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Elliott Wave Analysis Of The NSE 20
mnandii
#261 Posted : Monday, January 19, 2015 8:36:38 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
This theories will make pple very poor

My sentiments too. So far I have kept my opinions to myself because the cartoonists are entitled to their opinion too and I know how sensitive they can get when their cartoons are challenged.

I also have never taken time to understand the cartoons and I therefore desist from challenging them but at a higher/conceptual level, I am extremely apprehensive.

Will I take time to try and understand the cartoons world. Not any time soon! Quite a number of things in the "things to do" list, cartoons don't make the current list.


I don't mind any challenge to my analysis. You will notice that I have quoted several wazuans who have provided a contrary view to mine. In fact I invite you to post your side of the story. smile

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mkonomtupu
#262 Posted : Monday, January 19, 2015 1:18:39 PM
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the dominant colour in the market today is red which consistent with the @mnandii analysis. I'm not a cartoonist although I understand the theory about charts but at least I respect the time and skill they use to give us the cartoons.
mnandii
#263 Posted : Monday, January 19, 2015 3:58:51 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
the dominant colour in the market today is red which consistent with the @mnandii analysis. I'm not a cartoonist although I understand the theory about charts but at least I respect the time and skill they use to give us the cartoons.

Thank you bro.
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mnandii
#264 Posted : Monday, January 19, 2015 4:50:16 PM
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mnandii wrote:


Sura: I had a bad dream.
Spartacus: What dream?
Sura: PORK in jungle green millitary uniform.
Spartacus: What message did you take from it?
Sura: The state, the Government, becoming heavily millitarised. Negative social mood taking over. All forms of discent to be punished severely. A difficult time straight ahead ...Sad


Posted back in Sept. 2014.

Today bloggers get arrested.
Pupils are tear-gassed.
Speech is punished etc etc.

That is the state of negative social mood which is preceded by a fall in the stock market.
Expect volatile politics ahead. Pray

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mnandii
#265 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 1:40:58 PM
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The ECB bazooka marked a market top. Soon cries of market crash will rent the air.

Carefull with stocks!

E$ should rally.
$JPY should finish a triangle and rally.
Gold is rising in a third wave and should continue with the rise.
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mnandii
#266 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 4:36:03 PM
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mnandii wrote:
The Impulse wave from Sep. 2014 high at 5406.39


A closer look and FIB analysis:



After completion of wave 1 down (Composed of waves [i] ......wave [v]) the NSE 20 share index is likely rising in wave 2 whereby wave [a] shld be complete soon. Another downswing toward 4907 is expected before a rally above 5193 to complete wave 2.

Size of wave 1 = 5406.39 - 4907.27 = 499.12

Wave 2 targets are 5157, 5216 or 5300 levels. After wave 2 completes we shld expect a drop below 4900.


Today, 23rd Jan. 2015, closing level is 5217.88!


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Gatheuzi
#267 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 6:48:33 PM
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Grt work @mnadii, so we should now wait for 4900smile
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mlennyma
#268 Posted : Friday, January 23, 2015 9:34:47 PM
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The nse 20 index is only a measure of the stocks that comprise it so it can fall even to 4800 and my stock which isn't a member of it remain un affected or slightly affected.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
mnandii
#269 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2015 6:54:39 PM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Grt work @mnadii, so we should now wait for 4900smile

smile

Yes.
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mnandii
#270 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2015 6:57:03 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
The nse 20 index is only a measure of the stocks that comprise it so it can fall even to 4800 and my stock which isn't a member of it remain un affected or slightly affected.


Think

I may not be comfortable with the thought though.
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mnandii
#271 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2015 9:17:46 PM
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mnandii wrote:


15 minute chart of Equity Bank.

The 12345 (1) pattern shown is called an impulse wave. Impulse wave show the direction of the main trend.
I anticipate Equity to rise to either 56.50 or 58 bob then fall.

Wave 1 is at 61.00
Wave 2 is at 62.00
Wave 3 is at 53.50
Wave 4 is at 56.00
Wave 5 is at 50.00

Size of waves:
Wave 1 = (63-61) = 2.00
Wave 2 = (62-61) = 1.00
Wave 3 = (62-53.50)=8.50
Wave 4 = (56-53.50)=2.50
Wave 5 = (56-50) = 6.00

Wave (1) = (63-50) = 13.00

Golden ratio relationships:

Wave 2 retraced Fibonacci 50% of wave 1.

Wave 3 = Fibonacci 4.236 X Wave 1.

Wave (2) will end at either 56.50 ( 50% retracement of wave (1)) or at 58 (being 61.8% retracement of wave (1)).

All in all, Equity should not return to 63/- at all.



Equity tested a high of 56 on friday 23rd. If our labelling is right Equity shld start a big bear market (the most likely scenario anyway). 63/= level is key.
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hisah
#272 Posted : Monday, January 26, 2015 6:02:52 PM
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A sizable shakeout is very likely soon across many global stocks. Then the ECB bid bazooka will be unleashed after that discount window.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
mnandii
#273 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 9:02:52 AM
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Inflation has stayed below the Fed's target for more than two years. Yet investors still focus on the Fed's every move. So now try to guess the publication date of still another quote from The Elliott Wave Theorist:

"The vast majority of investors seems confident that the Fed’s actions make a stock market collapse impossible. [We] hear comments along these lines: 'the Fed will provide liquidity,' 'the Fed is injecting money into the system.'

"[The truth is,] the Fed does not 'inject' liquidity; it only offers it. If nobody wants it, the inflation game is over. The determinant of that matter is the market. When bull markets turn to bear, confidence turns to fear, and fearful people do not lend or borrow at the same rates as confident ones. The ultimate drivers of inflation and deflation are human mental states that the Fed cannot manipulate.

"The day the Fed lowers one of its rates or engineers a major temporary loan -- and the stock market goes down anyway -- is the day that investors will become utterly uncertain of what they believe about market causality, and panic will have no bridle."


The Theorist published this in September 2007. One month later the stock market topped, followed by the year-and-a-half meltdown which ushered in the Great Recession (from which we still have not fully recovered).

Why didn't the Fed stop the collapse seven years ago? The short answer is: If they could have they would have. Just something to keep in mind for investors who continue to pin their hopes on the Fed.


Read more: http://www.elliottwave.c...es/archives/2015/01/29/(Video,-412-min.)-Deflation-Why-the-Fed-Has-Been-Losing-the-Battle.aspx#ixzz3QHXEaiWG
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mnandii
#274 Posted : Friday, January 30, 2015 9:17:14 AM
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Quite interesting times in real estate indeed!

I made a post here a few months ago about Universities starting courses in Real Estate. That was a sign of a bear market.

Today in BD we have a heading "Upper Hill land most costly as prices in Nairobi up 535pc" and also something in TV about land in Nairobi becoming more costly than gold.

Upper Hill Land

Also there has lately been stories of grabbers targeting public property: another sign of the huge interest in land.

People, these are sentiment extremes in these markets. Real estate is going to fall. Your best bet of when to buy it is around 2016 when you'll purchase it at cents to the shilling at current market prices. Be patient and hold onto your cash.

The decceleration is now quite near.

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mnandii
#275 Posted : Saturday, January 31, 2015 10:17:19 AM
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Shhhhsh. Buy Bitcoin now! Have a TF of > 2 yrs.
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sparkly
#276 Posted : Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:05:17 PM
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mnandii wrote:


People, these are sentiment extremes in these markets. Real estate is going to fall. Your best bet of when to buy it is around 2016 when you'll purchase it at cents to the shilling at current market prices. Be patient and hold onto your cash.

The decceleration is now quite near.




@Mnandii I would welcome a fall BUT with a rising population, growing GDP and a hugely cash based property market I doubt if it will happen.
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sparkly
#277 Posted : Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:21:35 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
The nse 20 index is only a measure of the stocks that comprise it so it can fall even to 4800 and my stock which isn't a member of it remain un affected or slightly affected.


Stocks rise and fall like geese in a formation, taking turns at the front, middle and back but always in the flock.~~~ Sparkly, 2015
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mic_mic
#278 Posted : Saturday, January 31, 2015 1:39:19 PM
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mnandii wrote:
Inflation has stayed below the Fed's target for more than two years. Yet investors still focus on the Fed's every move. So now try to guess the publication date of still another quote from The Elliott Wave Theorist:

"The vast majority of investors seems confident that the Fed’s actions make a stock market collapse impossible. [We] hear comments along these lines: 'the Fed will provide liquidity,' 'the Fed is injecting money into the system.'

"[The truth is,] the Fed does not 'inject' liquidity; it only offers it. If nobody wants it, the inflation game is over. The determinant of that matter is the market. When bull markets turn to bear, confidence turns to fear, and fearful people do not lend or borrow at the same rates as confident ones. The ultimate drivers of inflation and deflation are human mental states that the Fed cannot manipulate.

"The day the Fed lowers one of its rates or engineers a major temporary loan -- and the stock market goes down anyway -- is the day that investors will become utterly uncertain of what they believe about market causality, and panic will have no bridle."


The Theorist published this in September 2007. One month later the stock market topped, followed by the year-and-a-half meltdown which ushered in the Great Recession (from which we still have not fully recovered).

Why didn't the Fed stop the collapse seven years ago? The short answer is: If they could have they would have. Just something to keep in mind for investors who continue to pin their hopes on the Fed.


Read more: http://www.elliottwave.c...es/archives/2015/01/29/(Video,-412-min.)-Deflation-Why-the-Fed-Has-Been-Losing-the-Battle.aspx#ixzz3QHXEaiWG
Follow us: @elliottwaveintl on Twitter | ElliottWaveInternational on Facebook


I call them text book investors. All they do is follow word for word textbook concepts that have now long been abandoned!

Anyway, here is a chart of the Dow Jones

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mnandii
#279 Posted : Sunday, February 01, 2015 7:01:00 PM
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During the difficult times ahead it will be necessary to have something to keep you in perspective. Here they are:









They should serve you well.
Conventional thinkers waste time building shelters when they are unnecessary and then have no shelters when they need them the most. Socionomists do the opposite.
mnandii
#280 Posted : Sunday, February 01, 2015 7:09:19 PM
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sparkly wrote:
mnandii wrote:


People, these are sentiment extremes in these markets. Real estate is going to fall. Your best bet of when to buy it is around 2016 when you'll purchase it at cents to the shilling at current market prices. Be patient and hold onto your cash.

The decceleration is now quite near.




@Mnandii I would welcome a fall BUT with a rising population, growing GDP and a hugely cash based property market I doubt if it will happen.


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Most people think that the economy is a key determinant of stock market behavior. Pages 260 through 264 of The Wave Principle of Human Social Behavior and the New Science of Socionomics1 demonstrate that actually, social mood trends, as reflected by the trends of the stock market, determine the direction of economic activity. Most people think that politics affect the stock market. Pages 272 through 282 in the book show that the social moods, as reflected by the stock market, controls the selection of leaders and therefore the direction and outcome of politics. Most people think that peace and war mightily affect the valuation of stocks. Pages 265 through 270 show that aggregate mood trends, as reflected by stock prices, determine social climates that are conducive to peace or war. The fundamental observation of the new science of socionomics is that social mood, which is patterned according to the Wave Principle, is the generator of social action, be it economic, political or cultural. The key insight of socionomics is that the direction of causality between social mood and social action is precisely the opposite of that which is almost universally presumed; the former dictates the character of the latter, not vice versa.


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