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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/25/2011 Posts: 2,103 Location: Nrb
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masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! I agree wit @ masukuma.And for those telling us about this and that country,well,most of the countries you talk about were built on or progressed partly because of THISI am happy
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! Europe n America were built with the blood n lives of africans n our resources. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! Europe n America were built with the blood n lives of africans n our resources. And why cant Africa build itself through its own blood and resources? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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USA = Unbearable Stress of America Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! Europe n America were built with the blood n lives of africans n our resources. And why cant Africa build itself through its own blood and resources? Good question Mr. Impunity
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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poundfoolish wrote:Impunity wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! Europe n America were built with the blood n lives of africans n our resources. And why cant Africa build itself through its own blood and resources? Good question Mr. Impunity if you haven't noticed it - that is what is happening now. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:Impunity wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! Europe n America were built with the blood n lives of africans n our resources. And why cant Africa build itself through its own blood and resources? Good question Mr. Impunity if you haven't noticed it - that is what is happening now. DRC is richer than the economies of France, Germany, Spain and UK combined, natural resourc-wise. DRC was inhabited with Negros at the same time Western Europe was inhabited by Caucasians! What is making it so long for DRC to develop to the status of France? That grey matter between the ears is not the same for both Negros and Caucasians.Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? this is where the issue is. This guy just sounds like he wants us to have self-pity. No solutions. Thinks that we should even hate ourselves for being fans of EPL. So we have issues, then? Americans discuss their politicians, when we do it here we are thick. The world over people watch EPL when we do it, we're backward.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:Impunity wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! Europe n America were built with the blood n lives of africans n our resources. And why cant Africa build itself through its own blood and resources? Good question Mr. Impunity if you haven't noticed it - that is what is happening now. DRC is richer than the economies of France, Germany, Spain and UK combined, natural resourc-wise. DRC was inhabited with Negros at the same time Western Europe was inhabited by Caucasians! What is making it so long for DRC to develop to the status of France? That grey matter between the ears is not the same for both Negros and Caucasians. <-- insult yourself and your kin all you want. We here believe that we have the same grey matter and its only a matter of time before we get there. African is not the only place where people are 'behind' Europe. Why do we have to be so negative about our skin? All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,821 Location: Nairobi
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After what Europeans did to us a couple of decades ago (might is right) then planted seeds of second guessing ourselves and being unsure of ourselves some of us seem to have picked up those lies very well. We are insulting ourselves our own children. What your statement is saying is that When you see a young african child who has just been born and is in hospital - already ako na kasoro or akili punguani already! reason? because Congo is not at the same wealth level as Europe. When you go back to your home tonight look at your child and tell them exactly what you have said here... they are buggy and faulty goods. that they are not like Caucasians nor will they ever be comparable to Caucasians. that they have been cursed at conception. All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/12/2013 Posts: 28 Location: Nairobi
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Siringi wrote:Watu nguyaz iko chida lets cut akina @kiask,@poundfollish @pundamlia etc some slack. Tufanye harambee tutume Dr. Frank Njenga nakadhalika kushughulikia shida majuu otherwise vijana wanadead. Let us avert the many harambees for funerals. And receiving our loved ones in body bags. Reading some of their comments nahofia it could be a manifestation of stress. Rink hapo chini. KENYANS IN AMERICA HAVE THE HIGHEST STRESS-RELATED DEATHS COMPARED TO OTHER IMMIGRANTSSome diasporans discussing here! waweke kwa maombi. Peace. How does 1 Kenyan occasionally dying in the diaspora due to stress related or domestic issues compare to: - 3500 Kenyans who die every year due to accidents in our roads - The number that get killed by thugs - Those who commit suicide in Kenya - Those who die due to inadequate healthcare or while waiting to be prayed for by Dr. Owour - Those murdered by cops (extra judicial killings)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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I have never doubted that on average, negros have the lowest IQ, whereas caucasians have a higher average, are highly inquisitive, aggressive, daring, ruthless and brave, thereby making them the most successful in the world over and above the Asians {have the highest IQ making them great learners, hence great copiers n plagiarizers}. This does in no way mean we are monkeys or subhumans, we are slightly better than some apes. Kiash remains a frustrated nigger whether he likes it or not, and mzungu will always look down on him. . TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/13/2006 Posts: 58
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IGAD blames living standards for Kenya brain drain LINK
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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masukuma wrote:Impunity wrote:masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:Impunity wrote:simonkabz wrote:masukuma wrote:poundfoolish wrote:masukuma wrote:I am wondering about just what the purpose of this thread is. Kicking yourself and insulting yourself? what is the purpose of this thread? You actually don't know? Let's just say in any other name it would have been called ' Killing the messenger' let's face facts... 1. Africa is not Europe or US 2. Africa will not get to the class of Europe or US in the next 50 years I want those who are complaining to face those facts! all this venting will not change the above two facts. so.... either come home and like it or stay there - munatuchosha na kelele zenu ambazo hazisaidii! Europe n America were built with the blood n lives of africans n our resources. And why cant Africa build itself through its own blood and resources? Good question Mr. Impunity if you haven't noticed it - that is what is happening now. DRC is richer than the economies of France, Germany, Spain and UK combined, natural resourc-wise. DRC was inhabited with Negros at the same time Western Europe was inhabited by Caucasians! What is making it so long for DRC to develop to the status of France? That grey matter between the ears is not the same for both Negros and Caucasians. <-- insult yourself and your kin all you want. We here believe that we have the same grey matter and its only a matter of time before we get there. African is not the only place where people are 'behind' Europe. Why do we have to be so negative about our skin? Where did the whites overtake us? Were they in this world a century ahead of us? Why? Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/19/2008 Posts: 4,268
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With 236 posts, can we list down how we can help move our country? It is clear we have two sides, those bashing it, and those supporting it. We all know we need to improve - even the dead improve by decomposing... so, how do we move from where we are to where we ought to be (better, efficient, honest nation).
starting with @Kiash...............(£20)
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2011 Posts: 1,325
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I cant believe this discussion is still ongoing with people justifying the originator's point of view. What this guy did is point out all the bad in Kenya, while glorifying the West, yet did not give any constructive ideas on how to get Kenya out of the rot. In short he came to brag of how he is lucky enough to live in the West, coz I don't see any other reason for this post. Its people like him who are Africa's biggest problem, if you go somewhere and see things being done better than at home, its wise to emulate what you have seen and bring it back home, instead of bragging about how much better they do it over there!!It doesn't matter whether you marry an American and get American citizenship, you will never belong!! That's a fact, ask Obama, even after being born and raised here and having a white American mother, half the country still thinks of him as a Kenyan who stole their White house. So people like Kiash can keep berating their motherland, the truth is deep down they are very bitter, because the America they glorify will never accept them as one of its own, and they think that they are too good for their motherland. Could be a case of Stockholm syndrome. People need to realize that America didn't just become a super power out of nowhere, I wish someone would put up pictures of New York in the 20's and 30's. New York was a slum back then, people lived in poverty, no water no electricity, a lot of crime and very corrupt officials plus lots of gangs like the Italian mafia fighting for territory, I would say back then NYC was comparative to Dandora. It took a lot of hard work and vision for the US to get to where it is now, I suspect if the Kiash's of those days would have had their say, Americans would never have developed their country but would have instead opted to return to the already established UK. If there is one thing I admire about Americans its their pride, no matter how bad things get for them, you will never hear them wishing that they were born elsewhere, they fix their problems, they don't run away from their problems then brag about how much better life is elsewhere. But as someone said, there are people quietly fixing Kenya while the Kiash's of the world brag about getting a visa, irony is when Kenya is fixed, the Kiash's will be the most "patriotic" Kenyans ever!! Its not like the US is paradise, I was just watching a show on CNN about how Stockton has become crime ridden after the GFC, ama CNN does not show such shows in Africa? You don't even have to go that far, DC where the world's powers lie, was a couple of years ago the murder capital of the world. As in there were more people murdered in DC than anywhere else in the world, not just in US! There are places in New York where you go at your own risk coz they gun down people like handshakes. Baltimore is just a scary place to be, I was literally clutching onto my purse Kenyan style, you don't wanna dream of going to Detroit or even some parts of LA, Kiash is not giving the whole story. I don't say this to imagine that somehow Kenya is better than US, far from it, its to show the full story. America is beautiful, but it has its scars, and they are quite ugly, just the same way Kenya has its scars too. Google Richard Nixon and read up on how corrupt he was, this was a US president who made deals with thugs and criminals from the Oval office, the problems we have now are problems the US went through back in the day, they can be fixed but it takes time, the problem is most people want easy fixes. On IQ, it always amuses me that people test intelligence on things that white people are naturally good at, what if IQ was tested on how many days one can survive in the jungle full of lions, no electricity, no running water, I wonder who would win that test?! The fallacy of the IQ is like lining up a lion, zebra, elephant and monkey, and testing them on who can climb a tree fastest, its flawed from the onset!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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Let me throw my two cents. Has @Kiash said anything out of the ordinary about Kenya? My answer is NO. I think what lacked in his presentation was style. The manner in which he presented his argument was off…But those are the facts. Those who are attacking him are doing so out of frustration…the fact that things are this bad and you can’t do anything about it. And for your information I have no intention of ever ever leaving my country Kenya…I can’t stand those people in the west…I remember once while at Paddington, London, I took a walk down the street. As I was walking I spotted the famous St Mary’s Hospital and remembered our own many St Marys this, that and the other……I kindly asked a Mzungu who looked like our City council askaris to take me a photograph with the hospital as a background… He surveyed me from head to toe and then asked, “Do I know you”? ... I felt scared and told him it’s okay…All the time I was there I never asked anybody to do that for me…Many of his own have asked me to do the same here in Kenya and I have gladly done it. Down at Oxford Street…I get into a restaurant and order food. The waitress asks me to pay upfront…I tell her to wait a minute…Wazungus come, sit down, place their order and she does not ask them to pay upfront…I call her back…Remove a wad of 100 UK pound notes…Return them and remove some more 100 dollar bills… I also ask her if the they accept visa cards (not credit cards) and show her three of these!I tell her where I come from we don’t pay upfront. She asks me where I come from and I tell her that I am the son of President Mugabe of Zimbabwe! …She tells me sorry and like a dog that has smelled her master from a distance, starts running up and down apologizing…I wake up and leave…So that is the picture I have of London…Other cities I have visited in Europe have been a bit friendlier…But that was the climax…And I vowed no matter what I will never ever think of ever relocating to any of those countries….
And so it is up to us to make the best of our country and stop feeling bad when mistakes are pinpointed. We all have a responsibility to right these wrongs…On the content of @Kiash’s issues, I agree, the manner of presentation, I don’t!!!
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Pictures don't lie, and the comments are interesting too! http://theselvedgeyard.w...ican-archive-hard-times/
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