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Safaricom 1H16 Results net profit up 23%
hisah
#241 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2016 5:40:35 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
No buyers excitement at all with results around the corner, below expectation results will be dangerous.

Tested 16.60 intraday and closed unchanged @16.90 on thin volume at these levels. Minimal supply. No sellers!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Aguytrying
#242 Posted : Monday, May 09, 2016 8:35:45 PM
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@muchur, muganda. I'm with Bob on this one. The more successful you are the more pple want a piece of the pie. You would think that safaricom is a government entity based on the spirit of the petitioner. Yet a company like KQ or Mumias gets no airtime. But coz they broke no one cares.
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murchr
#243 Posted : Tuesday, May 10, 2016 7:11:32 AM
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"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#244 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:32:18 AM
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murchr wrote:

Interesting. The top 10 has 40% financial components and 30% telco (two out of three from Africa - Morocco and KE).

The link for the HY results live stream was https://www.safaricom.co.ke/livestream

I hope this hasn't changed.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
murchr
#245 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 5:32:47 AM
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D-Day in a few hours. But I don't expect any love from the market.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#246 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 6:23:25 AM
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FY announcement start at 7:30am.



Using this PAT estimate the following estimates can be derived -

Est EPS = 91cts (13.8% increase vs 80cts)
Est DPS = 72cts (12.5% hike vs 64cts)
Fwd PER (P/E) = 18.63 (16.95/0.91)

This will indicate a slowdown in H2... Mpesa bank traditionally has a better return in H2. Are things flipping? Is the micro econ on the ropes? Telco service affordability vs food affordability. Is consumer spending slipping? Less wages = less spending.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
hisah
#247 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:20:27 AM
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$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Spikes
#248 Posted : Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:43:47 AM
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hisah wrote:
FY announcement start at 7:30am.



Using this PAT estimate the following estimates can be derived -

Est EPS = 91cts (13.8% increase vs 80cts)
Est DPS = 72cts (12.5% hike vs 64cts)
Fwd PER (P/E) = 18.63 (16.95/0.91)

This will indicate a slowdown in H2... Mpesa bank traditionally has a better return in H2. Are things flipping? Is the micro econ on the ropes? Telco service affordability vs food affordability. Is consumer spending slipping? Less wages = less spending.


CBK released microeconomic report recently telling Kenyans that inflation has dropped. Inflation is all time high. I know these guys rely on scanty info based on the general fallacy that oil prices are down. Food prices are going up every year. Fare prices are also forcing their way up despite drop in global oil price. Things are not normal out there KRA missed the target. KRA is now planning to storm mobile money transfer to smoke out tax cheats. It is terrible.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
Metasploit
#249 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2016 12:15:20 PM
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hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
All eyes on the all time high to break it in a bear market....is it 17.90 or it ever tested 18???

17.90 is the mark. I expect it to be blown away! Near term target 18.50 - 18.85 from the chart pattern with an overshoot at 19.75 - 20 level. The spring has been building up bullish force from end of Jan to mid March and also being assisted by flight to quality with all the banking drama.

aborted coup

This will not be an immediate drive, but the breakout build up is taking shape. The expectation is to respect the current resistance at 18 handle then build up pressure for the break.
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“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
Ebenyo
#250 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:15:09 PM
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Metasploit wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
All eyes on the all time high to break it in a bear market....is it 17.90 or it ever tested 18???

17.90 is the mark. I expect it to be blown away! Near term target 18.50 - 18.85 from the chart pattern with an overshoot at 19.75 - 20 level. The spring has been building up bullish force from end of Jan to mid March and also being assisted by flight to quality with all the banking drama.

aborted coup

This will not be an immediate drive, but the breakout build up is taking shape. The expectation is to respect the current resistance at 18 handle then build up pressure for the break.
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But the PE is still high bana @t 19.
Towards the goal of financial freedom
hisah
#251 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:37:41 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
All eyes on the all time high to break it in a bear market....is it 17.90 or it ever tested 18???

17.90 is the mark. I expect it to be blown away! Near term target 18.50 - 18.85 from the chart pattern with an overshoot at 19.75 - 20 level. The spring has been building up bullish force from end of Jan to mid March and also being assisted by flight to quality with all the banking drama.

aborted coup

This will not be an immediate drive, but the breakout build up is taking shape. The expectation is to respect the current resistance at 18 handle then build up pressure for the break.
.

But the PE is still high bana @t 19.

Flight to quality. You need to understand that phrase. If you can't pack funds in kcb or equity, mpesa bank is the only game left in town for large funds. Elections will benefit mpesa bank as a lot of volume will pass via mpesa service, sms, data and voice. Since the crowd expects the price to tank (fearful), the market will move in the opposite direction! Until the day the crowd gets into euphoria in this counter, expect gradual higher highs as the price grinds higher!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Ebenyo
#252 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2016 10:05:38 PM
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hisah wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
All eyes on the all time high to break it in a bear market....is it 17.90 or it ever tested 18???

17.90 is the mark. I expect it to be blown away! Near term target 18.50 - 18.85 from the chart pattern with an overshoot at 19.75 - 20 level. The spring has been building up bullish force from end of Jan to mid March and also being assisted by flight to quality with all the banking drama.

aborted coup

This will not be an immediate drive, but the breakout build up is taking shape. The expectation is to respect the current resistance at 18 handle then build up pressure for the break.
.

But the PE is still high bana @t 19.

Flight to quality. You need to understand that phrase. If you can't pack funds in kcb or equity, mpesa bank is the only game left in town for large funds. Elections will benefit mpesa bank as a lot of volume will pass via mpesa service, sms, data and voice. Since the crowd expects the price to tank (fearful), the market will move in the opposite direction! Until the day the crowd gets into euphoria in this counter, expect gradual higher highs as the price grinds higher!

thanks for these elaboration!
Towards the goal of financial freedom
Ericsson
#253 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:08:00 PM
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Let's wait to see whether the entry of hellios taking over Telkom kenya from July 1 will give safaricom a run for their money and grab some market share from them.
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Spikes
#254 Posted : Tuesday, June 07, 2016 11:19:06 PM
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hisah wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
All eyes on the all time high to break it in a bear market....is it 17.90 or it ever tested 18???

17.90 is the mark. I expect it to be blown away! Near term target 18.50 - 18.85 from the chart pattern with an overshoot at 19.75 - 20 level. The spring has been building up bullish force from end of Jan to mid March and also being assisted by flight to quality with all the banking drama.

aborted coup

This will not be an immediate drive, but the breakout build up is taking shape. The expectation is to respect the current resistance at 18 handle then build up pressure for the break.
.

But the PE is still high bana @t 19.

Flight to quality. You need to understand that phrase. If you can't pack funds in kcb or equity, mpesa bank is the only game left in town for large funds. Elections will benefit mpesa bank as a lot of volume will pass via mpesa service, sms, data and voice. Since the crowd expects the price to tank (fearful), the market will move in the opposite direction! Until the day the crowd gets into euphoria in this counter, expect gradual higher highs as the price grinds higher!



Very soon this stock shall be forced to obey technical analyst as is stipulated by Elliot principle. Sub 15/- is the limit.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
enyands
#255 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2016 1:05:34 AM
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Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
All eyes on the all time high to break it in a bear market....is it 17.90 or it ever tested 18???

17.90 is the mark. I expect it to be blown away! Near term target 18.50 - 18.85 from the chart pattern with an overshoot at 19.75 - 20 level. The spring has been building up bullish force from end of Jan to mid March and also being assisted by flight to quality with all the banking drama.

aborted coup

This will not be an immediate drive, but the breakout build up is taking shape. The expectation is to respect the current resistance at 18 handle then build up pressure for the break.
.

But the PE is still high bana @t 19.

Flight to quality. You need to understand that phrase. If you can't pack funds in kcb or equity, mpesa bank is the only game left in town for large funds. Elections will benefit mpesa bank as a lot of volume will pass via mpesa service, sms, data and voice. Since the crowd expects the price to tank (fearful), the market will move in the opposite direction! Until the day the crowd gets into euphoria in this counter, expect gradual higher highs as the price grinds higher!



Very soon this stock shall be forced to obey technical analyst as is stipulated by Elliot principle. Sub 15/- is the limit.



Spikes how is the positive group team therapy you went to helping you Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
murchr
#256 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2016 4:21:22 AM
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I like these live charts

TheGeek March 2015 wrote:
hisah wrote:
Wondering when that 16/- sale order will clear to get this thing moving to higher highs as 16/- turn into support. Focus still remains 18/- as per fibo projections.



15.5 is being doggedly defended




posted March 17 2015
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hisah
#257 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2016 7:08:50 AM
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Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
All eyes on the all time high to break it in a bear market....is it 17.90 or it ever tested 18???

17.90 is the mark. I expect it to be blown away! Near term target 18.50 - 18.85 from the chart pattern with an overshoot at 19.75 - 20 level. The spring has been building up bullish force from end of Jan to mid March and also being assisted by flight to quality with all the banking drama.

aborted coup

This will not be an immediate drive, but the breakout build up is taking shape. The expectation is to respect the current resistance at 18 handle then build up pressure for the break.
.

But the PE is still high bana @t 19.

Flight to quality. You need to understand that phrase. If you can't pack funds in kcb or equity, mpesa bank is the only game left in town for large funds. Elections will benefit mpesa bank as a lot of volume will pass via mpesa service, sms, data and voice. Since the crowd expects the price to tank (fearful), the market will move in the opposite direction! Until the day the crowd gets into euphoria in this counter, expect gradual higher highs as the price grinds higher!



Very soon this stock shall be forced to obey technical analyst as is stipulated by Elliot principle. Sub 15/- is the limit.

Where is the crowd to panic sell in here? Another example is that I-reit IPO listing, which will not tank or has refused to tank. Why? No crowd. The crowd mentality is what causes panic buying or selling.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Emerger
#258 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:08:31 PM
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hisah wrote:
Spikes wrote:
hisah wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Metasploit wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
hisah wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
All eyes on the all time high to break it in a bear market....is it 17.90 or it ever tested 18???

17.90 is the mark. I expect it to be blown away! Near term target 18.50 - 18.85 from the chart pattern with an overshoot at 19.75 - 20 level. The spring has been building up bullish force from end of Jan to mid March and also being assisted by flight to quality with all the banking drama.

aborted coup

This will not be an immediate drive, but the breakout build up is taking shape. The expectation is to respect the current resistance at 18 handle then build up pressure for the break.
.

But the PE is still high bana @t 19.

Flight to quality. You need to understand that phrase. If you can't pack funds in kcb or equity, mpesa bank is the only game left in town for large funds. Elections will benefit mpesa bank as a lot of volume will pass via mpesa service, sms, data and voice. Since the crowd expects the price to tank (fearful), the market will move in the opposite direction! Until the day the crowd gets into euphoria in this counter, expect gradual higher highs as the price grinds higher!



Very soon this stock shall be forced to obey technical analyst as is stipulated by Elliot principle. Sub 15/- is the limit.

Where is the crowd to panic sell in here? Another example is that I-reit IPO listing, which will not tank or has refused to tank. Why? No crowd. The crowd mentality is what causes panic buying or selling.



Looks like its on a trailblazer. Strong upthrust.
What is the next landing level? @Chartists
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic
#259 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:12:47 PM
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Looking to retest 17.90, Safcom's all time high on rumours of a banking licence granted to them/acquisition of a bankd'oh!

@SufficientlyP
Metasploit
#260 Posted : Wednesday, June 08, 2016 12:16:46 PM
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Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:

Looking to retest 17.90, Safcom's all time high on rumours of a banking licence granted to themd'oh!



@Hisah i have an overshoot of 23.5

FT.com real time chart shows bullish candlesticks on expanding Bollinger bands.

There is absolutely no supply.I expect 18.50 to be tested today

As hisah says,the supply side shows there is absolutely no crowd in this Gem

“The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.”
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