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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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repat wrote:  LONG POST ALERT....BUT PLEASE READ IF MAJUU IS YOUR DESTINATION. Its kind of a ramble but soma ujue ukweli. Mimi ni wale nakuanga na browse tu hapa but I decided to join nisaidie wengine hapa naona wako karibu kuji waste going to majuu. As someone who has been majuu for almost 20 years I think Im qualified to give you the ins and outs of this society. I moved here na nikasomea hapa, I have a college degree mpaka graduate level, I have worked in corporate America and I have owned my own businessES in the US for a while and am also invested in real estate here. Im friends with the aforementioned nurses, lots of them, in my circle of friends is a few pharmacists and a doctor na lawyer pia, ma accountant kadhaa. We are all on the way home, one way or the other. KILA MTU AKO PLANNING STAGES ZA KURUDI HOME. Im on my way out as my handle suggests. Not to mention that there are a lot of repats in kenya at the moment already. guys like me who have worked in America, been relatively successful but are just tired of the rat race...Thats what it is over here. you're constantly chasing the wheel like a hamster, even after you've attained what back home will be considered career success. Lazima uendelee ku kimbia ama you fall off. Please do yourself and your family a favor and stay in kenya, you will be much better off. when you move to majuu, be prepared to give up at least 3 years of your life (ASK YOURSELF WHY GUYS WHO GO TO MAJUU TAKE SO MANY YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN CO0ME AND VISIT?). DONT BUY THE VENEER THAT GUYS SELL WHEN THEY COME HOME NA KUFLOSS SAA ZOTE. I cant speak for canada, but stato is littered with guys who look just like you who have never and cant visit home acha idealism hapa..mimi nakupatia the real... whether you come here with a green card as I did or a student visa ama hata mgeni and you try to game the system. you will lose productive years of your life. Years that with that you could have doubled if not tripled that 700k. Hata ukiwa na green card it takes guys here a while before they get acclimated to how things run here, how to converse and be understood etc. you will need to get a place to stay cause this is not like kenya where relas let you crash at their place for ever. Hapa your uncle, maybe even your bro is trying to get you out the door as soon as you score your first, fast food ama warehouse job. BTW those are the only jobs you will probably get beside kuosha wa mama, since all your degrees and certificates might as well be toilet paper here. Rent si mchezo unless una taka kuishi kwa hood. And I live in the south where our rents are the some of the lowest in the country. You will then be forced to work two jobs as someone else mentioned proudly (I dont know why he's proud of that). In the beginning it will seem like fun, you can work two even three jobs and make money, but it wears off fast, like someone else noted those who are excited about this are still "newbies". Human beings are social animals and you can only work 16-18 hour days for so long before you burn out . Not counting the time it takes you to drive to and from work and with only 24 hours in a day youre only left with about 6-8, to shower sleep and be human. which brings me to my next point (FRIENDS AND FAMILY) Life is more than just about money. As someone else pointed out, forget the ka local yako where you normally drop by for kamoja tu baada ya kazi. here you ka local will be you and your 6 pack at home, hakuna mtu ako na time ya kuhang out saa zote, kila mtu is chasing overtime. The bills wont pay themselves. guys patana once in a while. its a pitiful existence. Add to the fact that now youre expected to heavily contribute to affairs back home and the stress is heavy. Kama uko na watoto, when do you see them, ukienda job, wame lala, by the time wanatoka chou uko job ingine already, ukitoka job wamesha lala....also ask yourself...WHY DOES IT TAKE DIASPORA GUYS FOREVER TO GET MARRIED???NA WALE WAME MARIKA NI DOMESTIC PROBLEMS TUPU. even guys who had good relationships with their spouses get here and problems zina anza. Its because life ya hapa iko na stress na the only person you're constantly seeing is your spouse so unamtolea hasira saa zote. I dont mean by shouting ama being abusive. but even subtle things add up over time mpaka watu wana divorce. Not to mention you dont see each other to spend 'quality time' so the guy at her job who she pours her heart out to starts looking attractive. This goes both ways BTW....The same thing happens to single people, every chick or guy you date ndio una tolea hasira na mna onana once in a while. I have relas who work in Naks and the wife lives in nai, on some months i know anaona wife yake more than I see my galfie....If youre single also consider the dating pool here is smaller, so EVERY CHICK you approach amekua dame ya mtu hapa at some point. Someone you know and you probably pint with maybe even your rela ame kagua hizo vitu. Hapa ni kama kukatiana kwa estate yenu pekee, cause watu single wamekatiana wote. Like I've said up there, your degrees might as well be toilet paper, no employer is gonna take a degree from an african uni seriously, so you have to try and join a uni for a masters or bachelors to validate your other degrees, hiyo ni process ya kamwaka hivi ku join, and another 3-4 to finish that degree. By this time umeeshakua majuu for at least 6 years if not more. as I said before look around at your relas who are in majuu and see how long it took them to be able to come back and visit. And how long they can stay in kenya before they have to dash back cause cash ime isha na bills za huku bado zina ngoja. Like I said dont buy the 'floss' hype, guys sell when they come to visit. Na hizo hapo juu ni kama umekuja na green card. if you come as a student you'll have to enroll in your uni that sponsered you ama you lose you visa status and youre now deportable, na immigration siku hizi wako busy sana. Costs za kuregister hiyo shule uko nazo???? 700k is nothing...i dont know about canada, but in states, students cant work. Most do, buts its either you get a chini ya maji where someone pays you in cash and less than youre worth, ama you get someone to loan you their papers to use, good luck with that. Until you get a citizen to marry you na umlipe cash, ama you're able to convince some mama that you love her na akuoe for reals, this will probably take some time cause hapa sio kama kenya where you smile at a chick and shes ready for you to meet her paros cause miaka imefika. If youre trying to come as a guest and game the system....Buda boss. Hata kubaki ushago na ulime is better than this. Please ask more people before you decide. Not just your one rela in alberta, ask a few other kenyans who are in different phases of assimilating to majuu, preferably friends who wont be too prideful to let you know the real situation. That THIS PLACE SUCKS. Pride ndio ime weka watu hapa. When you move here you attain a certain 'status' you dont want to go home kuanza ku hustle tena so most stay, hata kama life ime wa chapa. Seriously, WHY WOULD YOU WANNA DO THIS TO YOURSELF?? Take this as you may, but im speaking from a lot of positive experience in the US,i've never had to osha wamama or whatever. Ive been lucky to have a few decent jobs and business has been good to me. Im speaking from the perspective of someone who has been relatively successful here, bringing in six figures on some years and high five figures on off years. i would take a 30k job in kenya at the drop of a hat over a 200k job here. I visit kenya quite often, sometimes as much as three times a years, every time my flight is leaving JKIA im like a kindergaten kid getting dropped of on the first day of school, sitaki kuenda...Kenya ni mzuri, kenya ni tamu Tupatane hapo iclub niki kuja unipatie kamoja vile nime kusave mtu wangu Thank you .I tried to help the brother but he is a risk taker . I'm in Kenya right now .I had my share of that rat race .THE ADVICE YOU ARE RECEIVING HERE IS FREE BUT A BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW.i wanted to offer him my contacts we meet I talk to him but you have told him what i wanted to hammer in his head.aamua mwenyewe .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:hardwood wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:enyands wrote: ...
After careful assessment I believe your heart and will is what will make you get through. Just know you are alone and work on your papers first. Tafuta asylum or something .forget the student crap.do asylum thing as soon as you land.ukichelewa to file utaulizwa why wait for 2 years to file ....hint Best of luck sir. Ni hayo tu
how can that asylum thing work, never been out of kenya myself, but I have heard you need a visa just to get into a plane heading to the west. what kind of visa can one get with 700k, can one visit as a tourist and disappear after that visa expires, I am assuming tourist visa will be like 3 or 4 months, and how does one apply for a tourist visa to the states, I might think of joining @chaser just incase I dont see him having any chance of getting a visa. They give tourist visas to those with assets over 100m, not some recently graduated jobless 26yr old single males with only 0.7m in their account. The only way to get the visa and assylum could be to join Boniface Mwangi in one one of his demos and ensure he (paperchaser) is clobbered to near death by the mboys in blue. It would also help if he "talked" (cost is 50k) to a journalist friend to visit him in hosi and air his story on 9pm news. Maybe that way the canadians would consider giving him a visa and accept his application for assylum and fund his degree in "human rights". 1. Boss, with an annual paycheck of $12,000 i dont qualify for the highlighted title. 2. A tourist VISA has many considerations with the last one being the over 100m worth! An invitation, for instance to a graduation, technically accords you a VISA. So am still hopeful. 3. The third option of consulting Boniface Mwangi for a brief show down just shows how creative Kenyans can be if they have their eyes set on achieving something. Hook me up with your job as you leave for greener pasture which one? ya kunusa airports? No no hii job ya upcoming pp chaser ya $12,000 a year.let him hook me up na his work as he leaves for canada
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/12/2016 Posts: 9 Location: usa
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@swenani I agree. Sometimes people confuse themselves with the environment...mtu haezi toboa ana anza kublame country, mara sijui gava, mar tribalism, mara whatever...Im not saying those things arent true, but some poeple are just 'excuse-aholics'
@enyands life ni kusaidiana. kama mtu hataki kusaidika acha aji chome mwenyewe...mpatie wembe mtoto aki ulilia. Meme niko njiani, east west home is best. But the guy should buy me a beer cause I didnt even charge him for the education I gave him on life in stato. Its the least he can do
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/9/2006 Posts: 1,502
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Interesting stuff . If you are a jobless ambitious young man living in one of numerous slums na kibarua kwa kalasing'a take the risk. Do this If you must fulfill your majuu dreams. Apply for leave of absence from your work place then enda as a tourist for a month or so. You will be in a better position to decide. Don't be misled by those thinking America is Beverly Hills while they have never been past Kinoo. Humble opinion after living in four continents. work to prosper
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/25/2012 Posts: 1,826
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sasa, a friend from the village who went to the states told the family that he now owns a taxi company called uba, he has a single taxi in that company that he is driving himself and he is still doing an mba though he like started it 2010, but he says he has to maintain a job looking after some kids. he said he can get another taxi and employ someone. Considering the guy was not the sharpest when he was in kenya, I reckon if he can make it to start a taxi company, I should at least make some success huko.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/29/2008 Posts: 573
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enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:hardwood wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:enyands wrote: ...
After careful assessment I believe your heart and will is what will make you get through. Just know you are alone and work on your papers first. Tafuta asylum or something .forget the student crap.do asylum thing as soon as you land.ukichelewa to file utaulizwa why wait for 2 years to file ....hint Best of luck sir. Ni hayo tu
how can that asylum thing work, never been out of kenya myself, but I have heard you need a visa just to get into a plane heading to the west. what kind of visa can one get with 700k, can one visit as a tourist and disappear after that visa expires, I am assuming tourist visa will be like 3 or 4 months, and how does one apply for a tourist visa to the states, I might think of joining @chaser just incase I dont see him having any chance of getting a visa. They give tourist visas to those with assets over 100m, not some recently graduated jobless 26yr old single males with only 0.7m in their account. The only way to get the visa and assylum could be to join Boniface Mwangi in one one of his demos and ensure he (paperchaser) is clobbered to near death by the mboys in blue. It would also help if he "talked" (cost is 50k) to a journalist friend to visit him in hosi and air his story on 9pm news. Maybe that way the canadians would consider giving him a visa and accept his application for assylum and fund his degree in "human rights". 1. Boss, with an annual paycheck of $12,000 i dont qualify for the highlighted title. 2. A tourist VISA has many considerations with the last one being the over 100m worth! An invitation, for instance to a graduation, technically accords you a VISA. So am still hopeful. 3. The third option of consulting Boniface Mwangi for a brief show down just shows how creative Kenyans can be if they have their eyes set on achieving something. Hook me up with your job as you leave for greener pasture which one? ya kunusa airports? No no hii job ya upcoming pp chaser ya $12,000 a year.let him hook me up na his work as he leaves for canada Boss,go to majuu with a tourist visa and engage in a sham marriage.And voila! You will get your residence permit.That is how every Kenyan abroad get their residence permits.Fake marriage will solve most of your problems...
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/20/2015 Posts: 489 Location: Nairobi
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repat wrote:  LONG POST ALERT....BUT PLEASE READ IF MAJUU IS YOUR DESTINATION. Its kind of a ramble but soma ujue ukweli. Mimi ni wale nakuanga na browse tu hapa but I decided to join nisaidie wengine hapa naona wako karibu kuji waste going to majuu. As someone who has been majuu for almost 20 years I think Im qualified to give you the ins and outs of this society. I moved here na nikasomea hapa, I have a college degree mpaka graduate level, I have worked in corporate America and I have owned my own businessES in the US for a while and am also invested in real estate here. Im friends with the aforementioned nurses, lots of them, in my circle of friends is a few pharmacists and a doctor na lawyer pia, ma accountant kadhaa. We are all on the way home, one way or the other. KILA MTU AKO PLANNING STAGES ZA KURUDI HOME. Im on my way out as my handle suggests. Not to mention that there are a lot of repats in kenya at the moment already. guys like me who have worked in America, been relatively successful but are just tired of the rat race...Thats what it is over here. you're constantly chasing the wheel like a hamster, even after you've attained what back home will be considered career success. Lazima uendelee ku kimbia ama you fall off. Please do yourself and your family a favor and stay in kenya, you will be much better off. when you move to majuu, be prepared to give up at least 3 years of your life (ASK YOURSELF WHY GUYS WHO GO TO MAJUU TAKE SO MANY YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN CO0ME AND VISIT?). DONT BUY THE VENEER THAT GUYS SELL WHEN THEY COME HOME NA KUFLOSS SAA ZOTE. I cant speak for canada, but stato is littered with guys who look just like you who have never and cant visit home acha idealism hapa..mimi nakupatia the real... whether you come here with a green card as I did or a student visa ama hata mgeni and you try to game the system. you will lose productive years of your life. Years that with that you could have doubled if not tripled that 700k. Hata ukiwa na green card it takes guys here a while before they get acclimated to how things run here, how to converse and be understood etc. you will need to get a place to stay cause this is not like kenya where relas let you crash at their place for ever. Hapa your uncle, maybe even your bro is trying to get you out the door as soon as you score your first, fast food ama warehouse job. BTW those are the only jobs you will probably get beside kuosha wa mama, since all your degrees and certificates might as well be toilet paper here. Rent si mchezo unless una taka kuishi kwa hood. And I live in the south where our rents are the some of the lowest in the country. You will then be forced to work two jobs as someone else mentioned proudly (I dont know why he's proud of that). In the beginning it will seem like fun, you can work two even three jobs and make money, but it wears off fast, like someone else noted those who are excited about this are still "newbies". Human beings are social animals and you can only work 16-18 hour days for so long before you burn out . Not counting the time it takes you to drive to and from work and with only 24 hours in a day youre only left with about 6-8, to shower sleep and be human. which brings me to my next point (FRIENDS AND FAMILY) Life is more than just about money. As someone else pointed out, forget the ka local yako where you normally drop by for kamoja tu baada ya kazi. here you ka local will be you and your 6 pack at home, hakuna mtu ako na time ya kuhang out saa zote, kila mtu is chasing overtime. The bills wont pay themselves. guys patana once in a while. its a pitiful existence. Add to the fact that now youre expected to heavily contribute to affairs back home and the stress is heavy. Kama uko na watoto, when do you see them, ukienda job, wame lala, by the time wanatoka chou uko job ingine already, ukitoka job wamesha lala....also ask yourself...WHY DOES IT TAKE DIASPORA GUYS FOREVER TO GET MARRIED???NA WALE WAME MARIKA NI DOMESTIC PROBLEMS TUPU. even guys who had good relationships with their spouses get here and problems zina anza. Its because life ya hapa iko na stress na the only person you're constantly seeing is your spouse so unamtolea hasira saa zote. I dont mean by shouting ama being abusive. but even subtle things add up over time mpaka watu wana divorce. Not to mention you dont see each other to spend 'quality time' so the guy at her job who she pours her heart out to starts looking attractive. This goes both ways BTW....The same thing happens to single people, every chick or guy you date ndio una tolea hasira na mna onana once in a while. I have relas who work in Naks and the wife lives in nai, on some months i know anaona wife yake more than I see my galfie....If youre single also consider the dating pool here is smaller, so EVERY CHICK you approach amekua dame ya mtu hapa at some point. Someone you know and you probably pint with maybe even your rela ame kagua hizo vitu. Hapa ni kama kukatiana kwa estate yenu pekee, cause watu single wamekatiana wote. Like I've said up there, your degrees might as well be toilet paper, no employer is gonna take a degree from an african uni seriously, so you have to try and join a uni for a masters or bachelors to validate your other degrees, hiyo ni process ya kamwaka hivi ku join, and another 3-4 to finish that degree. By this time umeeshakua majuu for at least 6 years if not more. as I said before look around at your relas who are in majuu and see how long it took them to be able to come back and visit. And how long they can stay in kenya before they have to dash back cause cash ime isha na bills za huku bado zina ngoja. Like I said dont buy the 'floss' hype, guys sell when they come to visit. Na hizo hapo juu ni kama umekuja na green card. if you come as a student you'll have to enroll in your uni that sponsered you ama you lose you visa status and youre now deportable, na immigration siku hizi wako busy sana. Costs za kuregister hiyo shule uko nazo???? 700k is nothing...i dont know about canada, but in states, students cant work. Most do, buts its either you get a chini ya maji where someone pays you in cash and less than youre worth, ama you get someone to loan you their papers to use, good luck with that. Until you get a citizen to marry you na umlipe cash, ama you're able to convince some mama that you love her na akuoe for reals, this will probably take some time cause hapa sio kama kenya where you smile at a chick and shes ready for you to meet her paros cause miaka imefika. If youre trying to come as a guest and game the system....Buda boss. Hata kubaki ushago na ulime is better than this. Please ask more people before you decide. Not just your one rela in alberta, ask a few other kenyans who are in different phases of assimilating to majuu, preferably friends who wont be too prideful to let you know the real situation. That THIS PLACE SUCKS. Pride ndio ime weka watu hapa. When you move here you attain a certain 'status' you dont want to go home kuanza ku hustle tena so most stay, hata kama life ime wa chapa. Seriously, WHY WOULD YOU WANNA DO THIS TO YOURSELF?? Take this as you may, but im speaking from a lot of positive experience in the US,i've never had to osha wamama or whatever. Ive been lucky to have a few decent jobs and business has been good to me. Im speaking from the perspective of someone who has been relatively successful here, bringing in six figures on some years and high five figures on off years. i would take a 30k job in kenya at the drop of a hat over a 200k job here. I visit kenya quite often, sometimes as much as three times a years, every time my flight is leaving JKIA im like a kindergaten kid getting dropped of on the first day of school, sitaki kuenda...Kenya ni mzuri, kenya ni tamu Tupatane hapo iclub niki kuja unipatie kamoja vile nime kusave mtu wangu Thanks a lot brother for sitting behind your laptop for several minutes and writing to advise me. I really appreciate your efforts. Asanti sana. I think this is the best advise one would get. Thanks a lot. I owe you a crate of Kilimanjaro Larger!! One thing though, am not being chased from Kenya. I am willingfully going there and if things do not pick up after one year, i will just pack my bags and come back to Kenya. And am sure starting again wont be that hard!! Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/20/2015 Posts: 489 Location: Nairobi
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Ali Baba wrote:enyands wrote:Swenani wrote:enyands wrote:UpcomingPaperChaser wrote:hardwood wrote:sitaki.kujulikana wrote:enyands wrote: ...
After careful assessment I believe your heart and will is what will make you get through. Just know you are alone and work on your papers first. Tafuta asylum or something .forget the student crap.do asylum thing as soon as you land.ukichelewa to file utaulizwa why wait for 2 years to file ....hint Best of luck sir. Ni hayo tu
how can that asylum thing work, never been out of kenya myself, but I have heard you need a visa just to get into a plane heading to the west. what kind of visa can one get with 700k, can one visit as a tourist and disappear after that visa expires, I am assuming tourist visa will be like 3 or 4 months, and how does one apply for a tourist visa to the states, I might think of joining @chaser just incase I dont see him having any chance of getting a visa. They give tourist visas to those with assets over 100m, not some recently graduated jobless 26yr old single males with only 0.7m in their account. The only way to get the visa and assylum could be to join Boniface Mwangi in one one of his demos and ensure he (paperchaser) is clobbered to near death by the mboys in blue. It would also help if he "talked" (cost is 50k) to a journalist friend to visit him in hosi and air his story on 9pm news. Maybe that way the canadians would consider giving him a visa and accept his application for assylum and fund his degree in "human rights". 1. Boss, with an annual paycheck of $12,000 i dont qualify for the highlighted title. 2. A tourist VISA has many considerations with the last one being the over 100m worth! An invitation, for instance to a graduation, technically accords you a VISA. So am still hopeful. 3. The third option of consulting Boniface Mwangi for a brief show down just shows how creative Kenyans can be if they have their eyes set on achieving something. Hook me up with your job as you leave for greener pasture which one? ya kunusa airports? No no hii job ya upcoming pp chaser ya $12,000 a year.let him hook me up na his work as he leaves for canada Boss,go to majuu with a tourist visa and engage in a sham marriage.And voila! You will get your residence permit.That is how every Kenyan abroad get their residence permits.Fake marriage will solve most of your problems... Boss, those are some of the survival tactics that am intending to apply once i land in Toronto!! God help me Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/20/2015 Posts: 489 Location: Nairobi
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Tokyo wrote:Interesting stuff . If you are a jobless ambitious young man living in one of numerous slums na kibarua kwa kalasing'a take the risk. Do this If you must fulfill your majuu dreams. Apply for leave of absence from your work place then enda as a tourist for a month or so. You will be in a better position to decide. Don't be misled by those thinking America is Beverly Hills while they have never been past Kinoo. Humble opinion after living in four continents. Hhahahaha.......hakuna cha leave mtu nguyaz.....resignation mara hiyo Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/20/2015 Posts: 489 Location: Nairobi
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enyands wrote:repat wrote:  LONG POST ALERT....BUT PLEASE READ IF MAJUU IS YOUR DESTINATION. Its kind of a ramble but soma ujue ukweli. Mimi ni wale nakuanga na browse tu hapa but I decided to join nisaidie wengine hapa naona wako karibu kuji waste going to majuu. As someone who has been majuu for almost 20 years I think Im qualified to give you the ins and outs of this society. I moved here na nikasomea hapa, I have a college degree mpaka graduate level, I have worked in corporate America and I have owned my own businessES in the US for a while and am also invested in real estate here. Im friends with the aforementioned nurses, lots of them, in my circle of friends is a few pharmacists and a doctor na lawyer pia, ma accountant kadhaa. We are all on the way home, one way or the other. KILA MTU AKO PLANNING STAGES ZA KURUDI HOME. Im on my way out as my handle suggests. Not to mention that there are a lot of repats in kenya at the moment already. guys like me who have worked in America, been relatively successful but are just tired of the rat race...Thats what it is over here. you're constantly chasing the wheel like a hamster, even after you've attained what back home will be considered career success. Lazima uendelee ku kimbia ama you fall off. Please do yourself and your family a favor and stay in kenya, you will be much better off. when you move to majuu, be prepared to give up at least 3 years of your life (ASK YOURSELF WHY GUYS WHO GO TO MAJUU TAKE SO MANY YEARS BEFORE THEY CAN CO0ME AND VISIT?). DONT BUY THE VENEER THAT GUYS SELL WHEN THEY COME HOME NA KUFLOSS SAA ZOTE. I cant speak for canada, but stato is littered with guys who look just like you who have never and cant visit home acha idealism hapa..mimi nakupatia the real... whether you come here with a green card as I did or a student visa ama hata mgeni and you try to game the system. you will lose productive years of your life. Years that with that you could have doubled if not tripled that 700k. Hata ukiwa na green card it takes guys here a while before they get acclimated to how things run here, how to converse and be understood etc. you will need to get a place to stay cause this is not like kenya where relas let you crash at their place for ever. Hapa your uncle, maybe even your bro is trying to get you out the door as soon as you score your first, fast food ama warehouse job. BTW those are the only jobs you will probably get beside kuosha wa mama, since all your degrees and certificates might as well be toilet paper here. Rent si mchezo unless una taka kuishi kwa hood. And I live in the south where our rents are the some of the lowest in the country. You will then be forced to work two jobs as someone else mentioned proudly (I dont know why he's proud of that). In the beginning it will seem like fun, you can work two even three jobs and make money, but it wears off fast, like someone else noted those who are excited about this are still "newbies". Human beings are social animals and you can only work 16-18 hour days for so long before you burn out . Not counting the time it takes you to drive to and from work and with only 24 hours in a day youre only left with about 6-8, to shower sleep and be human. which brings me to my next point (FRIENDS AND FAMILY) Life is more than just about money. As someone else pointed out, forget the ka local yako where you normally drop by for kamoja tu baada ya kazi. here you ka local will be you and your 6 pack at home, hakuna mtu ako na time ya kuhang out saa zote, kila mtu is chasing overtime. The bills wont pay themselves. guys patana once in a while. its a pitiful existence. Add to the fact that now youre expected to heavily contribute to affairs back home and the stress is heavy. Kama uko na watoto, when do you see them, ukienda job, wame lala, by the time wanatoka chou uko job ingine already, ukitoka job wamesha lala....also ask yourself...WHY DOES IT TAKE DIASPORA GUYS FOREVER TO GET MARRIED???NA WALE WAME MARIKA NI DOMESTIC PROBLEMS TUPU. even guys who had good relationships with their spouses get here and problems zina anza. Its because life ya hapa iko na stress na the only person you're constantly seeing is your spouse so unamtolea hasira saa zote. I dont mean by shouting ama being abusive. but even subtle things add up over time mpaka watu wana divorce. Not to mention you dont see each other to spend 'quality time' so the guy at her job who she pours her heart out to starts looking attractive. This goes both ways BTW....The same thing happens to single people, every chick or guy you date ndio una tolea hasira na mna onana once in a while. I have relas who work in Naks and the wife lives in nai, on some months i know anaona wife yake more than I see my galfie....If youre single also consider the dating pool here is smaller, so EVERY CHICK you approach amekua dame ya mtu hapa at some point. Someone you know and you probably pint with maybe even your rela ame kagua hizo vitu. Hapa ni kama kukatiana kwa estate yenu pekee, cause watu single wamekatiana wote. Like I've said up there, your degrees might as well be toilet paper, no employer is gonna take a degree from an african uni seriously, so you have to try and join a uni for a masters or bachelors to validate your other degrees, hiyo ni process ya kamwaka hivi ku join, and another 3-4 to finish that degree. By this time umeeshakua majuu for at least 6 years if not more. as I said before look around at your relas who are in majuu and see how long it took them to be able to come back and visit. And how long they can stay in kenya before they have to dash back cause cash ime isha na bills za huku bado zina ngoja. Like I said dont buy the 'floss' hype, guys sell when they come to visit. Na hizo hapo juu ni kama umekuja na green card. if you come as a student you'll have to enroll in your uni that sponsered you ama you lose you visa status and youre now deportable, na immigration siku hizi wako busy sana. Costs za kuregister hiyo shule uko nazo???? 700k is nothing...i dont know about canada, but in states, students cant work. Most do, buts its either you get a chini ya maji where someone pays you in cash and less than youre worth, ama you get someone to loan you their papers to use, good luck with that. Until you get a citizen to marry you na umlipe cash, ama you're able to convince some mama that you love her na akuoe for reals, this will probably take some time cause hapa sio kama kenya where you smile at a chick and shes ready for you to meet her paros cause miaka imefika. If youre trying to come as a guest and game the system....Buda boss. Hata kubaki ushago na ulime is better than this. Please ask more people before you decide. Not just your one rela in alberta, ask a few other kenyans who are in different phases of assimilating to majuu, preferably friends who wont be too prideful to let you know the real situation. That THIS PLACE SUCKS. Pride ndio ime weka watu hapa. When you move here you attain a certain 'status' you dont want to go home kuanza ku hustle tena so most stay, hata kama life ime wa chapa. Seriously, WHY WOULD YOU WANNA DO THIS TO YOURSELF?? Take this as you may, but im speaking from a lot of positive experience in the US,i've never had to osha wamama or whatever. Ive been lucky to have a few decent jobs and business has been good to me. Im speaking from the perspective of someone who has been relatively successful here, bringing in six figures on some years and high five figures on off years. i would take a 30k job in kenya at the drop of a hat over a 200k job here. I visit kenya quite often, sometimes as much as three times a years, every time my flight is leaving JKIA im like a kindergaten kid getting dropped of on the first day of school, sitaki kuenda...Kenya ni mzuri, kenya ni tamu Tupatane hapo iclub niki kuja unipatie kamoja vile nime kusave mtu wangu Thank you .I tried to help the brother but he is a risk taker . I'm in Kenya right now .I had my share of that rat race .THE ADVICE YOU ARE RECEIVING HERE IS FREE BUT A BITTER PILL TO SWALLOW.i wanted to offer him my contacts we meet I talk to him but you have told him what i wanted to hammer in his head.aamua mwenyewe . Brother, I might be coming home in April for part of the preparations for departure, I will surely look for you. Andaa invoice!!! hahaha Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
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