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PLAYING THE MARKET-A NEW YEAR RESOLUTION
the deal
#241 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:39:28 PM
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you have mastered the art of making money....woooow @qw watch and learn...
qw25041985
#242 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 10:44:13 PM
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The deal. U ar the one to watch and learn. The dude doesnt buy junk then sits bk and calls it contrarian investin likd u and the gang ..... Hahahaha .
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
guru267
#243 Posted : Thursday, August 05, 2010 11:42:50 PM
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@stocksmaster hakuna kitu kama hiyo.. You will get your odd lots in the rights issue and nothing more..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
tony stark
#244 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 9:20:52 AM
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When you started this thread in January I was impressed by the gamble of actively trading and to do it under public scrutiny. You have proved beyond that you can make and lose money in the "short" term trading and I commend you on your achievement.
Wazua and the former SK have an unsubstantiated effect on the market and i suspect the effect is high. I now wonder whether your skill at reading the market is the only factor at work here. I am trying to insinuate that the market reads wazua/stockmaster/VVS/mainat and this then sends the "wanjikus" to buoy specific counters.

None the less I commend you and the sober voices that contribute on this forum and for opening my eyes! Congratulation your experiment was a massive success!
VituVingiSana
#245 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 11:19:24 AM
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@SM - You will get your 10 shares 'odd lot' which also means you will be stuck with 10 shares all the time shud you choose to exercise the Rights...

On the other hand exercise the 10 & apply for many more...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
sparkly
#246 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 11:51:56 AM
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@sm i've been a critic of your strategy but am forced to eat my words, reluctantly. You have proven that concentration and momentum trading works. Waiting to see your next move.
Life is short. Live passionately.
komera
#247 Posted : Friday, August 06, 2010 12:51:19 PM
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wating for your next move SM, you have gotten yourself a number of followers, the way luoz biliv in Raila
youcan'tstopusnow
#248 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 2:30:52 PM
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It was great timing to sell stanchart. Been on a downward spiral ever since
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
mwenza
#249 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:29:24 PM
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This SM guy.................Is he a genius or merely lucky?
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
cnn
#250 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:30:57 PM
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what a question.
komera
#251 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:31:02 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow, and perfect time to get in for those who missed this train.
youcan'tstopusnow
#252 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:42:45 PM
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What if stocksmaster invests in stanchart again if it gets below 250?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
youcan'tstopusnow
#253 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 3:43:49 PM
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mwenza wrote:
This SM guy.................Is he a genius or merely lucky?

93 percent in 7 months just can't be luck
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
mwenza
#254 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:08:45 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwenza wrote:
This SM guy.................Is he a genius or merely lucky?

93 percent in 7 months just can't be luck



@youcant..............I have set aside some substantial bus fare so that whenever he boards the next bus, i will hold onto his coat tail and ensure we sit side by side. His alighting point will also be my destination.
IF YOU EXPECT ME TO POST ANYTHING POSITIVE ABOUT ASENO, YOU MAY AS WELL SIT ON A PIN
youcan'tstopusnow
#255 Posted : Tuesday, August 10, 2010 4:11:57 PM
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mwenza wrote:
@youcant..............I have set aside some substantial bus fare so that whenever he boards the next bus, i will hold onto his coat tail and ensure we sit side by side. His alighting point will also be my destination.

smile
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
stocksmaster
#256 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 10:49:11 PM
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Location: CENTRAL PROVINCE
ACTIVITY 10: PURCHASE OF 1900 STANCHART AT KSH 270

DATE OF ACTIVITY:11TH AUGUST 2010

COST OF ACTIVITY 10:KSH 270 X 1900 SHARES= KSH 513,000

ADD 2% TRANSACTION COSTS = KSH 10,200

TOTAL COST OF ACTIVITY 10 = KSH 523,200

CASH IN HAND AFTER ACTIVITY 9 = KSH 986,090
SHARES UNSOLD AFTER ACTIVITY 9 = 100 STANCHART

CURRENT PORTFOLIO POSITION:
CASH IN HAND AFTER ACTIVITY 10 = KSH 462,890
SHARES IN HAND AFTER ACTIVITY 10 = 1900 + 100
=2000 STANCHART SHARES

RATIONALE OF PURCHASE

After exiting the counter about five days ago, the share has experienced a substancial price decline. I still hold the opinion that the share at least should be trading at the Ksh 320 range post half year results/pre rights issue.

Even with the temporary price correction, i expect the share to return to the Ksh 300 range once the details of the rights are released, especially if the rights are priced at below Ksh 200.

In January 2010, Stanchart announced the intention to sell their head office building. This transaction should be completed within the financial year 2010. I have a feeling that a bonus issue is in the offing with the end of year announcements next year in February/March because of the following:

1. The sale of building will raise at least Ksh 1B (any property valuer out there?), which would be almost enough to issue a 1:1 bonus (with 300M issued shares at a par value of Ksh 5, this would need Ksh 1.5B).
2. The bank will be celebrating 100 years doing business in Kenya next year January 2011. How else to mark such an occassion than to reward the shareholders with a bonus?
3. At the current trading range of Ksh 270-300, the share is becoming unaffordable in unit terms (To buy 100 shares one needs at least Ksh 27,000). Either a share split or a bonus issue is needed. A 1:1 bonus would effectively reduce the price to about Ksh 140-160 range.
4. When is the last time SCBK issued a bonus?

NB: The re-purchase of 1900 SCBK shares has been effected using mostly the profits collected to date. This is a highly speculative move especially with the share on a decline, but I am of the opinion that the share is worth it especially with all the expected activity on the share in the next six months.This is my investment horizon incase the market correction was to persist (which i doubt will last for more than two weeks).

To any person intending to start a 'copy cat' portfolio, It may be prudent to wait for a few more days before purchasing the SCBK share. This would ensure the share has stopped its decline(purchasing now may result in a temporary loss of value)

Happy hunting
qw25041985
#257 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:02:34 PM
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Indeed this is a speculative move but make sure the stock is sufficiently oversold so that you can buy.
Yes u'll make a profit, coz the price has to shoot up . I congratulate u in advance . LOL.LOL
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
youcan'tstopusnow
#258 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:43:49 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
What if stocksmaster invests in stanchart again if it gets below 250?

I had a feeling stockmaster might do this considering the erosion of the share price since he sold (though I picked a lower price)
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
youcan'tstopusnow
#259 Posted : Wednesday, August 11, 2010 11:47:45 PM
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mwenza, are you going to use the bus fare you set aside to board the same bus as stocksmaster?
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
qw25041985
#260 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:03:08 AM
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He's definately married to the stock. @pkoli. Do t see us getting into a double dip recession. ? Data from the u.s is showing slow growth there.
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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