cooking on this one for a while. Whoever is the chef better present the best smoked salmon ever after all this teasing. “The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 72 Location: KENYA
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Pesa Nane wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:shiznit wrote:Fyatu wrote:Assuming a hypothetical situation where i @Fyatu holds 1 million KQ shares and has never sold for the past 10 years, will my broker call me and inform me that brother @Obiero wants to lend 100,000 shares of these for shorting??? In this our Kenya, how sure am i that i will not be shafted seriously?? The rules already say that only gazetted persons will be allowed to lend. So institutions like pension funds, a listed company or any institution licensed by CMA Anyone who can put up the required collateral should be allowed to short the shares. This BS about allowing just a few is silly. Relax @Vitu, the statement doesn't suggest otherwise. Actually there's a similar statement in there for persons allowed to short. So the restriction is both on lenders and people who can short. “The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent.” - John Maynard Keynes
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Quote:Become One of the Few Investors Who Grasps that News DOESN'T Move the Financial Markets,
Who Understands that Market Volatility Comes in Waves And Who Is Prepared AHEAD of Time Quote:Coming Market Conditions Will Separate 3 Types of Investors. Which are you?
EWI's research shows that many financial markets, including stocks, are approaching a critical juncture. The ensuing volatility will separate investors into three broad categories.
Prepared investors will be positioned to survive and prosper in the new environment. Unprepared investors will, hopefully, realize their precarious position and scramble to safety.
The third group is the Pseudo-Prepared. They think they are prepared…but they are not. Their strategies rest on assumptions like the Fed controls the economy; earnings drive stock prices; news determines the market's path; gold is a good hedge; diversification equals stability…and many other “truths.”
The problem is that these assumptions are demonstrably false. READ MOREConventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,120 Location: Nairobi
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Pesa Nane wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:shiznit wrote:Fyatu wrote:Assuming a hypothetical situation where i @Fyatu holds 1 million KQ shares and has never sold for the past 10 years, will my broker call me and inform me that brother @Obiero wants to lend 100,000 shares of these for shorting??? In this our Kenya, how sure am i that i will not be shafted seriously?? The rules already say that only gazetted persons will be allowed to lend. So institutions like pension funds, a listed company or any institution licensed by CMA Anyone who can put up the required collateral should be allowed to short the shares. This BS about allowing just a few is silly. Relax @Vitu, the statement doesn't suggest otherwise. English isn't an easy language to master. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/8/2018 Posts: 2,211 Location: DC (Dustbowl County)
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I give this thread the "most interesting" in cyberspace history in terms of investment theory. You know the Texans also used a similar "wave analysis" to find oil in the desert. They would get a young woman in a large skirt to dance very vigorously around a piece of land all morning and where her britches would fall to the ground would be the point where the wave analysis had proclaimed oil.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/18/2008 Posts: 3,434 Location: Kerugoya
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MugundaMan wrote:I give this thread the "most interesting" in cyberspace history in terms of investment theory. You know the Texans also used a similar "wave analysis" to find oil in the desert. They would get a young woman in a large skirt to dance very vigorously around a piece of land all morning and where her britches would fall to the ground would be the point where the wave analysis had proclaimed oil. What is that stuff they say about "Monos" again?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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 NSE 20 Share Index. The move to levels below 3540s still in cards. A move below 3670s will be good indication that the scenario is playing out as forecasted. Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/11/2006 Posts: 2,304
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 Safaricom. Circle wave ((iii)) ended at about 30.00. Expecting a correction for circle wave ((iv)) to level targets 24.80s and 23.00s . Thereafter a move above 30.00s to complete circle wave ((v)). Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
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