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kenolkobil returns to profit in Q1 2013
h2s
#111 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:33:53 PM
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Even a new refinery will not be economical if its purpose will just be to produce fuels. Refineries make sense where there are petrochemical industries to take advantage of all the crude oil.
murchr
#112 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 8:56:09 PM
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Is the audit out to the public?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Kausha
#113 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:03:13 PM
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Certainly not a public document I believe!
VituVingiSana
#114 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:38:15 PM
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h2s wrote:
Why is it that no actual figures were provided to show the return to profitability? The industry is yet to recover, even Total Kenya have not announced their 1Q. More information needs to be provided.
CMA wanalala. If a firm issues quarterly results then it should be consistent. Unfortunately, in Kenya, it seems the CMA has no clue.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#115 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:40:51 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Reading KK was suspended end of last month from Open Tender System. @VVS, et al, ni-nini
Not sure of the genesis but it seems that KK suing KPRL for Shs 3.1bn has pissed them off. Anyway, let's see what happens in 19 days. The other OMCs have refused to sign off-take agreements for the next year. Without customers, KPRL is as good as dead. As a dying horse's last kicks, nyoike is trying to bother KK (as a gnat does) by using the MoE & ERC to suspend KK from the OTS.

KK probably claims the products it took from KPRL are those it is owed per the Deloitte audit. As a shareholder, I support KK's claim Applause Applause Applause
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VituVingiSana
#116 Posted : Tuesday, June 11, 2013 11:51:36 PM
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Kausha wrote:
Those with Insider knowledge know KPRL is between a hard place and a rock. Deloitte is KPRL's auditor and I believe they all signed a document committing them to the findings of the Forensic audit of yield shifts. Certainly even Nyoike who was the Head master and largest cheer leader of KPRL already admitted. We are looking at KPRL being shut for a few months. This is certainly what OMC are angling for. It operates, they will want to be paid 7B else no point pushing product through the a 'mkebe' refinery. Certainly if nobody blinks we will have a fuel shortage at end month, and I know this is what these OMC's are angling for.
OMCs have said KPRL is inefficient. If KPRL can survive as a Merchant Refinery without off-take agreements, then let it do so. OMCs should not have any reason to import fuel if the prices from KPRL are the same or lower than imported fuel. Of course, KPRL can pay up the Shs 7bn & make the problem go away...
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Kausha
#117 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:23:01 AM
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@vvs, omera, KPRL can't even pay 1B bwana! Those Essar guys are too broke. I am sure they are waiting for break up value of the refinery because government doesn't trust them to invest tax payers money. At least Orange puts in money and cons government!
Kausha
#118 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:24:17 AM
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@vvs, omera, KPRL can't even pay 1B bwana! Those Essar guys are too broke. I am sure they are waiting for break up value of the refinery because government doesn't trust them to invest tax payers money. At least Orange puts in money and cons government!
VituVingiSana
#119 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 12:41:23 PM
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Kausha wrote:
@vvs, omera, KPRL can't even pay 1B bwana! Those Essar guys are too broke. I am sure they are waiting for break up value of the refinery because government doesn't trust them to invest tax payers money. At least Orange puts in money and cons government!
LMAO. At the AGM, KK was clear. If KPRL defaulted, they were going to go after the storage tanks of KPRL. That's where the value lies. KK doesn't need the Shs 3.1bn [well, it is important to get cash] as much as storage capacity for fuel imports.
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Jamani
#120 Posted : Wednesday, June 12, 2013 5:36:31 PM
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By CONSTANT MUNDA
ESSAR Oil has indicated it will not allow Kenya Petroleum Refineries Ltd (KPRL) closed before it fully recovers its investment in the facility. KPRL chief executive Brij Bansal said the firm has yet to recover its “huge” investment. When it bought the 50 per cent stake from Shell, Chevron and BP in July 2009, Essar did not disclose the transaction amount.

The firm, however, disclosed the deal included a plan to pump in between $400 and 450 million(Sh3.4 to Sh3.83 billion) to upgrade the facility. The other partner – the government – has been largely mum over the push to close the 53-year old refinery although the regulator, Energy Regulatory Commission (ERC), has said the facility was a burden to consumers.

ERC has indirectly supported oil marketers’ push to turn the refinery into a strategic oil reserve. Long overdue Its recent damning assessment has shown that refined fuel imports were at least Sh5.83 billion ($68.6 million) cheaper than fuel processed at the facility.

Oil industry corporate chiefs have argued an oil reserve was long overdue to hedge against market fluctuations – the effect of which is a major threat to the stability of an economy dependent on petroleum products by more than 80 per cent.

“An economy of the size of Kenya that serves the region needs to have a reserve,” said a CEO of a major oil company who declined to be named. “We certainly need a refinery in future when we have our own oil but right now it’s better if it’s changed to a storage facility,” the source said.

The growing talk of a strategic reserve is, however, not new. In June 2010, the then ministry of Energy had publicly announced plans to set up a reserve that could hold fuel that can last the country three months.

KPRL top management, however, reads sabotage in the new push. The People has learnt oil marketers have not signed uptake agreements as they protest a rule that requires them to collect 40 percent of their fuel requirements from the facility. “We cannot push oil marketers to collect their stock push,” Bansal told The People.
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