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alma1 wrote:Kinaeleweka.
Next...Cabinet.
They can now continue making noise in the opposition. That's their right.
If nothing passes through senate or parliament how is it a win? 2022 imeshafika The Moi rejects won the elections in 2002 remember succession politricks is no joke "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Uram wrote:RAO should seize this opportunity- go for the jugular. It's a game of thrones and never personal. If you know you know. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Poor Wsr. Why did he surround himself with dumb sycophants ?
How do you start a fight with the boss 30 months before election day ? Its only taken 3 months for the boss to hit back hard. If Uhuru goes bare knuckles, it will be extremely painful for the DP.
The kanu defectors jumped ship 3 months to election day in 2002. Moi had no leverage to fight back then.
27 months to go, NIS knows where all your (corruptly earned) money is hidden, all your corrupt buddies, and you still go to war.
Let me grab my popcorns. We are just about to witness political and financial suicide in slow motion.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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FRM2011 wrote:Poor Wsr. Why did he surround himself with dumb sycophants ?
How do you start a fight with the boss 30 months before election day ? Its only taken 3 months for the boss to hit back hard. If Uhuru goes bare knuckles, it will be extremely painful for the DP.
The kanu defectors jumped ship 3 months to election day in 2002. Moi had no leverage to fight back then.
27 months to go, NIS knows where all your (corruptly earned) money is hidden, all your corrupt buddies, and you still go to war.
Let me grab my popcorns. We are just about to witness political and financial suicide in slow motion. Ruto is suffering the same problem of 'conviction by association' that Raila often does. He has tried to be very diplomatic with Uhuru - calling him my Mdosi, KYM etc - but the combative idiots around him can't keep their mouths shut. And they have a perverse incentive to do as being seen to fight Uhuru builds their base popularity back home, fairly guaranteeing them reelection. The person whose calculus I don't get is Uhuru. He has a legacy to protect, yes. But that legacy has a lot to do with securing the Kenyatta Family Economic hegemony after he has relinquished the reins of power. Pissing off people who have a chance of ascending to power after you, some known to be quite vindictive, does not seem like a smart thing to do. A hostile Ruto or Raila Presidency can do serious damage to the Kenyatta Family empire. Man Gidi might be a safer pair of hands, which could explain the rapprochement with Kanu. But he is not sell-able to the masses. In any case how do you get Kenyans to swallow the pill of dynastic self perpetuation? "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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murchr wrote:alma1 wrote:Kinaeleweka.
Next...Cabinet.
They can now continue making noise in the opposition. That's their right.
If nothing passes through senate or parliament how is it a win? 2022 imeshafika The Moi rejects won the elections in 2002 remember succession politricks is no joke In football they say,most strikers dont score when given too much time on the ball. They overthink and end up missing the chance. If RAO and team had left KANU in January 2002, UMK would have been president. Raila being the political animal played the surprise card. Remember all were expecting Nyachae to be the compromise candidate on the day Raila announced 'Kibaki Tosha' Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Wakanyugi wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Poor Wsr. Why did he surround himself with dumb sycophants ?
How do you start a fight with the boss 30 months before election day ? Its only taken 3 months for the boss to hit back hard. If Uhuru goes bare knuckles, it will be extremely painful for the DP.
The kanu defectors jumped ship 3 months to election day in 2002. Moi had no leverage to fight back then.
27 months to go, NIS knows where all your (corruptly earned) money is hidden, all your corrupt buddies, and you still go to war.
Let me grab my popcorns. We are just about to witness political and financial suicide in slow motion. Ruto is suffering the same problem of 'conviction by association' that Raila often does. He has tried to be very diplomatic with Uhuru - calling him my Mdosi, KYM etc - but the combative idiots around him can't keep their mouths shut. And they have a perverse incentive to do as being seen to fight Uhuru builds their base popularity back home, fairly guaranteeing them reelection. The person whose calculus I don't get is Uhuru. He has a legacy to protect, yes. But that legacy has a lot to do with securing the Kenyatta Family Economic hegemony after he has relinquished the reins of power. Pissing off people who have a chance of ascending to power after you, some known to be quite vindictive, does not seem like a smart thing to do. A hostile Ruto or Raila Presidency can do serious damage to the Kenyatta Family empire. Man Gidi might be a safer pair of hands, which could explain the rapprochement with Kanu. But he is not sell-able to the masses. In any case how do you get Kenyans to swallow the pill of dynastic self perpetuation? When you are in Lootos shoes you really have to consider that the aim for the Murathe's may be to kill Jubilee. Politics should never be taken at face value. You are kept busy chasing Jubilee chairs kumbe.... As long as the Kikuyus are not united, Looto is not winning anything. There is no other goal. When he gets that in his head maybe he has a chance. Right now, he's focussing on Gideon, Raila, and even a return of Uhuru. I doubt if any of them are running in 2022. Uhuru is in the self actualization stage of a human being. He only cares about his legacy. He will destroy anyone even his mother who tries to tarnish his legacy. When Looto gets that, he may go far. Wacha angangane na Tuju. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/24/2013 Posts: 455 Location: Nairobi
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Wakanyugi wrote:FRM2011 wrote:Poor Wsr. Why did he surround himself with dumb sycophants ?
How do you start a fight with the boss 30 months before election day ? Its only taken 3 months for the boss to hit back hard. If Uhuru goes bare knuckles, it will be extremely painful for the DP.
The kanu defectors jumped ship 3 months to election day in 2002. Moi had no leverage to fight back then.
27 months to go, NIS knows where all your (corruptly earned) money is hidden, all your corrupt buddies, and you still go to war.
Let me grab my popcorns. We are just about to witness political and financial suicide in slow motion. Ruto is suffering the same problem of 'conviction by association' that Raila often does. He has tried to be very diplomatic with Uhuru - calling him my Mdosi, KYM etc - but the combative idiots around him can't keep their mouths shut. And they have a perverse incentive to do as being seen to fight Uhuru builds their base popularity back home, fairly guaranteeing them reelection. The person whose calculus I don't get is Uhuru. He has a legacy to protect, yes. But that legacy has a lot to do with securing the Kenyatta Family Economic hegemony after he has relinquished the reins of power. Pissing off people who have a chance of ascending to power after you, some known to be quite vindictive, does not seem like a smart thing to do. A hostile Ruto or Raila Presidency can do serious damage to the Kenyatta Family empire. Man Gidi might be a safer pair of hands, which could explain the rapprochement with Kanu. But he is not sell-able to the masses. In any case how do you get Kenyans to swallow the pill of dynastic self perpetuation? Are you really a Wakanyugi? Umeongea kama wanaume kumi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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We have been vindicated, Jubilee was hot air party that was hiding behind everything Raila Once that ended they got exposed. Poor in everything, wasted 10 years of our lives. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Quote:He has tried to be very diplomatic with Uhuru - calling him my Mdosi, KYM etc - but the combative idiots around him can't keep their mouths shut. And they have a perverse incentive to do as being seen to fight Uhuru builds their base popularity back home, fairly guaranteeing them reelection. Of course Uhuru knows everytime Ruto men talk it's Ruto talking Common in Kenyan politics. Ask RAO how he exited KANU & NARC. His sidekicks would be complaining while RAO would be playing Mr Cool & downplaying all issues.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/8/2013 Posts: 4,068 Location: At Large.
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I could be naive but I dont believe that UK is about amassing wealth.His father amassed or made it and they have been rich all along,how much more does he need to add? If what has been trending on Ritos betrayal is true(Seeking to Impeach Uhuru and claiming he is the one running government coz Uhuru is drunk 24/7,then Uhuru is justified to hit him even harder) Then at the back of my mind I still remember Kiambaa.I forgave but it keeps haunting me,so maybe giving Ruto the presidency could be a grave mistake. Another thing is this,I am a firm believer in respect for authority and clearly that has been lacking from the TT side..Critique to your very best but do not insult authority. Love is beautiful and so are those who share it.With Love, Marriage is an amazing event in ones life time, the foundation of joy, happiness and success.
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