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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:I wonder how Kopa Chapaa has fared over the last 6 months...
I learnt about it when mshwari was launched - 6 months later... Unless the product is not all that to require a hyping campaign.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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InnovateGuy wrote:Faulu hopes to pull an "Apple" on Safaricom  Then they've got it upside down. If no copyright or patent exists, the case is DoA. If they have the above, they should have waited to see how successful it gets. This way they'd get a bigger damages cheque.
The more I look at the lawsuit timing, the more it strikes me as a DoA - no show - nothing to see here.$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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hisah wrote:InnovateGuy wrote:Faulu hopes to pull an "Apple" on Safaricom Then they've got it upside down. If no copyright or patent exists, the case is DoA. If they have the above, they should have waited to see how successful it gets. This way they'd get a bigger damages cheque.
The more I look at the lawsuit timing, the more it strikes me as a DoA - no show - nothing to see here. From the article, which as usual doesn't provide much, they are seeing for breach of NDA. NDA's usually have a provision for injunctive remedy for the aggrieved party. If it was well drawn and Safcom signed it then It's a big problem for them and they better settle - fast. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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hisah wrote:youcan'tstopusnow wrote:I wonder how Kopa Chapaa has fared over the last 6 months...
I learnt about it when mshwari was launched - 6 months later... Unless the product is not all that to require a hyping campaign. It was discussed in Wazua. Even the alleged 'theft' by Safaricom. Read through the posts. http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=18427
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=18804
My bet is that M-Shwari will fare better just because it will thrive on the oomph of Safaricom. Kenyans love the green monster, don't we? GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:hisah wrote:youcan'tstopusnow wrote:I wonder how Kopa Chapaa has fared over the last 6 months...
I learnt about it when mshwari was launched - 6 months later... Unless the product is not all that to require a hyping campaign. It was discussed in Wazua. Even the alleged 'theft' by Safaricom. Read through the posts. http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=18427
http://www.wazua.co.ke/f...spx?g=posts&t=18804
My bet is that M-Shwari will fare better just because it will thrive on the oomph of Safaricom. Kenyans love the green monster, don't we? The fact that wazua discussion about Kopa Chapaa were poor (very minimal) compared to Mshwari's discussion says a lot about the marketing of the Kopa Chapaa product. It is still invisible. I still don't get what has been copied. In any case Airtel money, Orange money, Yu money all have the same concepts as Mpesa. So should mpesa bank sue them?$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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BTW, how is m-shwari fairing? Any borrower in wazua? @hisah, There is something about safaricom and kenyans that 100 PhD theses can be done and still not exhaust all relations. Question, if the NDA stated that no party (safcom nor faulu) should use the idea without the other 'benefiting', then why did they (faulu) launch it with airtel? Is faulu trying to market KopaChapaa through this way? Is airtel afraid safcom is holding on their customers through value added services instead of offering 'free' bogus services? THE DAY ANYOTHER TELCO OFFERS AFFORDABLE DATA, IS THE DAY I WILL VUKA/HAMA. Otherwise, free sms, voice or money transfer is not my thing. DATA Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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dunkang wrote:BTW, how is m-shwari fairing? Any borrower in wazua?
@hisah, There is something about safaricom and kenyans that 100 PhD theses can be done and still not exhaust all relations.
Question, if the NDA stated that no party (safcom nor faulu) should use the idea without the other 'benefiting', then why did they (faulu) launch it with airtel?
Is faulu trying to market KopaChapaa through this way?
Is airtel afraid safcom is holding on their customers through value added services instead of offering 'free' bogus services?
THE DAY ANYOTHER TELCO OFFERS AFFORDABLE DATA, IS THE DAY I WILL VUKA/HAMA.
Otherwise, free sms, voice or money transfer is not my thing. DATA Since Kopa Chapaa is already public long before Mshwari, that proves the NDA is bogus. That's why I said there's no case here!$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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dunkang wrote:BTW, how is m-shwari fairing? Any borrower in wazua?
@hisah, There is something about safaricom and kenyans that 100 PhD theses can be done and still not exhaust all relations.
Question, if the NDA stated that no party (safcom nor faulu) should use the idea without the other 'benefiting', then why did they (faulu) launch it with airtel?
Is faulu trying to market KopaChapaa through this way?
Is airtel afraid safcom is holding on their customers through value added services instead of offering 'free' bogus services?
THE DAY ANYOTHER TELCO OFFERS AFFORDABLE DATA, IS THE DAY I WILL VUKA/HAMA.
Otherwise, free sms, voice or money transfer is not my thing. DATA Depends on the NDA. The NDA would for example stop a party (say Safaricom) from using an idea even if it was made public by a third party. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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hisah wrote:dunkang wrote:BTW, how is m-shwari fairing? Any borrower in wazua?
@hisah, There is something about safaricom and kenyans that 100 PhD theses can be done and still not exhaust all relations.
Question, if the NDA stated that no party (safcom nor faulu) should use the idea without the other 'benefiting', then why did they (faulu) launch it with airtel?
Is faulu trying to market KopaChapaa through this way?
Is airtel afraid safcom is holding on their customers through value added services instead of offering 'free' bogus services?
THE DAY ANYOTHER TELCO OFFERS AFFORDABLE DATA, IS THE DAY I WILL VUKA/HAMA.
Otherwise, free sms, voice or money transfer is not my thing. DATA Since Kopa Chapaa is already public long before Mshwari, that proves the NDA is bogus. That's why I said there's no case here! I don't think it has anything to do with affordability. It's just being "hooked up" The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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Safaricom Says It Followed Legal ProcessAs you are aware, Safaricom Ltd has had a strong focus on Financial Inclusivity since 2007, when it launched M-Pesa. The commitment has been sustained through relevant enhancements informed by proactive research into user habits, dynamic customer needs and emerging trends, relating to the use of M-Pesa and other mobile finance solutions. While this matter is already in court and is therefore subject to sub judice rules, Safaricom Ltd seeks to clarify that M-Shwari is a proprietary product of Safaricom Limited which is the successful result of a 2-year product development process. ..this law suit is tainted with malice because it is founded on untrue allegations.http://allafrica.com/stories/201212130950.html
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