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OIL Officially found in TURKANA
Phaoro
#241 Posted : Monday, May 07, 2012 8:16:06 PM
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Can the local universities leverage these opportunities and introduce new programs in areas such as petroleum engineering, mining, fracking etc. With all the subject matter experts coming to Kenya, it is definitely a learning opportunity.
madollar
#242 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2012 6:40:10 PM
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more oil potential

"in Block L-8 offshore Kenya, Apache has identified eight prospects with net potential of 1.4 billion barrels of oil."

http://www.marketwatch.c...rce-inventory-2012-06-14
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#243 Posted : Wednesday, March 26, 2014 7:18:44 PM
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Been exactly 2 years since Kibaki announced we've discovered oilon 26th March 2012.
Those were really tough times. Inflation then(Feb 2012) was at 16.7% vs 6.86% as at last released figures for Feb. https://www.centralbank.go.ke/ A 10% drop.CBK had been forced to reign in on this beast by increasing the cbr from 6.25% mid 2011 progressively to 18% eventually in December 2011 and maintaining the rate in their subsequent meeting on 2nd Feb 2012 vs current cbr of 8.5%.
At the time of the oil announcement, we were at 3,300 levels on the NSE and despite great EPS growths of member 44% FY2011 and simba 34% same year, there was no way they were going to march those impressive figures with both inflation and cbr in double digit figures.The oil news was certainly God sent and this had a heavy bearing on the level of FDI as oil firms came calling.The NSE gradually started rising as the level of hope rose.

Fast forward to 2014 and though the economic indicators look favourable than they were then,maintaining say the cbr and inflation rate at current levels will not be a walk in the park as Government expenditure keeps rising with the implementation of the devolved government, and hence crowding out the private sector.Dont forget the FED taper and its implication on emerging and frontier markets.
We therefore need a spark that will excite the market,a eurobond or something like that otherwise the bears will make a mockery of the bulls in 2014. The technicals as evidenced by @Mnandii's Elliot waves and @Hisah's Fibo point to this.
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Lolest!
#244 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2019 7:45:42 PM
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Uhuru now says we've started exporting. 200,000 barrels at $12M
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newfarer
#245 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2019 9:43:29 PM
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please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?
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murchr
#246 Posted : Thursday, August 01, 2019 10:27:18 PM
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newfarer wrote:
please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?


It was said that the capacity is not enough to build a refinery.
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Impunity
#247 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 1:03:06 AM
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newfarer wrote:
please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?


Our old refinery, even if it was working, could not refine Kenya's crude oil; it was designed to handle Arabian "sweet" crude.

Building a new refinery to refine Kenya's crude at present production is not economically viable.
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Lolest!
#248 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 8:25:53 AM
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Impunity wrote:
newfarer wrote:
please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?


Our old refinery, even if it was working, could not refine Kenya's crude oil; it was designed to handle Arabian "sweet" crude.

Building a new refinery to refine Kenya's crude at present production is not economically viable.

I thought we import final product not crude?
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kenyan2019
#249 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 9:18:16 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Impunity wrote:
newfarer wrote:
please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?


Our old refinery, even if it was working, could not refine Kenya's crude oil; it was designed to handle Arabian "sweet" crude.

Building a new refinery to refine Kenya's crude at present production is not economically viable.

I thought we import final product not crude?

Thats accurate, we no longer import crude to refine. The end product from refinery was too expensive to be sustainable. We should have upgraded the technology at the refinery.....but it was never done. The refinery is now a storage facility.
watesh
#250 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 9:29:52 AM
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newfarer wrote:
please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?

Refining it here will be unnecessarily expensive without even factoring in the cost of corruption and other revenue leakages.
Ericsson
#251 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 9:47:02 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
Uhuru now says we've started exporting. 200,000 barrels at $12M

How much money will come to our coffers?
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RIEK01
#252 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 11:11:24 AM
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More importantly is, how much have we spent to drill then ferry the same to the port to export? Lets not just look at the sales proceeds, as i can bet that we have lost money.
KulaRaha
#253 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 12:31:18 PM
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watesh wrote:
newfarer wrote:
please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?

Refining it here will be unnecessarily expensive without even factoring in the cost of corruption and other revenue leakages.


Because the alleged crude is of such low quality, the best we can get is furnace oil.
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hardwood
#254 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 1:11:08 PM
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RIEK01 wrote:
More importantly is, how much have we spent to drill then ferry the same to the port to export? Lets not just look at the sales proceeds, as i can bet that we have lost money.


Hata wewe if you drill a borehole huko dustbowl and start selling water you would have "lost money" on your first sale.

This is a long term project. I believe that even in Saudi Arabia, a new oil field or well takes some time to break even. So tulia. At least we have 1.2 billion in our pockets. Not a bad start.
Wakanyugi
#255 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 1:19:24 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
watesh wrote:
newfarer wrote:
please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?

Refining it here will be unnecessarily expensive without even factoring in the cost of corruption and other revenue leakages.


Because the alleged crude is of such low quality, the best we can get is furnace oil.


Not true.

Kenya's oil is among the best globally
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kenyan2019
#256 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 1:22:18 PM
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RIEK01 wrote:
More importantly is, how much have we spent to drill then ferry the same to the port to export? Lets not just look at the sales proceeds, as i can bet that we have lost money.

Tullow sinks Sh180b in Turkana oil: Audit https://www.standardmedi...0b-in-turkana-oil-audit #TullowOil
aemathenge
#257 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 1:22:59 PM
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Can Africa (Kenia) break its 'resource curse'?

Many African countries are blessed with oil and mineral wealth that has the potential to transform their economies.

But historically, those resources have often been more of a curse than a blessing.

There are numerous examples of African nations where the discovery of natural resources has been followed by economic instability, conflict, and environmental damage.

So common is the phenomenon that it even has its own name -- the "resource curse."

Michael T. Klare is a professor of peace and world security studies at Hampshire College in Massachusetts, United States, and the author of the books "Resource Wars" and "Blood and Oil."

He told CNN, "'Resource curse to me applies specifically to poor countries that don't have a lot of sources of wealth, to begin with; then there's a discovery of a major resource -- oil or copper or gold -- that suddenly becomes a major source of wealth for that country.

It leads to the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few.

--Michael T. Klare, author "Resource Wars"

"Theoretically the development of that resource could produce great wealth for that nation, but historically it leads to the concentration of wealth in the hands of a few:

-- those who monopolize the collection of rents from the mining or the drilling for oil

-- and the exclusion of the majority from any benefit."

The result, said Klare, is repressive governments that cling to power, so they can monopolize the collection of resource wealth and an impoverished population

-- a recipe for conflict.

The resource curse is by no means limited to Africa, but the continent has produced some examples of the curse at its most destructive.

Government forces and armed groups have vied for control of resources, with the proceeds from their sale funding more weapons, which prolongs the violence.

Bloody conflicts in DR Congo, Liberia, Ivory Coast, and Sierra Leone have all been partly funded by the sale of blood diamonds.

Klare explained violence can also come about when minority groups in a resource-rich area feel excluded from political power and the wealth generated by a resource.

Sometimes, separatist groups try to claim ownership of the land where that resource originates -- such as in Angola's oil-rich Cabinda region.

As well as promoting conflict, extracting minerals and oil can also have a devastating environmental impact, such as in Nigeria's Delta region, the site of more than 6,800 recorded oil spills.

But resources can have a less obvious, more insidious effect on a country. Klare said resource-rich countries often become overly dependent on a single resource, to the detriment of the rest of the economy.

Equally, newly-found resource wealth can lead to corruption and cronyism.

Nigeria is a prime example, where the country's own corruption agency estimates between $300 billion to $400 billion of oil money have been stolen or wasted over the last 50 years.

But there are exceptions in Africa that show resources needn't be a curse. Botswana, with its diamond wealth, and mineral-rich Ghana have both managed to benefit from their natural resources.

Paul Collier is a professor of economics and director of the center for the study of African economies at Oxford University and an advisor to the IMF and World Bank.

He told CNN Botswana had benefited from having good leadership, a functioning democracy, and competent civil service from the time its diamond-wealth was discovered in the 1960s.

He added that if a country is to avoid the "resource curse" it must build an informed civil society that is aware of the kind of issues involved.

"There's no substitute for building a critical mass of informed citizens," he said.

"It doesn't have to be everybody -- sometimes just 10,000 people, but it doesn't mean just get a good finance minister -- it has to be a bigger group than one or two technocrats.

"It means building an informed elite of ministers, civil servants, business people, and civil society organizations."

To that end, Collier has helped set up the Natural Resource Charter, a website and 12-point plan aimed at helping the governments and citizens of resource-rich countries use those resources wisely.

As African countries discover new resource wealth -- such as recent oil finds in Uganda and off the coast of Ghana -- Collier believes they can learn from the continent's past mistakes.

"What's hopeful is people are much more aware of the issues," he said.

He gave the example of Angola, whose enormous oil wealth still has the potential to benefit the entire population.

"The stakes are enormous in Angola," he told CNN.

"Whether the present generation of children, by the time they're adults, will be living in an upper-middle-income society, like [oil-rich] Malaysia, or whether they'll be living in a country that's stuck in levels like DR Congo and Nigeria -- that's what's at stake.

"Angola doesn't have to be run by a bunch of suits, it just needs to be run by a bunch of people who are concerned by their own children's future."

Source: http://edition.cnn.com/2...source.curse/index.html
hardwood
#258 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 1:28:42 PM
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newfarer wrote:
please make me understand why we are exporting crude which we are also importing crude.why not refine and use locally?


This is like asking why a newbie small scale tea farmer doesn't build a tea processing plant on his farm so that he can drink his own tea.
kenyan2019
#259 Posted : Friday, August 02, 2019 1:33:39 PM
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560 million barrels at USD 60 ( If price remains stable) is USD 33.6 billion.
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#260 Posted : Friday, August 16, 2019 1:26:56 PM
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Kenya sells its first oil to China https://www.businessdail...7392-7c6jrnz/index.html via @BD_Africa
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