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VituVingiSana
#1321 Posted : Thursday, June 11, 2015 10:53:29 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
Dear investors, In light of the scandals at Britam over the last one year, Is HFCK still safe as an investment. IF the father is dirty, can the child be clean?

Im undecided on the cleanliness of HFCK, especially given that britam has +40% shareholding now. But another part of me tells me there should be no problem
HFCK comes under the CBK [its regulator] which is far more involved in the banks audits than the IRA. The CBK doesn't want banks to close down [see how its trying to stave off a collapse of Dubai Bank] so it would come in & force HFCK to clean up the books.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Aguytrying
#1322 Posted : Friday, June 12, 2015 7:07:21 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Aguytrying wrote:
Dear investors, In light of the scandals at Britam over the last one year, Is HFCK still safe as an investment. IF the father is dirty, can the child be clean?

Im undecided on the cleanliness of HFCK, especially given that britam has +40% shareholding now. But another part of me tells me there should be no problem
HFCK comes under the CBK [its regulator] which is far more involved in the banks audits than the IRA. The CBK doesn't want banks to close down [see how its trying to stave off a collapse of Dubai Bank] so it would come in & force HFCK to clean up the books.


thanks
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The optimist
#1323 Posted : Friday, June 19, 2015 2:48:36 PM
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instinct
#1324 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 2:34:41 AM
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What became of the 700m court award against hf? They dint even confirm or deny it. Did they appeal?
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Othelo
#1325 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:59:19 AM
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The optimist wrote:
Now at 27.25/-

26.75 printed, na bado!!!

Will be most affected with this interest rate hikes among financial institutions!!! Direct HIT!

Let us wait and see whether Ireri will think outside the mbox!!!
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hisah
#1326 Posted : Thursday, July 16, 2015 11:45:32 AM
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Comparison between HFCK and HAFR on a 3yr timeframe vs NSE20. The verdict is very clear! Meaning if one had invested in HF in the 3yr time frame they'd still be in the green while the opposite for HAFR. If one had invested in NSE20 as index fund the HF investor would still be above that investor while the index investor would still be way above the HAFR investor.

Verdict: Not only does HAFR fair badly vs HF but also against the index (NSE20). HAFR has been clobbered by the market even during the bullish period Sad And now both HF and HAFR face a CB that has decided to chop off liquidity from the market. What will happen to HAFR Pray
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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S.Mutaga III
#1327 Posted : Thursday, July 16, 2015 12:17:11 PM
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hisah wrote:


Comparison between HFCK and HAFR on a 3yr timeframe vs NSE20. The verdict is very clear! Meaning if one had invested in HF in the 3yr time frame they'd still be in the green while the opposite for HAFR. If one had invested in NSE20 as index fund the HF investor would still be above that investor while the index investor would still be way above the HAFR investor.

Verdict: Not only does HAFR fair badly vs HF but also against the index (NSE20). HAFR has been clobbered by the market even during the bullish period Sad And now both HF and HAFR face a CB that has decided to chop off liquidity from the market. What will happen to HAFR Pray

Nice charts. I wonder what will happen with the 700 million case HFCK have. That is about a year's worth of profit in one claim. I guess that is the reason of the nosedive in the share. I will be a collector at below 18 because of the rights issue cash in the mix
Link: http://www.businessdaily...8/-/qkt6hfz/-/index.html
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Aguytrying
#1328 Posted : Thursday, July 16, 2015 2:48:01 PM
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@mutaga. Don't disembark too early like last time. My collection range for this is 15-20. But it looks like we are almost there.

Funny how hfck and Nic are both trading below rights price.

@hisah. If your extreme sendiments come to fruition it my be lightning striking twice here at 14-15
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The optimist
#1329 Posted : Thursday, July 16, 2015 7:35:42 PM
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Wonders never cease to happen. Its like the share was jinxed by the rights!
Just for the sake of it, what is the current PE after factoring in the rights.
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Pesa Nane
#1330 Posted : Friday, July 17, 2015 10:31:23 AM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:

hisah wrote:


Comparison between HFCK and HAFR on a 3yr timeframe vs NSE20. The verdict is very clear! Meaning if one had invested in HF in the 3yr time frame they'd still be in the green while the opposite for HAFR. If one had invested in NSE20 as index fund the HF investor would still be above that investor while the index investor would still be way above the HAFR investor.

Verdict: Not only does HAFR fair badly vs HF but also against the index (NSE20). HAFR has been clobbered by the market even during the bullish period Sad And now both HF and HAFR face a CB that has decided to chop off liquidity from the market. What will happen to HAFR

Nice charts. I wonder what will happen with the 700 million case HFCK have. That is about a year's worth of profit in one claim. I guess that is the reason of the nosedive in the share. I will be a collector at below 18 because of the rights issue cash in the mix
Link: http://www.businessdaily.../-/qkt6hfz/-/index.html





HF appealed. <<LINK>>
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