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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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AlphDoti wrote:aemathenge wrote:kaka2za wrote:I am not worried about the present because the damage is already done
During the KANU era, we had hope in the opposition that had people like Kibaki, RAO, Wamalwa, etc
In contrast, the choices now are Gideon, Ruto, Mdvd, and Watermelon. There is no hope, no future for our beloved country. Tried and tested. His Excellency Kibutha Kibwana. His Excellency Alfred Mutua. Her Excellency Charity Ngiru. Hon. Muhisa Kitui. His Excellency Oparanya. I could go on all day. Supposing DP Ruto decided to pick any one of the above and declared him or her tosha, what would your opinion change? As the "Wanjinga Nyinyi" Kid eloquently pointed out, it is no longer about the candidates but it boils down to the voters collectively. If you, and your generation, can only see Gideon, Ruto, Mdvd, and Watermelon, then "Houston, we have a problem." Just a thought. Just a thought. I agree with you! I was just shaking my head realizing people do not see any of the good guys anymore! Plus the youth of today do not even know where we came from, the Nyayo era, so they see WSR and the clique as only options... We are cooked! We lost the plot when we handed power back to KANU in 2013. The progressive forces have been neutered. Sad but true. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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kaka2za wrote:AlphDoti wrote:aemathenge wrote:kaka2za wrote:I am not worried about the present because the damage is already done
During the KANU era, we had hope in the opposition that had people like Kibaki, RAO, Wamalwa, etc
In contrast, the choices now are Gideon, Ruto, Mdvd, and Watermelon. There is no hope, no future for our beloved country. Tried and tested. His Excellency Kibutha Kibwana. His Excellency Alfred Mutua. Her Excellency Charity Ngiru. Hon. Muhisa Kitui. His Excellency Oparanya. I could go on all day. Supposing DP Ruto decided to pick any one of the above and declared him or her tosha, what would your opinion change? As the "Wanjinga Nyinyi" Kid eloquently pointed out, it is no longer about the candidates but it boils down to the voters collectively. If you, and your generation, can only see Gideon, Ruto, Mdvd, and Watermelon, then "Houston, we have a problem." Just a thought. Just a thought. I agree with you! I was just shaking my head realizing people do not see any of the good guys anymore! Plus the youth of today do not even know where we came from, the Nyayo era, so they see WSR and the clique as only options... We are cooked! We lost the plot when we handed power back to KANU in 2013. The progressive forces have been neutered. Sad but true. 2013 was a big shame! We squandered the progress we made in 2002! Thanks to re-emergence of tribal alignment!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/17/2009 Posts: 2,040 Location: GA
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Hapa is where the rubber will meet the road.I would like to see Tingas reaction at this point "Murathe said there are several options being laid out for 2022 to dilute perceived support of Ruto in Mt Kenya region. He said Jubilee entering into coalitions with like-minded parties and individuals was one of them “Sponsoring another Jubilee contestant is an option. And Kenyans should not buy the lie that the country is not ready for another Mt Kenya president...We can sponsor yet another one and sell him all the way to the ballot. Uniting Kenya does not mean excluding any tribe. And that is how we will defeat Ruto,” Murathe said. https://standardmedia.co...ops-plot-to-impeach-ruto
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/15/2010 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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Everyone is now talking about Rasputin and Tsar, so, I googled to know who the hell were these fellows. Below is an excerpt of what I got, "During his reign the Russian Empire fell from one of the foremost great powers of the world to economic and military collapse. He was reviled by Soviet historians as a weak and incompetent leader whose decisions led to military defeats and the deaths of millions of his subjects".
I decoded the above message as cheeky Jimmy-Orengo warning to Tsar "Metameta-Wamashirt" that his time is over. If anyone remember what happened in late 2002 when NDP walked out of dying KANU and who led the walkout, then it will not be a surprise if history repeat itself. ....He who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion..
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/1/2019 Posts: 119
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I was unfortunate enough to watch the debate/proceedings of Kindiki's ouster.
This is what i noted:
Susan Kihika is outright dumb.She cannot debate. She has zero wits.
Parliament/Senate is a house of debate and an Mp/Senator should be able to articulate issues and drive points in a fluid manner. I'm sorry but the Kenyan senate cannot have such members more so in leadership roles. I have nothing personal against her but sorry she is too mediocre. Nakuru deserves better. I liked the way Kericho senator and his Laikipia counterpart presented their opposing views. Offcourse, Jimmy being the veteran he is and his Rasputin analogy made-up for the embarrassing shows by Kihika, and others like Member for Nyeri and Machakos. Prof. Sam Ongeri (Member for Kisii) is a very serious man and very wise.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/10/2010 Posts: 2,264
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Receptor wrote:I was unfortunate enough to watch the debate/proceedings of Kindiki's ouster.
This is what i noted:
Susan Kihika is outright dumb.She cannot debate. She has zero wits.
Parliament/Senate is a house of debate and an Mp/Senator should be able to articulate issues and drive points in a fluid manner. I'm sorry but the Kenyan senate cannot have such members more so in leadership roles. I have nothing personal against her but sorry she is too mediocre. Nakuru deserves better. I liked the way Kericho senator and his Laikipia counterpart presented their opposing views. Offcourse, Jimmy being the veteran he is and his Rasputin analogy made-up for the embarrassing shows by Kihika, and others like Member for Nyeri and Machakos. Prof. Sam Ongeri (Member for Kisii) is a very serious man and very wise. First let us agree that no amount of debate could have saved kindiki. We should also hope to elect leaders with a conscience rather than eloquent leaders. There are briliant people who it's a bit hard to articulate their conscience and kihika is not one of them. It was very clear to hear her thoughts and feelings. Let's not judge anybody by the ability to master a foreign longuage. Politics is just things to keep the people divided and foolish and put your trust in men and none of them can do nothing for you...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Receptor wrote:I was unfortunate enough to watch the debate/proceedings of Kindiki's ouster.
This is what i noted:
Susan Kihika is outright dumb.She cannot debate. She has zero wits.
Parliament/Senate is a house of debate and an Mp/Senator should be able to articulate issues and drive points in a fluid manner. I'm sorry but the Kenyan senate cannot have such members more so in leadership roles. I have nothing personal against her but sorry she is too mediocre. Nakuru deserves better. I liked the way Kericho senator and his Laikipia counterpart presented their opposing views. Offcourse, Jimmy being the veteran he is and his Rasputin analogy made-up for the embarrassing shows by Kihika, and others like Member for Nyeri and Machakos. Prof. Sam Ongeri (Member for Kisii) is a very serious man and very wise. Susan is a chip of the old block. She is a beautiful version of Kihika Kimani. Push her a little more and I think she can spit out expletives in her local language that start with letter 'K' Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/21/2009 Posts: 573
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kaka2za wrote:Receptor wrote:I was unfortunate enough to watch the debate/proceedings of Kindiki's ouster.
This is what i noted:
Susan Kihika is outright dumb.She cannot debate. She has zero wits.
Parliament/Senate is a house of debate and an Mp/Senator should be able to articulate issues and drive points in a fluid manner. I'm sorry but the Kenyan senate cannot have such members more so in leadership roles. I have nothing personal against her but sorry she is too mediocre. Nakuru deserves better. I liked the way Kericho senator and his Laikipia counterpart presented their opposing views. Offcourse, Jimmy being the veteran he is and his Rasputin analogy made-up for the embarrassing shows by Kihika, and others like Member for Nyeri and Machakos. Prof. Sam Ongeri (Member for Kisii) is a very serious man and very wise. Susan is a chip of the old block. She is a beautiful version of Kihika Kimani. Push her a little more and I think she can spit out expletives in her local language that start with letter 'K' She most likely returned in Kenya to join politics.Guess in the next vetting we should have people with a bit of local hustling.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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Flashback. Uhuru's beliefs have not changed. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/10/2015 Posts: 961 Location: Kenya
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The internet never forgets. Kindiki earlier supported the ouster of those who defied uhuru. https://twitter.com/Anto...atus/1264087829652668416Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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