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The Housing Bubble in Kenya will Burst very soon....
streetwise
#121 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 3:27:24 PM
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Although we all agree there is hyper competition in real estate and that demand is so strange people at times seems to think owning the land is the end game I still don’t see what will cause the bust..

What is the cause of demand for land and housing..

1. Speculation

2. Foreigners rushing into Kenya to catch a bit of the wealth as the economy grows ( some find land cheap compared to where they come from).

3. Population of 46M people growing at least 2.5% per year.

4. More of lower income moving into middle income and can afford more luxury.

5. The UN bodies hosed in Kenya.

6. Kenya being the gateway to other EA countries there are a lot of transit residents

7. The fact that those with large chunks of land are not willing to sub divide.


8. Migration from rural to urban.

9. A Diaspora who want to invest in the country and can afford a bit more than the average local.

10. The fact that most of the new comers are knowing pulling into Chama’s and bank loans are no longer the only way to invest. Check out what is the % of real estate on mortgage.


Please continue.......
Othelo
#122 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 4:02:43 PM
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streetwise wrote:


Please continue.......


1.Kick backs which is cheap money not worked for therefore you can afford to throw it around - 10%!

2. Gova infrastructure projects inawacha pesa kwa mkono wa locals etc
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streetwise
#123 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 4:31:00 PM
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Jodaco
#124 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 5:00:44 PM
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Hi Wazuans

I have just joined this forum cause there's a lot of streetwise information here. My take on this discussion is that a bubble bust is not going to happen anytime soon. What we are seeing is an oversupply of apartments in a number of upmarket areas, but not across the board.
2012
#125 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 5:52:16 PM
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Saw some apartments in Hatheru Road going for 49m and some have been booked, so I don't what bubble we're talking about.

But on a different note I saw an article in Business Daily that either WB or IMF says Kenyan Banks have not safeguarded themselves against the rising bad debts and they could bring them down... could be from housing loans.

BBI will solve it
:)
innairobi
#126 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 6:39:16 PM
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2012 wrote:
Saw some apartments in Hatheru Road going for 49m and some have been booked, so I don't what bubble we're talking about.

But on a different note I saw an article in Business Daily that either WB or IMF says Kenyan Banks have not safeguarded themselves against the rising bad debts and they could bring them down... could be from housing loans.


Cant be from mortgages. There are more than 15 million bank accounts in Kenya and mortgages are way below 50,000.
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#127 Posted : Friday, February 06, 2015 9:28:24 PM
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Am coming!!!
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sanjom
#128 Posted : Monday, February 09, 2015 9:16:05 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
I can confirm from where I live the report is true,some flats have been vacant since august,you may think the owners want them vacant but no,they will take time to admit the sensible thing to do is to adjust rent downwards and stop living in denial its real



Are you saying that constructing MIDDLE CLASS apartments today is like investing in quail?
mlennyma
#129 Posted : Monday, February 09, 2015 9:21:06 AM
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sanjom wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
I can confirm from where I live the report is true,some flats have been vacant since august,you may think the owners want them vacant but no,they will take time to admit the sensible thing to do is to adjust rent downwards and stop living in denial its real



Are you saying that constructing MIDDLE CLASS apartments today is like investing in quail?

not really but the demand has slowed down and the number of vacant house's continues to increase, there was a time you couldn't get a vacant house without being exploited by agents dishing viewing commissions
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nakujua
#130 Posted : Monday, February 09, 2015 9:53:29 AM
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Boris Boyka wrote:

was this the case in Nakuru? a whole acre in the cbd - wololo.
Quote:

Some four years ago, an acre of land in the CBD was worth between Sh1 million and Sh5 million
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