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mwekez@ji
#121 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:17:55 PM
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josiah33 wrote:
I have always known that Kenya Power will derail vision 2030........bure kabisa.


Am glad the current government has realized this company will derail vision 2030 and is taking action. #KPLC_Shareholders_Bewarned
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the deal
#122 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:24:24 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
the deal wrote:
What WSR is creating is candle lit dinners and sabotaging the Kenyan economy in the long run...when will African leaders learn??? maybe Eveready has a future after all...the Kenyan elec grid is in a state of decay...wait Kenyans are still breeding putting more pressure on the dilapited grid...I wonder what this thing will be called after 10 years if nobody invests in it now....in the short term Kenya Power is screwed...Kenya Power has contracts to fullfil with KenGen & IPP's...once the new power comes onstream & KP is not connecting clients then expect margins to take a hit....in fact KP has now become a threat to the future of KenGen.


Applause Applause Applause Applause you nailed it. It's either we pay to fix the dilapidated power grid now or we pay in the future either way we must pay. If we don't invest now in 10 years we will sourcing very expensive power from a hundred IPPs


WTH!!! Let the shareholders pay for the development of this company!!! Otherwise, let competition come in with high efficiency to supply the power at even lower price!!!


why should private sector capital pay for public infrastructure while the govt is spending taxpayer's money to buy laptops toys for children which is a private sector function?


@mkonomtupu, KPLC infrastructure is KPLC assets owned by the shareholders. These shareholders and their appointed managers should be the ones to develop ingenious way of growing their assets and increasing efficiency inorder to gain for development of the country. Otherwise, lets introduce competition, get the efficiency and consequently the lower energy tariff that our country deserves

Competition will not be charity...this will be business guys who would want a return on capital employed....nobody would want to invest in an industry where pricing power is in the hands of politicians....btwn in countries where there are numeral power distributors...power tariffs have never comedown....I can give you examples if you want....I think you just like WSR dont understand the problems in the energy sector

1. The grid dilapitated-it needs money to be improved...where does the money come from? State or Consumers?

2. Expensive and unreliable power sources-thermal, Aggrekko generators...hydro-how do you reduce this? Investing in Geothermal...but Geothermal development needs money...where does the money come from? state or consumers?

If the Jubilee governments wants cheap power then....

They need to nationalise and Subsidise the energy sector....we will see how far they will go....
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mwekez@ji
#123 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:36:57 PM
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the deal wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
the deal wrote:
What WSR is creating is candle lit dinners and sabotaging the Kenyan economy in the long run...when will African leaders learn??? maybe Eveready has a future after all...the Kenyan elec grid is in a state of decay...wait Kenyans are still breeding putting more pressure on the dilapited grid...I wonder what this thing will be called after 10 years if nobody invests in it now....in the short term Kenya Power is screwed...Kenya Power has contracts to fullfil with KenGen & IPP's...once the new power comes onstream & KP is not connecting clients then expect margins to take a hit....in fact KP has now become a threat to the future of KenGen.


Applause Applause Applause Applause you nailed it. It's either we pay to fix the dilapidated power grid now or we pay in the future either way we must pay. If we don't invest now in 10 years we will sourcing very expensive power from a hundred IPPs


WTH!!! Let the shareholders pay for the development of this company!!! Otherwise, let competition come in with high efficiency to supply the power at even lower price!!!


why should private sector capital pay for public infrastructure while the govt is spending taxpayer's money to buy laptops toys for children which is a private sector function?


@mkonomtupu, KPLC infrastructure is KPLC assets owned by the shareholders. These shareholders and their appointed managers should develop ingenious way of growing their assets and increasing efficiency inorder to gain from development of the country. Otherwise, lets introduce competition, get the efficiency and consequently the lower energy tariff that our country deserves

Competition will not be charity...this will be business guys who would want a return on capital employed....nobody would want to invest in an industry where pricing power is in the hands of politicians....btwn in countries where there are numeral power distributors...power tariffs have never comedown....I can give you examples if you want....I think you just like WSR dont understand the problems in the energy sector

1. The grid dilapitated-it needs money to be improved...where does the money come from? State or Consumers?

2. Expensive and unreliable power sources-thermal, Aggrekko generators...hydro-how do you reduce this? Investing in Geothermal...but Geothermal development needs money...where does the money come from? state or consumers?

If the Jubilee governments wants cheap power then....

They need to nationalise and Subsidise the energy sector....we will see how far they will go....



1. Shareholders need Return On Capital Employed. - KPLC has this and would even get more with efficiency

2. If KE tariff structure mirrored a fair price, politicians and government would not interfere

3. KPLC asset are dilapidated coz they havent been doing what is required over time. May the shareholders think outside the box and get a way of fixing this!!!

4. Production of cheap electricity is being worked on. Watch the space

> All Jubilee government is telling KPLC is to put its messy house in order. The MPs have done the same and change is invetably coming #KPLC_Shareholder_Bewarned
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dunkang
#124 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:44:36 PM
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I just hate the ignorance and arrogance of KPLC and its shareholders some of whom have never seen a KPLC Bill.

Whats the use of Rural Electrification Levy, Fuel Levy, FOREX levy, Fixed Charge in the bills. This KPLC buy electricity at $0.07 from KENGEN and sell to me at $0.20 per KWH.

The President's mother, former first lady Ngina, is the largest individual shareholder at KPLC, someone tell me this is not a game we are been played. They are now doing a study to 'ribber stamp' this thuggery.
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the deal
#125 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 2:12:41 PM
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What will be Kenya Powers ROCE now that they wont get a tariff hike? I forsee this thing recording losses in the future...cos...to grow revenues they need clients...now that they will slow down addition of clients...revenues will not grow...trust me the cost of repairing the current grid will only go up....plus KP will need to pay for the power from KenGen and IPP's...so gross margins will take a hit...
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the deal
#126 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:21:54 PM
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National blackout...the ancient grid has finally collapsed....candle lit dinners folks.Sad
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the deal
#127 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:24:30 PM
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the deal wrote:
National blackout...the ancient grid has finally collapsed....candle lit dinners folks.Sad

At around 1.30 pm this afternoon, the two transmission lines between the Olkaria geothermal load centre and Ndenderu sub-station near Nairobi tripped, while they were carrying 400 MW of electricity.



Subsequently, the national interconnected grid and generating system also tripped, causing a national power outage.



Kenya Power engineers immediately commenced a ‘blackstart’ with electricity supplied from Uganda to Sondu Miriu power station. By the time of issuing this statement, electricity supply to the national grid had commenced with feeders in West Kenya.



Kenya Power will issue a comprehensive statement once it establishes why the two transmission lines tripped. We wish to apologise to our customers for the inconvenience and assure them that everything possible is being done to restore power as quickly as possible.

http://www.kplc.co.ke/in...106&tx_mininews_pi1[showUid]=116&cHash=39b16741a9
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KulaRaha
#128 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:31:29 PM
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Blah blah blah blah blah.

Fat cats get fatter supplying useless equipment to KP.

How much profit did they make last year?
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
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Njung'e
#129 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:57:29 PM
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@the deal,
I read that "black start" thing and i almost fell off my chair.What it actually means is that the targeted supplier stations do not have enough capacity to prop the gridSad .....................Welcome to the world of Kenya Paraffin Lamps and Candles..
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
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murchr
#130 Posted : Tuesday, May 28, 2013 4:58:50 PM
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Get rid of that engineer and his fat cat managers and bring in the creative minds we have. KPLC needs a radical surgery may be its time Mr Jonathan Ciano went back to this company. Uchumi now is ok.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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