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Ebenyo
#121 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 8:48:06 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP


hehehe! kumbe ni hivyo? its good now i know.
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VituVingiSana
#122 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:11:08 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,343
Location: Nairobi
Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP

This was brought to my attention by a guy who is neither URP nor TNA. He told me POINT BLANK that the scams being perpetuated in KPLC are huge. Furthermore, he said he prefers the TNA folks who don't completely kill off the golden geese unlike the URP folks. He said the rot will show up in 2-3 years.

I stopped buying KPLC [& became a seller] after this conversation. [BTW, I do not care for KenGen either at this point].
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Ebenyo
#123 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 10:09:01 PM
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Posts: 2,016
Location: Kitale
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP

This was brought to my attention by a guy who is neither URP nor TNA. He told me POINT BLANK that the scams being perpetuated in KPLC are huge. Furthermore, he said he prefers the TNA folks who don't completely kill off the golden geese unlike the URP folks. He said the rot will show up in 2-3 years.

I stopped buying KPLC [& became a seller] after this conversation. [BTW, I do not care for KenGen either at this point].


The reality is that a govt is headed by politicians and so we cannot completely divorce political management from govt controlled firms.
Its a fact we live with it as investors.
The points we shared and agreed earlier are important.So lets follow what we agreed.
Meanwhile i have not yet seen the 'experts' telling us the answer to our earlier question,why some gava controlled firms are doing better while others are on dead bed.
im waiting.
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Ericsson
#124 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 11:18:46 PM
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@Ebenyo
The answer lies on which side of the mkate nusu the company falls.
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Aguytrying
#125 Posted : Saturday, July 09, 2016 11:52:02 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2010
Posts: 5,040
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP

This was brought to my attention by a guy who is neither URP nor TNA. He told me POINT BLANK that the scams being perpetuated in KPLC are huge. Furthermore, he said he prefers the TNA folks who don't completely kill off the golden geese unlike the URP folks. He said the rot will show up in 2-3 years.

I stopped buying KPLC [& became a seller] after this conversation. [BTW, I do not care for KenGen either at this point].


This is very sad. Thats how shareholders interests are played with, they mean nothing to these vampires. I don't like kplc. I'm also warry of KenGen.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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maka
#126 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 2:21:27 AM
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Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP

This was brought to my attention by a guy who is neither URP nor TNA. He told me POINT BLANK that the scams being perpetuated in KPLC are huge. Furthermore, he said he prefers the TNA folks who don't completely kill off the golden geese unlike the URP folks. He said the rot will show up in 2-3 years.

I stopped buying KPLC [& became a seller] after this conversation. [BTW, I do not care for KenGen either at this point].


http://www.standardmedia...peline-company-billions
possunt quia posse videntur
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VituVingiSana
#127 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 7:43:32 AM
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maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP

This was brought to my attention by a guy who is neither URP nor TNA. He told me POINT BLANK that the scams being perpetuated in KPLC are huge. Furthermore, he said he prefers the TNA folks who don't completely kill off the golden geese unlike the URP folks. He said the rot will show up in 2-3 years.

I stopped buying KPLC [& became a seller] after this conversation. [BTW, I do not care for KenGen either at this point].


http://www.standardmedia...peline-company-billions

As a taxpayer Anxious Anxious Anxious ... I need to find a job with GoK. Steal to my heart's content. No-one goes to jail.
Sweetie has retired.
Kibaki's squeeze & her daughter have done well for themselves.
NCPB has 'lost" KES 1bn in "un-millable" maize that might have been bought as Grade 1 maize.
Tunoi has retired. The KES 200mn case has collapsed/died.
KQ has lost 80bn since 2012 yet Naikuni, Mbugua and friends are free.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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murchr
#128 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 7:48:57 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP

This was brought to my attention by a guy who is neither URP nor TNA. He told me POINT BLANK that the scams being perpetuated in KPLC are huge. Furthermore, he said he prefers the TNA folks who don't completely kill off the golden geese unlike the URP folks. He said the rot will show up in 2-3 years.

I stopped buying KPLC [& became a seller] after this conversation. [BTW, I do not care for KenGen either at this point].


http://www.standardmedia...peline-company-billions

As a taxpayer Anxious Anxious Anxious ... I need to find a job with GoK. Steal to my heart's content. No-one goes to jail.
Sweetie has retired.
Kibaki's squeeze & her daughter have done well for themselves.
NCPB has 'lost" KES 1bn in "un-millable" maize that might have been bought as Grade 1 maize.
Tunoi has retired. The KES 200mn case has collapsed/died.
KQ has lost 80bn since 2012 yet Naikuni, Mbugua and friends are free.



Admin housekeeping please, to the krnya economy thread
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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VituVingiSana
#129 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 10:57:33 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,343
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP

This was brought to my attention by a guy who is neither URP nor TNA. He told me POINT BLANK that the scams being perpetuated in KPLC are huge. Furthermore, he said he prefers the TNA folks who don't completely kill off the golden geese unlike the URP folks. He said the rot will show up in 2-3 years.

I stopped buying KPLC [& became a seller] after this conversation. [BTW, I do not care for KenGen either at this point].


http://www.standardmedia...peline-company-billions

As a taxpayer Anxious Anxious Anxious ... I need to find a job with GoK. Steal to my heart's content. No-one goes to jail.
Sweetie has retired.
Kibaki's squeeze & her daughter have done well for themselves.
NCPB has 'lost" KES 1bn in "un-millable" maize that might have been bought as Grade 1 maize.
Tunoi has retired. The KES 200mn case has collapsed/died.
KQ has lost 80bn since 2012 yet Naikuni, Mbugua and friends are free.



Admin housekeeping please, to the krnya economy thread

Admin: Please buy someone a dictionary. Please.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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murchr
#130 Posted : Monday, July 11, 2016 2:18:44 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
VituVingiSana wrote:
murchr wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
maka wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Yes they do and it depends on which side of the mkate nusu the particular institution falls under.
E.g safaricom where gava owns 40% is majorly on the TNA side
TKL which has now just being taken over by Hellios and GoK owns 40% henceforth is on the URP side and that's why John Barorot has been appointed the CTO.
Now look at how the management of the two firms will be played out.
Same case applies to energy sector where Kengen is on the TNA side while KPLC is on the URP

This was brought to my attention by a guy who is neither URP nor TNA. He told me POINT BLANK that the scams being perpetuated in KPLC are huge. Furthermore, he said he prefers the TNA folks who don't completely kill off the golden geese unlike the URP folks. He said the rot will show up in 2-3 years.

I stopped buying KPLC [& became a seller] after this conversation. [BTW, I do not care for KenGen either at this point].


http://www.standardmedia...peline-company-billions

As a taxpayer Anxious Anxious Anxious ... I need to find a job with GoK. Steal to my heart's content. No-one goes to jail.
Sweetie has retired.
Kibaki's squeeze & her daughter have done well for themselves.
NCPB has 'lost" KES 1bn in "un-millable" maize that might have been bought as Grade 1 maize.
Tunoi has retired. The KES 200mn case has collapsed/died.
KQ has lost 80bn since 2012 yet Naikuni, Mbugua and friends are free.



Admin housekeeping please, to the krnya economy thread

Admin: Please buy someone a dictionary. Please.


I saw the typo and chose not to correct it to give you the opportunity to be petty.....oh boy, I was so right.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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