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Gitau Warigi on gay rights
Amores
#131 Posted : Monday, January 06, 2014 11:59:55 PM
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@ alba,do you know any gay people?
I am happy
githundi
#132 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:01:45 AM
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I usually pity women who say they cannot be married as second wives while they are dating married men or are in their twilight years as singles.
Why can't they understand the simple fact there are not enough men for each of them?
A problem made worse by these gay people.
Democracy does not belong to the dead
githundi
#133 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:04:52 AM
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7. There are those men who can't manage even one wife.
There those who can only manage one.
There are those who can manage several.
So be and let be.
Wengine wawache wivu.
Democracy does not belong to the dead
kysse
#134 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 12:11:17 AM
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washiku wrote:
Suppose you are a parent...your son is now 17years. You realise he is gay. What happens?


I will ask myself where I have been throughout his growing years.God forbid that I should have a son in law for my son
Values are instilled from the time a boy realises that he's physically diff from girls and becomes conscious of God.-samaki mkunje angali mbichi.


I know the pressures associated with teenage hood,some of which can shake a morally upright kid and throw them off balance, but I choose to believe that if one avails themselves to become their kid's best friend,then there is nothing that they won't share with you.

Some gays became as a result of seeking
love,attention,belonging,acceptance,guidance,
experimentation etc.
Now If I offer all the above and they still turn out otherwise,I will not stand condemned as a parent.
Neither will I disown them but try to win them back with love.

each man to himself
Nabwire
#135 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 1:02:33 AM
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Hamburglar I feel like I have to apologize to you because this degenerated to bashing you, which is unfortunate because it was a good discussion. Please let it be known that I believe gay people should be able to choose their lifestyles, all I'm against is the indoctrination of children and the resultant backlash if you say anything against their lifestyle. I am speaking in the context of the US where you are pretty much not allowed to say anything negative about gay people. I for example used to like Beyoncé, but with the release of her latest album, she has become nothing more than a glorified stripper, I am allowed to criticize her but had she been gay, especially had she been a man, I would be considered a bigot. I think that's wrong, people should be allowed to air their views, as long as they do not cause direct harm to others. You may be ok with your children being taught about gay lifestyles and even going to gay parades, I on the other hand am not. What I want is the right to go through life without having to deal with other people's issues, imagine being asked by a 5year old what does being gay mean? With shows like Modern family, its getting harder for parents to sit down with their kids and watch tv. And you are right, there are heterosexual shows that are also offensive, but sadly parents have been muzzled for fear of being called names for speaking out. The proverbial closed doors have been brought to tv screens, that's a problem!
AlphDoti
#136 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:26:09 AM
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I believe we must learn something from these challenges facing us. I agree with conclusions by @kysse and @nabwire. Let me also say something about this issue.

How does one become heterozexual? What drives the attraction of a man to a woman? And how does one become homosexual? What drives him from the inside?

It all boils down to how the brain has been wired.
Just as a China man prefers to eat Chinese food, so is an African man who prefers his nyam-chom. Just as kina @Mc prefers his brown bottle, so is @Alphdoti's and @guka's and their uji. Something inside them creates this urge, because of what the brain is used to. My eating uji is not inherent in me, so is @hamburger's eating ham. No, I learnt it and he learnt it. The same way for sexual orientation.

Let us look at the heterosexual
while growing up, they saw and heard about father and mother. The boys were told stories about girls. Stories about their breasts and hips, how soft and tender they are. They heard what adults do when they grow up. They started pcturing this. And luckily, they grew up in a good environment where they were not exposed to sexual acts at childhood. So their genitals still undeveloped were protected and remained innocent. So only the brains were developing and getting wired to know that it's mum and dad who lie down together. Then as they grew up, they saw bull and cow mating, they saw dog and bitch mating, they saw male bird and female bird nesting.... and the wiring in the brain became emphasized.

So in their teens and adulthood, luckily, they started experiencing with the opposite sex. And when they tried with their gentials, they found something pleasurable, and alas there you go, they found their preferences.

Now the opposite happened with the homos
What they learnt while growing up, eventually wired their brais that way. They probably grew up with wrong exposure. Mostly through their brothers or sisters, while sleeping together when young. They started experimenting with their genitals. INnocent children. Boys with boys, girls with girls.
So while young, or even to their teens, they found out something pleasurable. And this is how the brain became wired, and developed its homosexual preferences. The boy started enjoying the pleasure found sleeping with another boy. The girl started enjoying the pleasure fondling with another girl.

You people in Wazua are intelligent, you know and I know habits develop. And from habit develops into character and character into personality.
AlphDoti
#137 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:55:17 AM
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And for the polygamy or monogamy
You know and I know man and woman are not same. Not same physically, emotionaly, brainwise, hormonically etc. One gets pregant, the other does not, one breastfeeds, the other cannot, one mensurates, the other does not... Hormonically, the man has 20 times more testosterone than the woman. It's this hormone that makes them different. It's this hormone that makes man more aggreesive, grow beard, grow bigger muscle, and even have more sexual urge. It is this hormone that makes the man to want to have sex everyday. BUT! Not all men are the same. One man can have more testosterone than another. So the former's sexual needs are different from the later's. Now here is the problem, while one man with very low testosterone does not even want any woman, another man with moderate testosterone is satsified with one woman, but another man with so much testosterone is not satsified with one woman and wants more women. So what to do? Some people have grown up being told marrying more than one woman is evil, it is cheating its blah blah. So if this person happens to have so much testosterone boiling in his blood, wht will he do when he's not allowed to legally marry more than one woman? He will resort to sleepig eith mistresses or prostitutes. SO they lie to themselves. nad the women in their lives lie to themselves. Some people grew up knowing marrying is good thing, and you can marry having met the conditions required, and also having met some further conditions, you can marry more than one woman and be faitherful and resposnsible for them. But this does not mean everybody must have more women. Many don't want more women. In fact wordly statistics say only 2% of all Muslims have more than one wife, 98% of married have only one wife. But this is a solution to those who may want, and also a solution to excess women.

I said yesterday that statistics tells us there are more women in the world than men.
In America alone there are 7.8 milion female more than male.
In UK there are 4 milion female more than male.
In germany there are 5 milion female more than male.
In Russia there are 9 milion female more than male.
The Creator alone knows how many female more than male in the world.

Hypothetically, suppose your sister happens to live in US, and the market is saturated. Every man has found a female for himself, yet there will be 7.8 milion female who will not find life partners. Now the only option remaining for these females who have got no life partners, is they either marry a man who already has a wife or become public property.

Also statistics say on average, a person has 8 different sexual partners before he settles down with one. And also in marriage misstresses are common, you can have 10, 20, 30 no problem, 100 also. The law will not say anything. But if you marry more than one wife, that thing does not go down the throat, why?

With missresses, the woman does not get rights, she is degraded, she is not honoured. But when you have a second wife, the woman get equal rights, she has a honour, she has respect.

However
Nobody is saying 4 wives is the best. Marrying only one is good. But not necessarilly best. It depends.
Impunity
#138 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 10:58:09 AM
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githundi wrote:
I usually pity women who say they cannot be married as second wives while they are dating married men or are in their twilight years as singles.
Why can't they understand the simple fact there are not enough men for each of them?
A problem made worse by these gay people.



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Impunity
#139 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:00:24 AM
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AlphDoti wrote:
And for the polygamy or monogamy
You know and I know man and woman are not same. Not same physically, emotionaly, brainwise, hormonically etc.



Hapo the metro-sexuals will not take you lightly, they will thwack you soon.
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AlphDoti
#140 Posted : Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:27:00 AM
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Impunity wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
And for the polygamy or monogamy
You know and I know man and woman are not same. Not same physically, emotionaly, brainwise, hormonically etc.

Hapo the metro-sexuals will not take you lightly, they will thwack you soon.

Science tell us ladies brains are more advanced and complex. But male brains are better suited for some things and female brains are more suited for some things. Different skills.
@impunity this is what I meant, this funny analogy


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