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NASA Resistance Army!!!
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#221 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:00:37 PM
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newfarer wrote:


Please remind them that the waters belong to a country called Kenya and that's why the Coast does not control or collect revenue from the port. I now see the wisdom behind the Lamu Port. Joho should have stayed in school for longer to know about the treaties Kenya has. But I agree, they should be allowed. The best I can see them getting if at all is the model of France/Monaco.

BBI will solve it
:)
Kusadikika
#222 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:06:40 PM
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Much Know wrote:
newfarer wrote:

No, let them go, this guys are a nuisance, its better to look southwards on long-term issues than trust this demons, they will shut up when the middle east issus are done, otherwise ni ujinga na makelele, let them go!


Ni upumbavu mtupu. Kilifi and Mombasa are not the only pwani because there is also Kwale and Lamu who are happy to be in kenya.
Much Know
#223 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:10:56 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Much Know wrote:
newfarer wrote:

No, let them go, this guys are a nuisance, its better to look southwards on long-term issues than trust this demons, they will shut up when the middle east issus are done, otherwise ni ujinga na makelele, let them go!


Ni upumbavu mtupu. Kilifi and Mombasa are not the only pwani because there is also Kwale and Lamu who are happy to be in kenya.

I personally prefer they go anytime before infecting Kenyans with a certain mentality found sana sana huko middle east, BABYLON.
Meru Holiness
Much Know
#224 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:16:22 PM
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Utambembeleza wapumbavu wa mambo ya majini na sijui uchawi hadi lini? At some point, some may have to go their separate ways, I won't miss coconuts.
Meru Holiness
masukuma
#225 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:21:22 PM
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All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
FRM2011
#226 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:40:33 PM
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Let me ask a question here. I know its pointless but I will try it anyway.

There is a section of the population ( >40% ) that has been made to feel their voices cannot be heard and they do not matter anyway.

When they try to exercise their right to picket, a right granted by our constitution and reinforced by 4 high court rulings, we have ended up with 67 dead protesters. All killed by police in cold blood.

And now those people have decided to take a more passive approach. They want to have their voice heard by saying nothing. By keeping off. Going by the reaction here and elsewhere, I can say without fear, someone has heard them loud and clear.

Apart from Uhuru, we know almost everyone else in Jubilee is there to enrich themselves at the expense of the state. Hitting their pockets is a the best way to send a message they will hear. By taking away the one thing they love most.

Kameme Fm has been fundraising for prople who lost their property in Kawangware. No word for those who lost their lives. Three of those who died in Kawangware were Kiuks. But to Kameme, property rights trump the right to life.

The NASA team are simply saying, "we beg to differ, the right to life is supreme above everything else."

Lets all sit back and wait to see how this goes.

My take, Safaricom may survive but the other two................
Njung'e
#227 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:48:06 PM
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The five phases after a loss.

1. Denial.
2. Anger.
3. Bargaining
4. Depression.
5. Acceptance.

The Nasarites are somewhere between 2 and 3. Ignore them until they are through all the 5 phases. Kuchapwa namna hii sio rahisi!
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
FRM2011
#228 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:52:14 PM
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During the civil rights movement, MLK got deflated in Albany Georgia. His movement was almost dealt a fatal blow by an intelligent cop.

Read it here.

"When the SCLC came to Albany, Georgia, the chief of police -- a man named Laurie Pritchett -- decided to avoid the traps that had ensnared his counterparts elsewhere in Dixie. Pritchett was a segregationist, but a clever one. Albany would have no police dogs, riot batons, or fire hoses. Instead, Pritchett would meet nonviolence with nonviolence. His officers were carefully trained to make arrests with minimum force. He contacted nearby towns to borrow their jails so that local cells were never overflowing with protesters. The arrests police made were for disturbing the peace, not for violating segregation laws. When King himself was jailed, drawing the nation’s attention to Albany, Pritchett arranged for his bail to be paid promptly. The result of all this maneuvering was a protest that generated very little news 2 -- and a segregated town that changed very little. Pritchett, went the saying at the time, had killed the movement with kindness."

Prof. Lukoye Atwoli says we are a society made up of very few intelligent people but a majority of dishonest characters.
Fullykenyan
#229 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:58:12 PM
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Location: Eastlando
FRM2011 wrote:

During the civil rights movement, MLK got deflated in Albany Georgia. His movement was almost dealt a fatal blow by an intelligent cop.

Read it here.

"When the SCLC came to Albany, Georgia, the chief of police -- a man named Laurie Pritchett -- decided to avoid the traps that had ensnared his counterparts elsewhere in Dixie. Pritchett was a segregationist, but a clever one. Albany would have no police dogs, riot batons, or fire hoses. Instead, Pritchett would meet nonviolence with nonviolence. His officers were carefully trained to make arrests with minimum force. He contacted nearby towns to borrow their jails so that local cells were never overflowing with protesters. The arrests police made were for disturbing the peace, not for violating segregation laws. When King himself was jailed, drawing the nation’s attention to Albany, Pritchett arranged for his bail to be paid promptly. The result of all this maneuvering was a protest that generated very little news 2 -- and a segregated town that changed very little. Pritchett, went the saying at the time, had killed the movement with kindness."

Prof. Lukoye Atwoli says we are a society made up of very few intelligent people but a majority of dishonest characters.


There are four different types of kenyans. Good liars, bad liars, big liars and small liars
innairobi
#230 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:58:58 PM
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people are taking these declarations too seriously.

1. on the boycott, it will be just like the demonstrations. expect parts of Nyanza and Western to boycott but 90% of the country to ignore. kwanza the boycott in those regions will mainly be driven by the threat of violence for distributors and small scale traders.

2. on coast seceding, hiyo ni ndoto. hata bila kuangalia the constitutional difficulties, coast region is a very fragmented and incoherent place. thinking that all ODM supporters in coast will support a sultan joho enclave is delusional. alafu they heavily rely on tourism. a chaotic agitation will effectively kill economic activity.
All my friends are heathens, take it slow. Wait for them to ask you who you know. Please don't make any sudden moves.
freiks
#231 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 6:59:10 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Let me ask a question here. I know its pointless but I will try it anyway.

There is a section of the population ( >40% ) that has been made to feel their voices cannot be heard and they do not matter anyway.

When they try to exercise their right to picket, a right granted by our constitution and reinforced by 4 high court rulings, we have ended up with 67 dead protesters. All killed by police in cold blood.

And now those people have decided to take a more passive approach. They want to have their voice heard by saying nothing. By keeping off. Going by the reaction here and elsewhere, I can say without fear, someone has heard them loud and clear.

Apart from Uhuru, we know almost everyone else in Jubilee is there to enrich themselves at the expense of the state. Hitting their pockets is a the best way to send a message they will hear. By taking away the one thing they love most.

Kameme Fm has been fundraising for prople who lost their property in Kawangware. No word for those who lost their lives. Three of those who died in Kawangware were Kiuks. But to Kameme, property rights trump the right to life.

The NASA team are simply saying, "we beg to differ, the right to life is supreme above everything else."

Lets all sit back and wait to see how this goes.

My take, Safaricom may survive but the other two................


Just hoping others will not do the same to products associated with NASA
Life is an endless adventure
Much Know
#232 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 7:04:22 PM
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The main objective of devolution, which I see as "decentralization", is so difficult to distinguish from a paradoxical " succesful" secession, only here you secure an already existing bloc Kenya, they are already govoners,that port will be abandoned very fast, and Mombasa will turn into a lawless, jobless drug infested town in months, with no money, it will take years, they will still need to make regional agreements again, etc this is infantile ujinga just promoting the foolish power grabbing that goes in the middle east, somali and Mali etc and creating small lawless States which then go back to assistance from neighbours etc, total stupidity in lust of power, the same story over and over, wacha waende mapema!
Meru Holiness
Fullykenyan
#233 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 7:34:55 PM
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Joho is stupid. He is killing any Little Chance he had to be a future president. This silly move will remain wuth him forever. What coast needs is EDUCATION. Once that is in place, they can controll their resources easily.
Amores
#234 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 7:38:06 PM
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Joined: 11/25/2011
Posts: 2,103
Location: Nrb
FRM2011 wrote:

Let me ask a question here. I know its pointless but I will try it anyway.

There is a section of the population ( >40% ) that has been made to feel their voices cannot be heard and they do not matter anyway.

When they try to exercise their right to picket, a right granted by our constitution and reinforced by 4 high court rulings, we have ended up with 67 dead protesters. All killed by police in cold blood.

And now those people have decided to take a more passive approach. They want to have their voice heard by saying nothing. By keeping off. Going by the reaction here and elsewhere, I can say without fear, someone has heard them loud and clear.

Apart from Uhuru, we know almost everyone else in Jubilee is there to enrich themselves at the expense of the state. Hitting their pockets is a the best way to send a message they will hear. By taking away the one thing they love most.

Kameme Fm has been fundraising for prople who lost their property in Kawangware. No word for those who lost their lives. Three of those who died in Kawangware were Kiuks. But to Kameme, property rights trump the right to life.

The NASA team are simply saying, "we beg to differ, the right to life is supreme above everything else."

Lets all sit back and wait to see how this goes.

My take, Safaricom may survive but the other two................


How is boycotting products helping to achieve the right to life?
I am happy
Jump-steady
#235 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 7:47:37 PM
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Joined: 12/1/2008
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Amores wrote:
FRM2011 wrote:

Let me ask a question here. I know its pointless but I will try it anyway.

There is a section of the population ( >40% ) that has been made to feel their voices cannot be heard and they do not matter anyway.

When they try to exercise their right to picket, a right granted by our constitution and reinforced by 4 high court rulings, we have ended up with 67 dead protesters. All killed by police in cold blood.

And now those people have decided to take a more passive approach. They want to have their voice heard by saying nothing. By keeping off. Going by the reaction here and elsewhere, I can say without fear, someone has heard them loud and clear.

Apart from Uhuru, we know almost everyone else in Jubilee is there to enrich themselves at the expense of the state. Hitting their pockets is a the best way to send a message they will hear. By taking away the one thing they love most.

Kameme Fm has been fundraising for prople who lost their property in Kawangware. No word for those who lost their lives. Three of those who died in Kawangware were Kiuks. But to Kameme, property rights trump the right to life.

The NASA team are simply saying, "we beg to differ, the right to life is supreme above everything else."

Lets all sit back and wait to see how this goes.

My take, Safaricom may survive but the other two................


How is boycotting products helping to achieve the right to life?


smile

@FRM2011 will find it very hard to boycott Kameme smile
masukuma
#236 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 8:02:49 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Let me ask a question here. I know its pointless but I will try it anyway.

There is a section of the population ( >40% ) that has been made to feel their voices cannot be heard and they do not matter anyway.

When they try to exercise their right to picket, a right granted by our constitution and reinforced by 4 high court rulings, we have ended up with 67 dead protesters. All killed by police in cold blood.

And now those people have decided to take a more passive approach. They want to have their voice heard by saying nothing. By keeping off. Going by the reaction here and elsewhere, I can say without fear, someone has heard them loud and clear.

Apart from Uhuru, we know almost everyone else in Jubilee is there to enrich themselves at the expense of the state. Hitting their pockets is a the best way to send a message they will hear. By taking away the one thing they love most.

Kameme Fm has been fundraising for prople who lost their property in Kawangware. No word for those who lost their lives. Three of those who died in Kawangware were Kiuks. But to Kameme, property rights trump the right to life.

The NASA team are simply saying, "we beg to differ, the right to life is supreme above everything else."

Lets all sit back and wait to see how this goes.

My take, Safaricom may survive but the other two................


I get it... it's the subtler aspects of rights (a great idea by the way... very fictional but great!!). At what points do your rights end and mine begin? what should I do to communicate that - you have crossed the line ESPECIALLY to others who may attempt to cross it later? a slap on the wrist? a punch in the face? or.... death? and who does this 'enforcement'. Let's talk soberly - what do you do to a bunch of people who don't respect property rights?
Societies that progressed at one time drew a line using laws that supported this


Do you know why property rights are sacred? unlike say - opinion rights... Property is an extension of the person. A person's life is all about stacking this... based on the decisions/choices they take... the penalties the pay... the hours the put in... the sacrifices... the personal costs... people need to understand that some of the business they run over... plunder are like children of the owner.. like young babies always asking for attention... never giving the owner a break. anyone who has ever lifted a finger to start something knows this... COST


so forgive me if I don't empathize when a looter gets shot...
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
harrydre
#237 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 8:03:47 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
The five phases after a loss.

1. Denial.
2. Anger.
3. Bargaining
4. Depression.
5. Acceptance.

The Nasarites are somewhere between 2 and 3. Ignore them until they are through all the 5 phases. Kuchapwa namna hii sio rahisi!


When it rains it pours, now NRM can't access a coin from political party fund. 1% of vote doesn't count. Orengo better hide.

https://www.the-star.co....a-parties-cash_c1663568
i.am.back!!!!
harrydre
#238 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 8:14:12 PM
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Kusadikika wrote:
Much Know wrote:
newfarer wrote:

No, let them go, this guys are a nuisance, its better to look southwards on long-term issues than trust this demons, they will shut up when the middle east issus are done, otherwise ni ujinga na makelele, let them go!


Ni upumbavu mtupu. Kilifi and Mombasa are not the only pwani because there is also Kwale and Lamu who are happy to be in kenya.


Agreed. what percentage do they contribute towards GDP? They actually take from the rest of the country. Port ikienda Lamu, that's the death of Mombasa.

Nyanza should be next.
i.am.back!!!!
Ryko
#239 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 8:49:59 PM
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and the way Mombasa is dirty & filthy, it rains for two hours and every place floods. Now imagine after they separate!! Africa biggest slum loading.....


I work so I can afford the amount of alcohol required to continue going to work
Bigchick
#240 Posted : Friday, November 03, 2017 9:07:48 PM
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FRM2011 wrote:

Let me ask a question here. I know its pointless but I will try it anyway.

There is a section of the population ( >40% ) that has been made to feel their voices cannot be heard and they do not matter anyway.

When they try to exercise their right to picket, a right granted by our constitution and reinforced by 4 high court rulings, we have ended up with 67 dead protesters. All killed by police in cold blood.

And now those people have decided to take a more passive approach. They want to have their voice heard by saying nothing. By keeping off. Going by the reaction here and elsewhere, I can say without fear, someone has heard them loud and clear.

Apart from Uhuru, we know almost everyone else in Jubilee is there to enrich themselves at the expense of the state. Hitting their pockets is a the best way to send a message they will hear. By taking away the one thing they love most.

Kameme Fm has been fundraising for prople who lost their property in Kawangware. No word for those who lost their lives. Three of those who died in Kawangware were Kiuks. But to Kameme, property rights trump the right to life.

The NASA team are simply saying,
"we beg to differ, the right to life is supreme above everything else."

Lets all sit back and wait to see how this goes.

My take, Safaricom may survive but the other two................


What would you advise/recommend Kameme to do for the dead?

Am sure as a kiuk you know "Mathiko matietanagiruo".That is well taken care of.

The appeal is to return life to normal for the arson cases.The dead will be laid to rest and there is a system/mechanism for that.
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