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young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana @vvs investing in KCB and co-op is a dream. He is DTB die hard Coop? Perhaps but not KCB until Russo does a clear-up. Muriuki has skin in the game. Oigara had peanuts. I do not trust the books. Equity > KCB for me. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Coop bank has never reduced it's dividend per share or even skipped.I&M management said they don't foresee a dividend payout of more than 30%,that is negative news and red flag. Coop bank also has also been diversifying away from saccos.They financed Centum for Two Rivers project,lead financiers for Thika Road Mall,formed part of the syndicate lending for Kenya Pipeline project. I&M they have lost the shine they used to have,there was a time they were position 4 in profitability,now relegated to position 7/8. In my opinion I see better days for coop bank compared to I&M. For DTB,I wish you the best,I don't foresee any change.They have never been generous with dividend so I see no change. Their lending policy is also very fishy,where the share price was before was just a bubble waiting to burst. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Coop bank has never reduced it's dividend per share or even skipped.I&M management said they don't foresee a dividend payout of more than 30%,that is negative news and red flag. Coop bank also has also been diversifying away from saccos.They financed Centum for Two Rivers project,lead financiers for Thika Road Mall,formed part of the syndicate lending for Kenya Pipeline project. I&M they have lost the shine they used to have,there was a time they were position 4 in profitability,now relegated to position 7/8. In my opinion I see better days for coop bank compared to I&M. For DTB,I wish you the best,I don't foresee any change.They have never been generous with dividend so I see no change. Their lending policy is also very fishy,where the share price was before was just a bubble waiting to burst. I do not follow Coop but that's good to know some banks have been consistent dividend payers! Equity dunga'd shareholders for 2 straight years. On Coop vs I&M... I am #TeamI&M and I see their regional expansion will pay off better than Coop in the long run. When was I&M #4 in PAT? DTB needs a push. I do not expect a huge dividend but better than 3/- for FY2022. A minimum of 4/- but I think 5/- Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Coop bank has never reduced it's dividend per share or even skipped.I&M management said they don't foresee a dividend payout of more than 30%,that is negative news and red flag. Coop bank also has also been diversifying away from saccos.They financed Centum for Two Rivers project,lead financiers for Thika Road Mall,formed part of the syndicate lending for Kenya Pipeline project. I&M they have lost the shine they used to have,there was a time they were position 4 in profitability,now relegated to position 7/8. In my opinion I see better days for coop bank compared to I&M. For DTB,I wish you the best,I don't foresee any change.They have never been generous with dividend so I see no change. Their lending policy is also very fishy,where the share price was before was just a bubble waiting to burst. I do not follow Coop but that's good to know some banks have been consistent dividend payers! Equity dunga'd shareholders for 2 straight years. On Coop vs I&M... I am #TeamI&M and I see their regional expansion will pay off better than Coop in the long run. When was I&M #4 in PAT? DTB needs a push. I do not expect a huge dividend but better than 3/- for FY2022. A minimum of 4/- but I think 5/- I&M was position 4 in FY2019 Profit before tax ksh.14.6bn and PAT 10.8bn Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Coop bank has never reduced it's dividend per share or even skipped.I&M management said they don't foresee a dividend payout of more than 30%,that is negative news and red flag. Coop bank also has also been diversifying away from saccos.They financed Centum for Two Rivers project,lead financiers for Thika Road Mall,formed part of the syndicate lending for Kenya Pipeline project. I&M they have lost the shine they used to have,there was a time they were position 4 in profitability,now relegated to position 7/8. In my opinion I see better days for coop bank compared to I&M. For DTB,I wish you the best,I don't foresee any change.They have never been generous with dividend so I see no change. Their lending policy is also very fishy,where the share price was before was just a bubble waiting to burst. I do not follow Coop but that's good to know some banks have been consistent dividend payers! Equity dunga'd shareholders for 2 straight years. On Coop vs I&M... I am #TeamI&M and I see their regional expansion will pay off better than Coop in the long run. When was I&M #4 in PAT? DTB needs a push. I do not expect a huge dividend but better than 3/- for FY2022. A minimum of 4/- but I think 5/- I&M was position 4 in FY2019 Profit before tax ksh.14.6bn and PAT 10.8bn I assume KCB, Equity and Coop were definitely ahead. What about SCBK, NCBA and ABSA in FY19? Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 10,804 Location: NAIROBI
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Coop bank has never reduced it's dividend per share or even skipped.I&M management said they don't foresee a dividend payout of more than 30%,that is negative news and red flag. Coop bank also has also been diversifying away from saccos.They financed Centum for Two Rivers project,lead financiers for Thika Road Mall,formed part of the syndicate lending for Kenya Pipeline project. I&M they have lost the shine they used to have,there was a time they were position 4 in profitability,now relegated to position 7/8. In my opinion I see better days for coop bank compared to I&M. For DTB,I wish you the best,I don't foresee any change.They have never been generous with dividend so I see no change. Their lending policy is also very fishy,where the share price was before was just a bubble waiting to burst. I do not follow Coop but that's good to know some banks have been consistent dividend payers! Equity dunga'd shareholders for 2 straight years. On Coop vs I&M... I am #TeamI&M and I see their regional expansion will pay off better than Coop in the long run. When was I&M #4 in PAT? DTB needs a push. I do not expect a huge dividend but better than 3/- for FY2022. A minimum of 4/- but I think 5/- I&M was position 4 in FY2019 Profit before tax ksh.14.6bn and PAT 10.8bn I assume KCB, Equity and Coop were definitely ahead. What about SCBK, NCBA and ABSA in FY19? SCBK Ksh.12.2bn NCBA Ksh.11.3bn ABSA Ksh.12.3bn Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Coop bank has never reduced it's dividend per share or even skipped.I&M management said they don't foresee a dividend payout of more than 30%,that is negative news and red flag. Coop bank also has also been diversifying away from saccos.They financed Centum for Two Rivers project,lead financiers for Thika Road Mall,formed part of the syndicate lending for Kenya Pipeline project. I&M they have lost the shine they used to have,there was a time they were position 4 in profitability,now relegated to position 7/8. In my opinion I see better days for coop bank compared to I&M. For DTB,I wish you the best,I don't foresee any change.They have never been generous with dividend so I see no change. Their lending policy is also very fishy,where the share price was before was just a bubble waiting to burst. I do not follow Coop but that's good to know some banks have been consistent dividend payers! Equity dunga'd shareholders for 2 straight years. On Coop vs I&M... I am #TeamI&M and I see their regional expansion will pay off better than Coop in the long run. When was I&M #4 in PAT? DTB needs a push. I do not expect a huge dividend but better than 3/- for FY2022. A minimum of 4/- but I think 5/- I&M was position 4 in FY2019 Profit before tax ksh.14.6bn and PAT 10.8bn I assume KCB, Equity and Coop were definitely ahead. What about SCBK, NCBA and ABSA in FY19? SCBK Ksh.12.2bn NCBA Ksh.11.3bn ABSA Ksh.12.3bn There seems to be something else going on. Perhaps the likes of ABSA & SCBK had taken large provisions that were reversed in later years. They have always been more conservative about provisioning. DTB is an example of a bank that didn't NPL & provision adequately a few years ago and then had to in large chunks. Look at 4Q2020 and 4Q2021. Anyway, I am comfier with I&M vs Coop for longer term EPS and Dividend growth. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Coop bank has never reduced it's dividend per share or even skipped.I&M management said they don't foresee a dividend payout of more than 30%,that is negative news and red flag. Coop bank also has also been diversifying away from saccos.They financed Centum for Two Rivers project,lead financiers for Thika Road Mall,formed part of the syndicate lending for Kenya Pipeline project. I&M they have lost the shine they used to have,there was a time they were position 4 in profitability,now relegated to position 7/8. In my opinion I see better days for coop bank compared to I&M. For DTB,I wish you the best,I don't foresee any change.They have never been generous with dividend so I see no change. Their lending policy is also very fishy,where the share price was before was just a bubble waiting to burst. I do not follow Coop but that's good to know some banks have been consistent dividend payers! Equity dunga'd shareholders for 2 straight years. On Coop vs I&M... I am #TeamI&M and I see their regional expansion will pay off better than Coop in the long run. When was I&M #4 in PAT? DTB needs a push. I do not expect a huge dividend but better than 3/- for FY2022. A minimum of 4/- but I think 5/- I&M was position 4 in FY2019 Profit before tax ksh.14.6bn and PAT 10.8bn I assume KCB, Equity and Coop were definitely ahead. What about SCBK, NCBA and ABSA in FY19? SCBK Ksh.12.2bn NCBA Ksh.11.3bn ABSA Ksh.12.3bn There seems to be something else going on. Perhaps the likes of ABSA & SCBK had taken large provisions that were reversed in later years. They have always been more conservative about provisioning. DTB is an example of a bank that didn't NPL & provision adequately a few years ago and then had to in large chunks. Look at 4Q2020 and 4Q2021. Anyway, I am comfier with I&M vs Coop for longer term EPS and Dividend growth. And that has been the highest Profit for I&M,2021 when most banks had a good run that exceeded 2019 profit levels,I&M profit were lower than in 2019. I&M is heavily reliant on the Indian business community ties for local and regional growth which is the weakest link. Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
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Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Ericsson wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:young wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:FY 2022 Dividend Estimates Some eg Centum (YE Mar 22) will likely be paid in 2022. Some eg C&G (YE Sep 22) may pay in late 2022 or early 2023 Others eg SCBK and BAT (YE Dec 22) will pay an interim in 2022 and the final in 2023.
BAT 55 (5+50) SCBK 20 (5+15) C&G 2 (post-bonus) CARB 1.50 (incl Special Dividend) Longhorn 0.25 Centum 1.20 ABSA 1.25 (0.25+1) Equity 5 KenyaRe 0.20 I&M 1.75 DTB 5
I will update the above as results are released.
Centum by 31 July 1H for banks + BAT by 31 Aug Carbacid by 31 Oct C&G by 31 Dec KenyaRe 1H by 30 Sep Longhorn by 30 Sep
Please add to this list dates of results release and estimates of dividends for other firms. Also if you think my estimates are off, please indicate why and what. Hi @VVS Just a suggestion Why not take the following action solely for high dividend income ? Substitute DTB with KCB Substitute I&M With Coop Add Stanbic by reducing some position in Equity REMOVE ENTIRELY Longhorn Kenya Re Centum (poor performance ) and use the proceeds to accumulate . Some NCBA Add more to Stanchart Buy few EABL (Diversification) Buy Safaricom ( At it's low now) Above will ensure you have a better dividend income spread and higher returns Ideally with the right mix 10m ksh invested should yield btw 800k to 1 million ksh not miserly 450k I read about. Ensure that the following counters have heavy weight in your portfolio for high dividend in order of importance dividend wise. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Above should constitute at least 70% of your portfolio for high dividend income as their pay out ratio is the highest in NSE. Note:- From my 18 years experience in Nairobi bourse (since 2004), capital gains is DEAD or a WILD CHASE . Dividend income is it Note:- I don't invest in BAT for ethical reasons but the other BIG 4 constitutes 80% of my portfolio (SCBK,NCBA,ABSA,STANBIC) . Be aware FY 22 COOP will return a dividend of 1,30 to 1.50 due to improved performance (Fy 21 ksh1.00) Asante Sana Thank you. I think DTB has a better chance of growth in share price than KCB. I do not trust KCB's financials and I hope Russo does a clean-up of the loan book. I see a path for I&M to grow and I cannot see the same runway for Coop. Its mainstay are SACCOs but what happens when members (of SACCOs) need their money back? I&M never skimped on a dividend even during COVID. I have Stanbic and Equity but the latter will grow faster thanks to DRC, TZ, UG, etc over the next 5 years. I am looking ahead. I have ALL of the below  but I am working on picking just 3 and trim the rest. SCBK has a great DY but ABSA I believe will grow its EPS and DPS faster. Stanbic is now a pure dividend play since SAHL has stopped buying. I might sell NCBA and buy something else eg ABSA or Equity. I love BAT. I do not encourage smoking but if you do, please use BAT products. 1. BAT 2 SCBK 3. NCBA 4 ABSA 5 Stanbic Coop bank has never reduced it's dividend per share or even skipped.I&M management said they don't foresee a dividend payout of more than 30%,that is negative news and red flag. Coop bank also has also been diversifying away from saccos.They financed Centum for Two Rivers project,lead financiers for Thika Road Mall,formed part of the syndicate lending for Kenya Pipeline project. I&M they have lost the shine they used to have,there was a time they were position 4 in profitability,now relegated to position 7/8. In my opinion I see better days for coop bank compared to I&M. For DTB,I wish you the best,I don't foresee any change.They have never been generous with dividend so I see no change. Their lending policy is also very fishy,where the share price was before was just a bubble waiting to burst. I do not follow Coop but that's good to know some banks have been consistent dividend payers! Equity dunga'd shareholders for 2 straight years. On Coop vs I&M... I am #TeamI&M and I see their regional expansion will pay off better than Coop in the long run. When was I&M #4 in PAT? DTB needs a push. I do not expect a huge dividend but better than 3/- for FY2022. A minimum of 4/- but I think 5/- I&M was position 4 in FY2019 Profit before tax ksh.14.6bn and PAT 10.8bn I assume KCB, Equity and Coop were definitely ahead. What about SCBK, NCBA and ABSA in FY19? SCBK Ksh.12.2bn NCBA Ksh.11.3bn ABSA Ksh.12.3bn There seems to be something else going on. Perhaps the likes of ABSA & SCBK had taken large provisions that were reversed in later years. They have always been more conservative about provisioning. DTB is an example of a bank that didn't NPL & provision adequately a few years ago and then had to in large chunks. Look at 4Q2020 and 4Q2021. Anyway, I am comfier with I&M vs Coop for longer term EPS and Dividend growth. And that has been the highest Profit for I&M,2021 when most banks had a good run that exceeded 2019 profit levels,I&M profit were lower than in 2019. I&M is heavily reliant on the Indian business community ties for local and regional growth which is the weakest link. Or strongest link. I would argue the SACCOs are simultaneously the strongest and weakest links for Coop Bank. Apart from SS - which is a mess - has it expanded anywhere else regionally? Is there any runway left for expansion in Kenya? FY20 & FY21 were affected by COVID so understandable that results were subdued. I&M isn't huge into personal/fuliza/shylocking loans but lend mostly to SMEs/businesses. I agree they can do better. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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