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Apostle James Maina Ng'ang'a, allegedly drunk and violent
Kaigangio
#131 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 8:53:39 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


STUPID!!!

The idiot should rot in jail for causing death while driving while drunk and uninsured.

He has hired Cliff Ombeta as his lawyer so yes that should tell you something.

If you dint know this is what section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya.

Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being treated like murder.
Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten years in jail or both.

The resident magistrate handling this case will be close to kshs 10million richer by the time Ng'ang'a is exonorated from any wrong doing and acquited , after 10 years…very reformed judiciary!
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
harrydre
#132 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:18:57 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


STUPID!!!

The idiot should rot in jail for causing death while driving while drunk and uninsured.

He has hired Cliff Ombeta as his lawyer so yes that should tell you something.

If you dint know this is what section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya.

Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being treated like murder.
Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten years in jail or both.

The resident magistrate handling this case will be close to kshs 10million richer by the time Ng'ang'a is exonorated from any wrong doing and acquited , after 10 years…very reformed judiciary!


that's exactly what I am talking about...he might not even spend a month in jail....does the family have a money to hire the best lawyer in town? hiyo pesa ya magistrate, lawyer, few busy bodies here and there should have gone straight to the family at least assist in raising the shudrens. hii ni Kenya bwana Murchr
i.am.back!!!!
Shak
#133 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 9:25:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/22/2009
Posts: 2,449
Location: Africa
harrydre wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


STUPID!!!

The idiot should rot in jail for causing death while driving while drunk and uninsured.

He has hired Cliff Ombeta as his lawyer so yes that should tell you something.

If you dint know this is what section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya.

Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being treated like murder.
Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten years in jail or both.

The resident magistrate handling this case will be close to kshs 10million richer by the time Ng'ang'a is exonorated from any wrong doing and acquited , after 10 years…very reformed judiciary!


that's exactly what I am talking about...he might not even spend a month in jail....does the family have a money to hire the best lawyer in town? hiyo pesa ya magistrate, lawyer, few busy bodies here and there should have gone straight to the family at least assist in raising the shudrens. hii ni Kenya bwana Murchr

Change has to start from somewhere. This notion of accepting and moving on is one the saddest things in Kenya right now
murchr
#134 Posted : Wednesday, August 19, 2015 10:08:32 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
harrydre wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


STUPID!!!

The idiot should rot in jail for causing death while driving while drunk and uninsured.

He has hired Cliff Ombeta as his lawyer so yes that should tell you something.

If you dint know this is what section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya.

Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being treated like murder.
Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten years in jail or both.

The resident magistrate handling this case will be close to kshs 10million richer by the time Ng'ang'a is exonorated from any wrong doing and acquited , after 10 years…very reformed judiciary!


that's exactly what I am talking about...he might not even spend a month in jail....does the family have a money to hire the best lawyer in town? hiyo pesa ya magistrate, lawyer, few busy bodies here and there should have gone straight to the family at least assist in raising the shudrens. hii ni Kenya bwana Murchr


Its this kind of FOOLISHNESS that has got Kenya where it is in the first place. Impunity everywhere then we blame politicians. Let that judge get that 10trillion if he wants to, he might just be the next person that Ng'ang'a kills on the next accident. I wonder if you'd be of the same opinion if this was Dr. Owuor. Nonsense!!
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Kaigangio
#135 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:08:03 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/27/2007
Posts: 2,768
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


STUPID!!!

The idiot should rot in jail for causing death while driving while drunk and uninsured.

He has hired Cliff Ombeta as his lawyer so yes that should tell you something.

If you dint know this is what section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya.

Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being treated like murder.
Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten years in jail or both.

The resident magistrate handling this case will be close to kshs 10million richer by the time Ng'ang'a is exonorated from any wrong doing and acquited , after 10 years…very reformed judiciary!


that's exactly what I am talking about...he might not even spend a month in jail....does the family have a money to hire the best lawyer in town? hiyo pesa ya magistrate, lawyer, few busy bodies here and there should have gone straight to the family at least assist in raising the shudrens. hii ni Kenya bwana Murchr


Its this kind of FOOLISHNESS that has got Kenya where it is in the first place. Impunity everywhere then we blame politicians. Let that judge get that 10trillion if he wants to, he might just be the next person that Ng'ang'a kills on the next accident. I wonder if you'd be of the same opinion if this was Dr. Owuor. Nonsense!!


You see murchr an old adage "Ciathua ndongoria itikinyagira nyeki". I don't know a lot of english to translate but I am inviting @ guka to do that for you. may be you might start seeing things in a different dimension.
Some things or issues like these goes beyond tribal where a criminal offence has been committed. A corrupt judge will not see crime or evidence from whoever, but MONEY.
Lastly, it is not that foolishness that you want us to believe that has gotten us to where we are, but rather our failure to act on what we have been seeing or taken through...
...And murchr, let us be real currently not hypothetical.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
murchr
#136 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 12:29:43 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


STUPID!!!

The idiot should rot in jail for causing death while driving while drunk and uninsured.

He has hired Cliff Ombeta as his lawyer so yes that should tell you something.

If you dint know this is what section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya.

Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being treated like murder.
Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten years in jail or both.

The resident magistrate handling this case will be close to kshs 10million richer by the time Ng'ang'a is exonorated from any wrong doing and acquited , after 10 years…very reformed judiciary!


that's exactly what I am talking about...he might not even spend a month in jail....does the family have a money to hire the best lawyer in town? hiyo pesa ya magistrate, lawyer, few busy bodies here and there should have gone straight to the family at least assist in raising the shudrens. hii ni Kenya bwana Murchr


Its this kind of FOOLISHNESS that has got Kenya where it is in the first place. Impunity everywhere then we blame politicians. Let that judge get that 10trillion if he wants to, he might just be the next person that Ng'ang'a kills on the next accident. I wonder if you'd be of the same opinion if this was Dr. Owuor. Nonsense!!


You see murchr an old adage "Ciathua ndongoria itikinyagira nyeki". I don't know a lot of english to translate but I am inviting @ guka to do that for you. may be you might start seeing things in a different dimension.
Some things or issues like these goes beyond tribal where a criminal offence has been committed. A corrupt judge will not see crime or evidence from whoever, but MONEY.
Lastly, it is not that foolishness that you want us to believe that has gotten us to where we are, but rather our failure to act on what we have been seeing or taken through...
...And murchr, let us be real currently not hypothetical.


Clearly foolishness has made you helpless such that you cannot see beyond your nose. This woman who was killed was not the first, and its likely she will not be the last if this criminal is let go. An American would tell you "SOMETHING GOTTA GIVE" Just as an elastic band...you cant stretch it endlessly it has to snap. Let that corrupt judge take up that bribe well and good the bitch called Karma lives. Again, that judge might just be one Justice Ombija and this man is found guilty and get locked up, the fact is, if that happens then we'll have a precedent and hope. If not, its still ok, we can wait till he kills more with his vyumas. Who knows one day he might just get you in your Nissan March and take you out.

As for the nonsense that the family should take the money and walk...that's just hogwash. Will that money bring back the wife, mother, daughter? There's more to life than paper people. Work hard and get more of it and you'll see understand that. Shida ni mbaya kweli
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
heri
#137 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 8:27:22 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 9/14/2011
Posts: 869
Location: nairobi
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


i thought this is a case of The State Vs Pastor Nganga? can we have out of court settlement legally?
mkeiy
#138 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 10:39:52 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 1/27/2012
Posts: 851
Location: Nairobi
heri wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


i thought this is a case of The State Vs Pastor Nganga? can we have out of court settlement legally?



@ harrydre and Cord think on the same wave length.

Quite remarkable.
newfarer
#139 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:15:46 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/19/2010
Posts: 3,505
Location: Uganda
Shak wrote:
harrydre wrote:
Kaigangio wrote:
murchr wrote:
harrydre wrote:
hii familia iache ujinga. whether Ng'ang'a is hanged or jailed for life will not bring their mother back, what they should do is get an out of court deal with Ng'ang'a say 50 million to care for the kids left behind.

Yes he will be arrested today, taken to court and in few days he will be out, then what?


STUPID!!!

The idiot should rot in jail for causing death while driving while drunk and uninsured.

He has hired Cliff Ombeta as his lawyer so yes that should tell you something.

If you dint know this is what section 12 of Cap 403 of the laws of Kenya.

Careless driving causing death: Life Imprisonment. This is being treated like murder.
Driving under influence of alcohol: A fine of Ksh 500, 000 or ten years in jail or both.

The resident magistrate handling this case will be close to kshs 10million richer by the time Ng'ang'a is exonorated from any wrong doing and acquited , after 10 years…very reformed judiciary!


that's exactly what I am talking about...he might not even spend a month in jail....does the family have a money to hire the best lawyer in town? hiyo pesa ya magistrate, lawyer, few busy bodies here and there should have gone straight to the family at least assist in raising the shudrens. hii ni Kenya bwana Murchr

Change has to start from somewhere. This notion of accepting and moving on is one the saddest things in Kenya right now



I support muchr its good to try, money is not everything, see where dubai bank has left mawinder?
punda amecheka
harrydre
#140 Posted : Thursday, August 20, 2015 3:51:48 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/10/2008
Posts: 9,131
Location: Kanjo
lets revisit in few days.
i.am.back!!!!
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