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He realized helping leaders secure political positions is in vain. Once the people are in power they forget you and start behaving like Kiir and Machar ...... you are left in limb to take care of self  Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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The story of 'talk shop' is not so well considered. Wazua is a place of play and exploration not implementation of policy. So expecting it to be otherwise is throwing a fallacy to protect your ego. Otherwise it's good @masukuma is distancing himself from @tycho because he's definitely not so well regarded by the former...
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tycho wrote:The story of 'talk shop' is not so well considered. Wazua is a place of play and exploration not implementation of policy. So expecting it to be otherwise is throwing a fallacy to protect your ego. Otherwise it's good @masukuma is distancing himself from @tycho because he's definitely not so well regarded by the former... While Trump is a man considered 'A man you can bait with a tweet' - @Tycho is one that easily baited by 2 words. 'B.S' and 'Talk Shop'.  All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Either baited or he feeds on such prompts from an easy and sweet target. Gives him a sadistic tick I should say.
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masukuma wrote:Like all ratios GDP is dependent on two things - the numerator and the denominator. 10% growth from of 1 shilling is 1.10 shillings. 10% of 1 trillion shillings is an additional 100 billion! you can increase a ratio by tweaking either in the case of SS - the denominator is so small that any movement on the numerator is profound.
Secondly people don't vote for independence so that they can "develop" - they vote for independence so that they can control their destiny! "development" is not the all and all of of human existence. "development" is a by-product. People keep on asking why people in libya went through the arab spring and they were "developed". it's because they had expression issues. humans don't exist for the sake of "development".
But you are right in one way - time is a cruel master - it waits for no man and since we have all swallowed the narrative of a never ending "race" to unknown destination (possibly resulting from our nature to try and dominate on others). each nation state is in competition with the other for top dog. And in that race S.S. is behind. We would like to think that we are on one track running but the reality is -we are not! not even within the same nation. Since utajiri wako hunisaidii unless i am somehow connected to you. Anyway - let's continue with the endless dictates on how to bell that cat. If that their "destiny" does not include any form of "development" then what were their reasons they did not want to be with the north, who denied them "development"?
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[quote=kimanimsc]Tonight at #JKL is Pres. Kiir. https://twitter.com/Koin...atus/760773959453405184[/quote] Kiir is visibly dumb, expect questions from JK and monologues from Kiir. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:Like all ratios GDP is dependent on two things - the numerator and the denominator. 10% growth from of 1 shilling is 1.10 shillings. 10% of 1 trillion shillings is an additional 100 billion! you can increase a ratio by tweaking either in the case of SS - the denominator is so small that any movement on the numerator is profound.
Secondly people don't vote for independence so that they can "develop" - they vote for independence so that they can control their destiny! "development" is not the all and all of of human existence. "development" is a by-product. People keep on asking why people in libya went through the arab spring and they were "developed". it's because they had expression issues. humans don't exist for the sake of "development".
But you are right in one way - time is a cruel master - it waits for no man and since we have all swallowed the narrative of a never ending "race" to unknown destination (possibly resulting from our nature to try and dominate on others). each nation state is in competition with the other for top dog. And in that race S.S. is behind. We would like to think that we are on one track running but the reality is -we are not! not even within the same nation. Since utajiri wako hunisaidii unless i am somehow connected to you. Anyway - let's continue with the endless dictates on how to bell that cat. If that their "destiny" does not include any form of "development" then what were their reasons they did not want to be with the north, who denied them "development"? it's all about self-determination... that's the goal. Everything you think is the goal is a by-product i.e. development, modernity e.t.c. are fruits of that. <--- that is one side of the coin. But sometimes chaos results from self-determination. (I am not sure about the stats but majority of the states on this planet have engaged in civil war ) <--- it's the other side of that coin All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Very interesting interview. War is very bad, but selfish interests abound  In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Angelica _ann wrote:Very interesting interview. War is very bad, but selfish interests abound Let's start with our theories in how these people should jikuwamua. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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I watched the interview last night on JKL. Kiir is actually a gentleman. A good man with moral values. Machar has betrayed the people of S. Sudan oft times and even God will not allow him to be president of S.Sudan. The interview got emotional at some point when Jeff asked H.E. Kiir if he misses late Garang....a tear shed here and there Dumb money becomes dumb only when it listens to smart money
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masukuma wrote:
Let's start with our theories in how these people should jikuwamua.
We are living in the GOLDEN AGES of human existence. Surely you do not want this goldeness to be blighted by such experiences. All third parties are asking is for the concerned party (most likely Machar) to stop his misguided excitement and to get to providing services for their people.
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Fyatu wrote:I watched the interview last night on JKL. Kiir is actually a gentleman. A good man with moral values. Machar has betrayed the people of S. Sudan oft times and even God will not allow him to be president of S.Sudan. The interview got emotional at some point when Jeff asked H.E. Kiir if he misses late Garang....a tear shed here and there You can vouch for his moral standing just from an interview? Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
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Anti_Burglar wrote:masukuma wrote:
Let's start with our theories in how these people should jikuwamua.
We are living in the GOLDEN AGES of human existence. Surely you do not want this goldeness to be blighted by such experiences. All third parties are asking is for the concerned party (most likely Machar) to stop his misguided excitement and to get to providing services for their people. it's easy to deduce and say that Machar is the belligerent in this conflict but it's not a straight forward. We are tempted to think that Kiir and Machar are the only players - we are wrong. Ask yourself - if you were Machar, would you go into the lion's den and when surrounded by Kiir's men - have your people zua rabsha outside? unlikely... just because you have a pistol does not mean you will come out of it alive. Kiir and Machar were blindsided by the latest drama. Some are shadowy in the background i.e. one Paul Malong who I will kill Salva Kiir if sacked, These people have usurped power from the traditional placeholders until it's now murky. They are the reason the peace process too as long as it too to sign. There is a 3rd force - SSLA formed after Riek fired Gadet. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Kiir always looks weak, Machar is just greedy. SS needs a real coup and dictator to bring warring/wrangling factions into line. Bring loyalty also from Governors of each state. ........ My keyboard warrior solution to SS problems. Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Kasin wants Machar out. Quote:Secretary of State John Kerry said in Nairobi on August 22 that “it’s quite clear that legally, under the agreement, there is allowance for the replacement, in a transition of personnel, and that has been effected with the appointment of a new vice president.”
The US position was reaffirmed on Thursday by State Department spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau.
“The peace agreement contains procedures and requirements that govern transitions and changes within the transitional government,” Ms Trudeau said at a press briefing in Washington.
“Specifically, the agreement provides the top leadership of the armed opposition the power to nominate a new first vice president if that position is vacant.” "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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BAN KI-MOON sacks Kenyan UNMISS force commander, Lt-Gen Johnson Ondieki over chaotic and ineffective response to violence in Juba. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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