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mazingira
#111 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2015 11:48:09 AM
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Tourism earned Kenya serious $'s in the past but even this is being treated badly with the implementation of VAT on tour activities all Kenyan tour activities previously VAT exempt as they were treated as an export earning $'s have been 16% more expensive since 2013 September. 2013 September to date look at the drop in tourist numbers , yes we had security concerns but , how much more expensive is Kenya than , Bangkok , Goa , Marrakesh , Bali and Tanzania for the product we are offering
maka
#112 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2015 12:12:38 PM
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mazingira wrote:
Tourism earned Kenya serious $'s in the past but even this is being treated badly with the implementation of VAT on tour activities all Kenyan tour activities previously VAT exempt as they were treated as an export earning $'s have been 16% more expensive since 2013 September. 2013 September to date look at the drop in tourist numbers , yes we had security concerns but , how much more expensive is Kenya than , Bangkok , Goa , Marrakesh , Bali and Tanzania for the product we are offering


way up huko...we are expensive there is a Mumbai 6 day tour inclusive of return ticket @ 900 USD and the hotel is a 4 star hotel.
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lochaz-index
#113 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2015 3:27:56 PM
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mazingira wrote:
lochaz-index wrote:
Sufficiently Philanga....thropic wrote:
mazingira wrote:
1.00 USD = 98.7246 KES

The Greeks are sorting themselves out , the Americans are at record employment. Their economies will grow further and so will Europe as the cost of logistics and energy reduce.

In Kenya we have the opposite , the balance of payments in in a huge defeceit as we are a BIG importer and low value exporter . The government just taxed us more on fuel the dollar is going to touch 100/- no doubt there.

We are in a system where the government needs to borrow every year more and more , they are strangling liquidity people cannot pay debts. Expenses are on the rise, their is money flight from the markets

bad news all round

I just think that was a very dumb move by GoK signalling higher inflation, weaker KES, higher yields.
Now MPC will have to raise the cbr by a further 300bps or so to tame the USD bulls....well at the expense of the economy/NSE. The crowding out effect is underway.
#PainInThePocket


Cbk guys have only one trump card in the name of the IMF loan, once they have played that card(which should be soon)then the slide of the KES is going to be spectacular.The drop could occur as cost push inflation caused by the fuel levy and poor crop harvests kicks in.Mopping of liquidity and hiking of the CBR can only achieve short term results.



Question when the IMF lends Kenya this cash , im sure there is interest and we have to repay , don't we ? Doesn't this in turn mean even more money leaving Kenya? How heavily is the GOK locally , the monetary policy of mopping up cash is going to hurt businesses only people with overly large fixed deposits of 250mn plus love it when interest rates are hiked as they cash in like one arm bandit paying out a jackpot. Even this is unsustainable because Kenyans cant afford to borrow at excessively high rate , defaulting increases banks under pressure tighten their belts. Economic growth potential shrinks , government comes under pressure to raise money for running country . Vicious circle. what i agree with i seea very weak KES in the near future and dire times for businesses


The loan money is already in our coffers and it was undertaken for the very specific purpose of shoring the KES. As it stands, it's a question of when it will be used rather than if it will be used. All in all it makes a bad situation worse once the repayments become due.
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VituVingiSana
#114 Posted : Wednesday, June 24, 2015 4:17:12 PM
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It's better for Kenya to have a LOWER interest rate than a 'stronger' KES.
A higher interest rate will hurt more people [the Kenyan firms and individuals who have taken loans in KES] than a weaker KES. Some items e.g. fuel are necessary but the pass-through inflation is manageable. As is, trying to 'protect' the KES is a loser's game for CBK.

A weaker KES will (hopefully) curb imports of toothpicks, coconut milk, twinings tea, biscuits, canned maize, etc while giving a boost to local manufacturers & exporters. Furthermore, many firms/buyers will start looking at local alternatives for many products.

The USD borrowed from the IMF or Banks will have to be repaid in USD. So propping up the KES today just benefits those who buy USD today using KES & then wait until the crap hits the fan when CBK/GoK starts buying USD to repay the loans.
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butterflyke
#115 Posted : Thursday, June 25, 2015 9:10:34 AM
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maka wrote:
mazingira wrote:
Tourism earned Kenya serious $'s in the past but even this is being treated badly with the implementation of VAT on tour activities all Kenyan tour activities previously VAT exempt as they were treated as an export earning $'s have been 16% more expensive since 2013 September. 2013 September to date look at the drop in tourist numbers , yes we had security concerns but , how much more expensive is Kenya than , Bangkok , Goa , Marrakesh , Bali and Tanzania for the product we are offering


way up huko...we are expensive there is a Mumbai 6 day tour inclusive of return ticket @ 900 USD and the hotel is a 4 star hotel.


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mazingira
#116 Posted : Thursday, June 25, 2015 3:13:35 PM
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butterflyke wrote:
maka wrote:
mazingira wrote:
Tourism earned Kenya serious $'s in the past but even this is being treated badly with the implementation of VAT on tour activities all Kenyan tour activities previously VAT exempt as they were treated as an export earning $'s have been 16% more expensive since 2013 September. 2013 September to date look at the drop in tourist numbers , yes we had security concerns but , how much more expensive is Kenya than , Bangkok , Goa , Marrakesh , Bali and Tanzania for the product we are offering


way up huko...we are expensive there is a Mumbai 6 day tour inclusive of return ticket @ 900 USD and the hotel is a 4 star hotel.


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Have u happened to see the spreads that Indian or middle eastern even north african and south african hotels offer for a buffet . WOW , plus entertainment , plus shopping , plus sight seeing , plus restaurants for a while to get there but we need to look at our prices Kenya is too expensive , look at Jamaica its dead thanks to being expensive
Gatheuzi
#117 Posted : Wednesday, July 01, 2015 9:35:22 AM
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Greece Misses $1.7 Billion IMF Payment, Joining Zimbabwe's Ranks

http://www.bloomberg.com...joining-zimbabwe-s-ranks
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Gatheuzi
#118 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:17:31 AM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Watch out for highly geared companies. If debt is a high percentage of equity expect rate hikes to possibly erode vitually all profits.

Uchumi falls in this category. ARM needs to move fast to deal with the short term borrowings. Trancentary already planning a rights issue to deal with debts. Home Afrika may post a bigger loss as they keep digging themselves in funny arrangements. KQ - its obvious where they are headed. Mumias - already deep in debt and cant pay.


Rate hike of 300bps confirms my earlier worries. I expect 75% of firms above to give profit warnings this year.
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Mainat
#119 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:32:54 AM
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Its a significant problem that interest rates are now the weapon of choice for dealing with current account imbalances.
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maka
#120 Posted : Wednesday, July 08, 2015 8:36:57 AM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
Gatheuzi wrote:
Watch out for highly geared companies. If debt is a high percentage of equity expect rate hikes to possibly erode vitually all profits.

Uchumi falls in this category. ARM needs to move fast to deal with the short term borrowings. Trancentary already planning a rights issue to deal with debts. Home Afrika may post a bigger loss as they keep digging themselves in funny arrangements. KQ - its obvious where they are headed. Mumias - already deep in debt and cant pay.


Rate hike of 300bps confirms my earlier worries. I expect 75% of firms above to give profit warnings this year.


Things are getting thick...
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