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Making the Ugali Machine
masukuma
#111 Posted : Thursday, October 01, 2015 9:50:06 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.

Exactly... so far we have been focusing on the device and not the environment it will operate in. Kinda reminds me of the Legendary Pets.com... an it's crash... hey.. how hard can it be? it's a huge market.. america has 100 million homes... 75% have dogs and that means they eat dog food... this is a billion dollar industry! if we could nail 10% of these customers we are good!... and what is pet food anyway? it's dead cows in cans! All we have to do is create a website - a customer comes makes a request and we drop the dead cows at his door step - DEAD SIMPLE! hmmm.... then they discovered the small nuances around shopping for pets. The Ugali maker for "enterprise" has to co exist with current tech! moto ya kuni. Coz Will they use stima to cook the Ugali and kuni for mboga and nyama? By the way - why is there no stew maker? hmmm - I digress! I remember my high school setup... huge huge drum like sufurias and an elaborate fire system. how will you deploy your solution here? context is KING! How do you "plug in" your solution into that existing kitchen setup? My advice - don't try and eat the elephant in one bite! figure out where you are going to start - this is a learning process. P.S. customers don't care about your smell detecting system, hardness detection sensors. They want Ugali at less hustle and should not be considered expensive ugali! build from someone who does not eat ugali for some reason but would like to... labda wamama wazee.... they don't have nguvu to mix the thing! or someone... some widowers or lupita... build from there!
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murchr
#112 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 5:32:28 AM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr
#113 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 5:34:04 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.


Problem of thinking in 2D. Does your TV use Makaa of firewood? SMH
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Anti_Burglar
#114 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 9:10:30 AM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.


Problem of thinking in 2D. Does your TV use Makaa of firewood? SMH


I do not have a tv. However, I use makaa, firewood and lpg. Please make me a cooker using those instead of wagging your head around here like a mangy mongrel.
murchr
#115 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 2:27:42 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Anti_Burglar wrote:
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.


Problem of thinking in 2D. Does your TV use Makaa of firewood? SMH


I do not have a tv. However, I use makaa, firewood and lpg. Please make me a cooker using those instead of wagging your head around here like a mangy mongrel.


We're living in the 21 century. Nothing is made to use firewood or makaa as the source of energy. So clearly you aint the target market. And guess what? LPG can still be used as electricity. Do you charge your phone or power your computer using makaa? This was an intelligent discussion until you showed up Shame on you . Good luck with catching up
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#116 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 2:58:31 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
Anti_Burglar wrote:
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.


Problem of thinking in 2D. Does your TV use Makaa of firewood? SMH


I do not have a tv. However, I use makaa, firewood and lpg. Please make me a cooker using those instead of wagging your head around here like a mangy mongrel.


In 1894, someone wrote “In 50 years, every street in London will be buried under nine feet of manure,” since at the time horses were the main mode of transportation in cities and were leaving behind tons of manure. He had the same some sort of dead-end thinking just like you.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/...abdc0.html#axzz3nPWNx4f7
nakujua
#117 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 3:07:56 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 12/17/2009
Posts: 3,583
Location: Kenya
hardwood wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.


Problem of thinking in 2D. Does your TV use Makaa of firewood? SMH


I do not have a tv. However, I use makaa, firewood and lpg. Please make me a cooker using those instead of wagging your head around here like a mangy mongrel.


In 1894, someone wrote “In 50 years, every street in London will be buried under nine feet of manure,” since at the time horses were the only mode of transportation and were leaving behind tons of manure. He had the same some sort of dead-end thinking just like you.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/...bdc0.html#axzz3nPWNx4f7

@Anti must still be waiting for a steam engine car that is powered with makaa and firewood smile
Anti_Burglar
#118 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 3:22:54 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
nakujua wrote:
hardwood wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.


Problem of thinking in 2D. Does your TV use Makaa of firewood? SMH


I do not have a tv. However, I use makaa, firewood and lpg. Please make me a cooker using those instead of wagging your head around here like a mangy mongrel.


In 1894, someone wrote “In 50 years, every street in London will be buried under nine feet of manure,” since at the time horses were the only mode of transportation and were leaving behind tons of manure. He had the same some sort of dead-end thinking just like you.

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/...bdc0.html#axzz3nPWNx4f7

@Anti must still be waiting for a steam engine car that is powered with makaa and firewood smile


With names such as nakujua and hardwood you guys are quite something.

You guys must be feeling warm and nice and fuzzy talking like that. So I will humour you and play along. Just make the damn thing and bring it. You guys can do that, can you?

Unless you guys just wood brained sikujuas.

By the way, you say steam is ancient? You do know that Kengen produces that some electricity through thermal generators? Besides the naturally occurring one? You did not know? What else don't you know? Reality?

Anti_Burglar
#119 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 3:37:40 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 9/11/2015
Posts: 1,024
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.


Problem of thinking in 2D. Does your TV use Makaa of firewood? SMH


I do not have a tv. However, I use makaa, firewood and lpg. Please make me a cooker using those instead of wagging your head around here like a mangy mongrel.


We're living in the 21 century. Nothing is made to use firewood or makaa as the source of energy. So clearly you aint the target market. And guess what? LPG can still be used as electricity. Do you charge your phone or power your computer using makaa? This was an intelligent discussion until you showed up Shame on you . Good luck with catching up


You!

I do not know if you are just plain dumb or what. You are more hopeless than your minions woodbrain and sikujua. From tvs to phones and computers what about the damn ugali cooker? All except the ugali cooker. You are trying too hard to sound knowledgeable. If you live in your 21st century, make the thing and stop running your mouth like a frigging jackass. Your minions can provide you cheap unthinking labour as you make it.
murchr
#120 Posted : Friday, October 02, 2015 4:29:06 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Anti_Burglar wrote:
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
murchr wrote:
Anti_Burglar wrote:
masukuma wrote:
hard does not imply valuable...


But it brings reality after the fanfare. Like hangover.

If this thing is targeted at institutions and ordinary individuals it will have to use a typical source of energy e.g. firewood, makaa or lpg. Stima ikae kando kidogo. It will require it's own dedicated burner or it will have to share that burner with the ordinary sufuria. If it has its own dedicated burner, it will require you to have another burner for other cooking. If it will share the burner then the ordinary sufuria has a distinct advantage and there will be no debate that the sufuria will be preferred.


Problem of thinking in 2D. Does your TV use Makaa of firewood? SMH


I do not have a tv. However, I use makaa, firewood and lpg. Please make me a cooker using those instead of wagging your head around here like a mangy mongrel.


We're living in the 21 century. Nothing is made to use firewood or makaa as the source of energy. So clearly you aint the target market. And guess what? LPG can still be used as electricity. Do you charge your phone or power your computer using makaa? This was an intelligent discussion until you showed up Shame on you . Good luck with catching up


You!

I do not know if you are just plain dumb or what. You are more hopeless than your minions woodbrain and sikujua. From tvs to phones and computers what about the damn ugali cooker? All except the ugali cooker. You are trying too hard to sound knowledgeable. If you live in your 21st century, make the thing and stop running your mouth like a frigging jackass. Your minions can provide you cheap unthinking labour as you make it.


If you cant see the connection, you are beyond help. Now I have minions(do you even know what that is?) What are you even saying?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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