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Graduate Salaries in Kenya : A Review
erifloss
#111 Posted : Wednesday, November 09, 2011 2:01:19 PM
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All that i've earned in my lifetime has not been coz of papers. Everytime i interview graduates one common thing always comes up, they don't know some basic stuff and demand for crazy salos as compared to guys with dips, certs and other professional papers. Nowadays i only take dip & cert guys coz they are easy to groom & efficient. Most of them pursue for a degree later so as to add on their papers while working.
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
Foreman
#112 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 2:18:46 PM
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erifloss wrote:
All that i've earned in my lifetime has not been coz of papers. Everytime i interview graduates one common thing always comes up, they don't know some basic stuff and demand for crazy salos as compared to guys with dips, certs and other professional papers. Nowadays i only take dip & cert guys coz they are easy to groom & efficient. Most of them pursue for a degree later so as to add on their papers while working.

..and the staff turnover with graduates is much higher
accelriskconsult
#113 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 2:53:03 PM
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This post has been turned into a forum for lumping together graduates as a greedy incompetent lot whose only concern is money.

I will go against this misinformation and report that I have had the pleasure of recruiting and working with very many bright, intelligent, unassuming and passionate graduates. I let each of these precociousyoung minds find their niche in the work place and shine brightly enough to illuminate those around them who have no light of their own. Of course I have had a few disappointments but then statistically, the number of graduate failures have been no more than the number of diploma failures.


Godfrey_Kabungo
#114 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 3:26:13 PM
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incognito wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:
[quote=new investor]Wazuans your comments are hilarious





I have a copy of the 2009 salary survey. If you are interested, I can send you a copy so that you can authoritatively state whether your skill is underpaid for.


kenyamerchant@live.com Send me the survey Pray . Am interested.



Send me a copy of the survey.... cubbungo@gmail.com

thanks
TUPAC
#115 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 3:47:52 PM
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Godfrey_Kabungo wrote:
incognito wrote:
accelriskconsult wrote:
[quote=new investor]Wazuans your comments are hilarious





I have a copy of the 2009 salary survey. If you are interested, I can send you a copy so that you can authoritatively state whether your skill is underpaid for.


kenyamerchant@live.com Send me the survey Pray . Am interested.



Send me a copy of the survey.... cubbungo@gmail.com

thanks

send me also at txxxxshakur@gmail.com
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sky5
#116 Posted : Monday, November 14, 2011 4:25:50 PM
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Kihara joni
#117 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 4:03:56 PM
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gohill wrote:
I once worked for a company where the boss used to tell us you are a cost and you should justify why i should not cut costs but if it's an essential cost even if it goes up i will pay. So every body had to work really hard to prove s/he is an essential cost. The rewards were good.

Exactly and graduates should know that you need some on job training even if you are 1st class honours, so start from somewhere, I always ask new employees what they earned from the previous jobs, if they are fresh graduates I put them on enough to sustain them (even pay rent & transport) if I get good work you get the full job if not you hit the door.
Rollout
#118 Posted : Tuesday, August 05, 2014 10:15:38 PM
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Kihara joni wrote:
gohill wrote:
I once worked for a company where the boss used to tell us you are a cost and you should justify why i should not cut costs but if it's an essential cost even if it goes up i will pay. So every body had to work really hard to prove s/he is an essential cost. The rewards were good.

Exactly and graduates should know that you need some on job training even if you are 1st class honours, so start from somewhere, I always ask new employees what they earned from the previous jobs, if they are fresh graduates I put them on enough to sustain them (even pay rent & transport) if I get good work you get the full job if not you hit the door.


Understandable if it's a bullshit company that no good talents want to work for anyway.... Any company that the hiring manager make such decision is a bullshit company.

I was offered $25k signing bonus and $9k to relocate, that was before I even had a badge to get into the building.
UpcomingPaperChaser
#119 Posted : Tuesday, January 20, 2015 11:12:34 PM
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So many factors determine how much a graduate will be paid.

1. a technical course like architecture, programming and medicine, you cant expect to pay a person 10k per month. some courses like teaching coz they are easy to do might deserve that

2. if you are a consultant and using the graduate to make millions of money, then you are indebted to pay him a lot, more than 100k if he brings you more than 600k every month. Like Quantity surveyors and architects.

3. its so obvious, a CPA section 2 holder or these diplomas, cannot outdo a graduate. in technical firlds like engineering, the diploma guy will beat the graduate in simple undertakings like wiring and changing filters, but go to the design stage and testing designing, you will appreciate a graduate engineer.

4. papers play a very vital role in Kenya today, my friend did Acturial Science, CPAk and ACCA and was immediately employed by KenyaRe with a starting salary of 120k immediately after college.

5. my dentist friend recently graduated from UoN and works as a part timer with some dentist in town, at the end of the day, he is paid 3k. at the end of the month the recent graduate dentist makes abt 160k, salo ya manager wa Equity Bank.

6. being a member of a professional body improves your bargaining power.

7. Online jobs are quite plenty nowadays, i earn a net of 50k and make 25k monthly working online after work.

at the end of the day, its not the money that will bring you happiness. live your life to the fullest, dress nicely, eat good food, exercise and watch and laugh and you will enjoy your life more than my friend who works in Britam earning 600k Gross but still lives at home with his mum!! munching a chic has to be away game for him!!
Enjoy every moment of your life, you never know when your time will come.
kysse
#120 Posted : Saturday, January 24, 2015 1:34:32 AM
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Yesterday.

Me: Hi what's your name and what exactly does your company do?
Graduate:Chewing gum at an exhibition stand and talking like she doesn't give a damn.
Well just take a brochure and see what we do
Me:Puzzled,I take some and begin reading.
Graduate:Is your company employing?
Me:Actually... we are restructuring and employing cost cutting measures, including lay offs where we have job duplications. No am not the employer
so ahead and apply since we have a reserve for cvs awaiting opp.to pop up. Who knows your lucky day.

Graduate:Does your company allow people to travel?
Me:To where?? and for what??
Graduate:Anywhere in and out of the country
Me:Ok what's your speciality?
Graduate:Psychology.
Me:Then why are you looking for work in this Industry? If I travel in the course of duty,it's because its part of my JD and I must account for it ,because it costs the co.
You dont travel at work as a hobby.
Graduate: Argh
Me: Can you serve tea if asked to do so during an interview?
Graduate: No way,I want to do what you do.
Me: Well you are joking. My first job,was in a cyber.I used to type,make phone calls,clean floor ,serve tea and wash toilet. 2 of us working in shift for a rich couple.I was earning something at your age.
Graduate: We are taught to aim high and think big,so how did all that help you?
Me: It was a bridge ,a stepping stone because when I got a call to work in a big office 8 mnths later,as part of the interview the boss gave me work on his PC ,he was testing my computer skills which I had perfected at the cyber.
I got the job.

Now stuff like cleaning made me humble and built a character in me.It made me respect and appreciate low level staff because I have done what they do.
But listen without chewing gum because it's considered uncouth esp in such a place full of potential employers.
I have been to places I could only dream of and dined with those occupying huge offices. The network as you go up will open doors for you. You dont have to be big, all you need is bread on your table! through humility and hardwork.

So when you are asked to do something sane, grab the chance .Most important is to get in.But let management know that' its short term for orientation purposes,good test for patience.

Graduate:Thank you .Will consider.

I observed the following in her;
Attitude
Reality
Expectations
Determination.
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