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tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:
Home, is when the I controls the mind; not the other way round.
How now? Isn't it the other way round? Isn't self/I determined by the mind? Like when I describe 'I' I am simply describing a product of the mind? This is the essence of 'mental slavery'. Because you always follow what your mind is saying. But isn't that the function of the mind? saying what I should do even though the conscience lies dormant in the background?
But after you are born your mind has to be programmed for human living. But no one claims to own your mind. Instead you are told you are a projection, reincarnation or reappearance of some person who used to be. You identify with this and all the lessons and thoughts of your mind adhere to this 'script'. Well.. all existing programs have been put to test for proof.
Not all minds adhere to false scripts.Some are are programmed to adhere to real, proven and workable scripts.I have that kind of mind.
But the mind is a tool that should serve you in all things. But you can't. Why? The script. The training and socialization. Simple, Just put the script to test.If it works then adhere to it.If it's Bondage let go and seek a better one.
If there's freedom and truth, then one must be able to change his/her mental script. Or in Christian terms, 'renew your mind'. And this renewal of the mind comes by first accepting the 'RENEWER'in your life because He transforms the mind.
The work of the mind is to create reality, not to conform to it. The mind is dynamic machine. Even when you're confused it's churning more things that add to your confusion. The mind doesn't know your ego. Your consciousness is following a time tested script, but the mind goes beyond time. Freud could just call it 'it'. The ego is always reactive, because it can't see the mind. Look at yourself and everything you are experiencing, your mind has created it even @tycho or @Mukiri. But this takes us back to fear. Because the mind is inscrutable the ego must fear. That's why it has a script. And that's why it clings to the script like in the 'rich young ruler'. If your mind has a script, then it must preserve it. You must be a slave. But you need an empty script if you want to move with the mind or 'it'. The ego's attempts to move with the mind create the conscience or 'super ego' a most corrupting influence in Man.
If the ego can't liberate itself from a script then it can never be free. And what script would a liberator have? No script. So that you can script yourself. So who are you? Where are you? The conflicts we have, are a result of conflict between who you are, and who you think you are. We go back to the 'I'.Is there a need to define yourself and what parameters would one use because parameters are also part of the 'problem' for lack of a better word.
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Mukiri wrote:Magigi wrote:Lolest! wrote:digitek1 wrote:McReggae wrote:Muriel wrote:McReggae wrote:King G wrote:Why am i having a headache reading this thread  That will always happen once you spot some characters!!!! Which characters? They used to be three....nowadays they seem to be four!!!  sasa atakuwa man goddess ama woman god 1. 2. 3. 4. And it's energized when it attacks the 'pastor'  With its pack. You never can ever move on from your miasma and mire, true of the proverbial pig. How? When your feet are ever in your mouth. Don't take them out!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:
Home, is when the I controls the mind; not the other way round.
How now? Isn't it the other way round? Isn't self/I determined by the mind? Like when I describe 'I' I am simply describing a product of the mind? This is the essence of 'mental slavery'. Because you always follow what your mind is saying. But isn't that the function of the mind? saying what I should do even though the conscience lies dormant in the background?
But after you are born your mind has to be programmed for human living. But no one claims to own your mind. Instead you are told you are a projection, reincarnation or reappearance of some person who used to be. You identify with this and all the lessons and thoughts of your mind adhere to this 'script'. Well.. all existing programs have been put to test for proof.
Not all minds adhere to false scripts.Some are are programmed to adhere to real, proven and workable scripts.I have that kind of mind.
But the mind is a tool that should serve you in all things. But you can't. Why? The script. The training and socialization. Simple, Just put the script to test.If it works then adhere to it.If it's Bondage let go and seek a better one.
If there's freedom and truth, then one must be able to change his/her mental script. Or in Christian terms, 'renew your mind'. And this renewal of the mind comes by first accepting the 'RENEWER'in your life because He transforms the mind.
The work of the mind is to create reality, not to conform to it. The mind is dynamic machine. Even when you're confused it's churning more things that add to your confusion. The mind doesn't know your ego. Your consciousness is following a time tested script, but the mind goes beyond time. Freud could just call it 'it'. The ego is always reactive, because it can't see the mind. Look at yourself and everything you are experiencing, your mind has created it even @tycho or @Mukiri. But this takes us back to fear. Because the mind is inscrutable the ego must fear. That's why it has a script. And that's why it clings to the script like in the 'rich young ruler'. If your mind has a script, then it must preserve it. You must be a slave. But you need an empty script if you want to move with the mind or 'it'. The ego's attempts to move with the mind create the conscience or 'super ego' a most corrupting influence in Man.
If the ego can't liberate itself from a script then it can never be free. And what script would a liberator have? No script. So that you can script yourself. So who are you? Where are you? The conflicts we have, are a result of conflict between who you are, and who you think you are. We go back to the 'I'.Is there a need to define yourself and what parameters would one use because parameters are also part of the 'problem' for lack of a better word. The need to define the self, and the parameters involved are one thing; energy. The whole is an energy system with many subsystems. This implies optimal conditions for being. These conditions entail a balance with the whole universe. 'Nature'. Nature is a pattern of energic behavior across systems. And since the ego is an energy system, it must find the pattern. And the pattern must translate to the physical plane. Then to institutions, and relations.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:
Home, is when the I controls the mind; not the other way round.
How now? Isn't it the other way round? Isn't self/I determined by the mind? Like when I describe 'I' I am simply describing a product of the mind? This is the essence of 'mental slavery'. Because you always follow what your mind is saying. But isn't that the function of the mind? saying what I should do even though the conscience lies dormant in the background?
But after you are born your mind has to be programmed for human living. But no one claims to own your mind. Instead you are told you are a projection, reincarnation or reappearance of some person who used to be. You identify with this and all the lessons and thoughts of your mind adhere to this 'script'. Well.. all existing programs have been put to test for proof.
Not all minds adhere to false scripts.Some are are programmed to adhere to real, proven and workable scripts.I have that kind of mind.
But the mind is a tool that should serve you in all things. But you can't. Why? The script. The training and socialization. Simple, Just put the script to test.If it works then adhere to it.If it's Bondage let go and seek a better one.
If there's freedom and truth, then one must be able to change his/her mental script. Or in Christian terms, 'renew your mind'. And this renewal of the mind comes by first accepting the 'RENEWER'in your life because He transforms the mind.
The work of the mind is to create reality, not to conform to it. The mind is dynamic machine. Even when you're confused it's churning more things that add to your confusion. The mind doesn't know your ego. Your consciousness is following a time tested script, but the mind goes beyond time. Freud could just call it 'it'. The ego is always reactive, because it can't see the mind. Look at yourself and everything you are experiencing, your mind has created it even @tycho or @Mukiri. But this takes us back to fear. Because the mind is inscrutable the ego must fear. That's why it has a script. And that's why it clings to the script like in the 'rich young ruler'. If your mind has a script, then it must preserve it. You must be a slave. But you need an empty script if you want to move with the mind or 'it'. The ego's attempts to move with the mind create the conscience or 'super ego' a most corrupting influence in Man.
If the ego can't liberate itself from a script then it can never be free. And what script would a liberator have? No script. So that you can script yourself. So who are you? Where are you? The conflicts we have, are a result of conflict between who you are, and who you think you are. We go back to the 'I'.Is there a need to define yourself and what parameters would one use because parameters are also part of the 'problem' for lack of a better word. The need to define the self, and the parameters involved are one thing; energy. The whole is an energy system with many subsystems. This implies optimal conditions for being. These conditions entail a balance with the whole universe. 'Nature'. Nature is a pattern of energic behavior across systems. And since the ego is an energy system, it must find the pattern. And the pattern must translate to the physical plane. Then to institutions, and relations. The conditions determine being.How then does one define the conditions or being?If I can ask that it's part of the pursuit of the pattern.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:
Home, is when the I controls the mind; not the other way round.
How now? Isn't it the other way round? Isn't self/I determined by the mind? Like when I describe 'I' I am simply describing a product of the mind? This is the essence of 'mental slavery'. Because you always follow what your mind is saying. But isn't that the function of the mind? saying what I should do even though the conscience lies dormant in the background?
But after you are born your mind has to be programmed for human living. But no one claims to own your mind. Instead you are told you are a projection, reincarnation or reappearance of some person who used to be. You identify with this and all the lessons and thoughts of your mind adhere to this 'script'. Well.. all existing programs have been put to test for proof.
Not all minds adhere to false scripts.Some are are programmed to adhere to real, proven and workable scripts.I have that kind of mind.
But the mind is a tool that should serve you in all things. But you can't. Why? The script. The training and socialization. Simple, Just put the script to test.If it works then adhere to it.If it's Bondage let go and seek a better one.
If there's freedom and truth, then one must be able to change his/her mental script. Or in Christian terms, 'renew your mind'. And this renewal of the mind comes by first accepting the 'RENEWER'in your life because He transforms the mind.
The work of the mind is to create reality, not to conform to it. The mind is dynamic machine. Even when you're confused it's churning more things that add to your confusion. The mind doesn't know your ego. Your consciousness is following a time tested script, but the mind goes beyond time. Freud could just call it 'it'. The ego is always reactive, because it can't see the mind. Look at yourself and everything you are experiencing, your mind has created it even @tycho or @Mukiri. But this takes us back to fear. Because the mind is inscrutable the ego must fear. That's why it has a script. And that's why it clings to the script like in the 'rich young ruler'. If your mind has a script, then it must preserve it. You must be a slave. But you need an empty script if you want to move with the mind or 'it'. The ego's attempts to move with the mind create the conscience or 'super ego' a most corrupting influence in Man.
If the ego can't liberate itself from a script then it can never be free. And what script would a liberator have? No script. So that you can script yourself. So who are you? Where are you? The conflicts we have, are a result of conflict between who you are, and who you think you are. We go back to the 'I'.Is there a need to define yourself and what parameters would one use because parameters are also part of the 'problem' for lack of a better word. The need to define the self, and the parameters involved are one thing; energy. The whole is an energy system with many subsystems. This implies optimal conditions for being. These conditions entail a balance with the whole universe. 'Nature'. Nature is a pattern of energic behavior across systems. And since the ego is an energy system, it must find the pattern. And the pattern must translate to the physical plane. Then to institutions, and relations. The conditions determine being.How then does one define the conditions or being?If I can ask that it's part of the pursuit of the pattern. You are the conditions.
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Magigi wrote:Lolest! wrote:digitek1 wrote:McReggae wrote:Muriel wrote:McReggae wrote:King G wrote:Why am i having a headache reading this thread That will always happen once you spot some characters!!!! Which characters? They used to be three....nowadays they seem to be four!!! sasa atakuwa man goddess ama woman god 1. 2. 3. 4. Among the 4 who don't you know.......can't you see the posts that have gotten people just watching!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Muriel wrote:Mukiri wrote:Magigi wrote:Lolest! wrote:digitek1 wrote:McReggae wrote:Muriel wrote:McReggae wrote:King G wrote:Why am i having a headache reading this thread That will always happen once you spot some characters!!!! Which characters? They used to be three....nowadays they seem to be four!!! sasa atakuwa man goddess ama woman god 1. 2. 3. 4. And it's energized when it attacks the 'pastor' With its pack. You never can ever move on from your miasma and mire, true of the proverbial pig. How? When your feet are ever in your mouth. Don't take them out! You call others 'it' @mukiri...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/19/2013 Posts: 2,552
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tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:symbols wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:kysse wrote:tycho wrote:
Home, is when the I controls the mind; not the other way round.
How now? Isn't it the other way round? Isn't self/I determined by the mind? Like when I describe 'I' I am simply describing a product of the mind? This is the essence of 'mental slavery'. Because you always follow what your mind is saying. But isn't that the function of the mind? saying what I should do even though the conscience lies dormant in the background?
But after you are born your mind has to be programmed for human living. But no one claims to own your mind. Instead you are told you are a projection, reincarnation or reappearance of some person who used to be. You identify with this and all the lessons and thoughts of your mind adhere to this 'script'. Well.. all existing programs have been put to test for proof.
Not all minds adhere to false scripts.Some are are programmed to adhere to real, proven and workable scripts.I have that kind of mind.
But the mind is a tool that should serve you in all things. But you can't. Why? The script. The training and socialization. Simple, Just put the script to test.If it works then adhere to it.If it's Bondage let go and seek a better one.
If there's freedom and truth, then one must be able to change his/her mental script. Or in Christian terms, 'renew your mind'. And this renewal of the mind comes by first accepting the 'RENEWER'in your life because He transforms the mind.
The work of the mind is to create reality, not to conform to it. The mind is dynamic machine. Even when you're confused it's churning more things that add to your confusion. The mind doesn't know your ego. Your consciousness is following a time tested script, but the mind goes beyond time. Freud could just call it 'it'. The ego is always reactive, because it can't see the mind. Look at yourself and everything you are experiencing, your mind has created it even @tycho or @Mukiri. But this takes us back to fear. Because the mind is inscrutable the ego must fear. That's why it has a script. And that's why it clings to the script like in the 'rich young ruler'. If your mind has a script, then it must preserve it. You must be a slave. But you need an empty script if you want to move with the mind or 'it'. The ego's attempts to move with the mind create the conscience or 'super ego' a most corrupting influence in Man.
If the ego can't liberate itself from a script then it can never be free. And what script would a liberator have? No script. So that you can script yourself. So who are you? Where are you? The conflicts we have, are a result of conflict between who you are, and who you think you are. We go back to the 'I'.Is there a need to define yourself and what parameters would one use because parameters are also part of the 'problem' for lack of a better word. The need to define the self, and the parameters involved are one thing; energy. The whole is an energy system with many subsystems. This implies optimal conditions for being. These conditions entail a balance with the whole universe. 'Nature'. Nature is a pattern of energic behavior across systems. And since the ego is an energy system, it must find the pattern. And the pattern must translate to the physical plane. Then to institutions, and relations. The conditions determine being.How then does one define the conditions or being?If I can ask that it's part of the pursuit of the pattern. You are the conditions. Interesting puzzle.I have to think about that.
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I nearly went into a coma trying to go through all this tychese posted here. Meanwhile, the list grows. .... Lets thank God for small favours......this would have been quite a dull day TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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