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Rank: New-farer Joined: 1/26/2014 Posts: 14
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mlennyma wrote:I can confirm from where I live the report is true,some flats have been vacant since august,you may think the owners want them vacant but no,they will take time to admit the sensible thing to do is to adjust rent downwards and stop living in denial its real Most guys pay deposit then follow up with mortgages. However, mortgage approval takes time and this is why many new estates take up to an year to get occupied. the owners are still following up with their financiers to get mortgages.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/16/2007 Posts: 2,114
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If I was looking for a rental house,'style' would least matter to me..I would be more interested in affordability,security,water availability,access road ..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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Real Estate is an area of my future intrest. I will invest here. That said,am happy to hear a stagnation or burst whichever. Actually I will be VEEEERRRRYYY HAPPY to hear a lot of office spaces and rentals from singles to 3b/rm. This will mean "we" nikiwa landlord we lower or maintain prices... With defaulters,banks will have to lower intrest rates for defaulters...consequently...lower morgatge rates....What is ailing us is the GREEED! The salary strikes we are experiencing in kenya is as a result of "keter" reasonig. Instead of asking for pay increase we should strive for high production of goods and services so that prices go down thus we all can afford at our salaries. Each kenyan hufikiria akiongezwa mshahara...ya wengine itabaki hivo ndio awe tajiri kuwashinda. I advocate for flooding of goods and services Manyumba leading so as to stabilize. This craze of ours explains why our colonial time peers are doing well. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/24/2010 Posts: 239 Location: nairobi
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Boris Boyka wrote:Real Estate is an area of my future intrest. I will invest here. That said,am happy to hear a stagnation or burst whichever. Actually I will be VEEEERRRRYYY HAPPY to hear a lot of office spaces and rentals from singles to 3b/rm. This will mean "we" nikiwa landlord we lower or maintain prices... With defaulters,banks will have to lower intrest rates for defaulters...consequently...lower morgatge rates....What is ailing us is the GREEED! The salary strikes we are experiencing in kenya is as a result of "keter" reasonig. Instead of asking for pay increase we should strive for high production of goods and services so that prices go down thus we all can afford at our salaries. Each kenyan hufikiria akiongezwa mshahara...ya wengine itabaki hivo ndio awe tajiri kuwashinda. I advocate for flooding of goods and services Manyumba leading so as to stabilize. This craze of ours explains why our colonial time peers are doing well. On point. At one time i thought my salary and pension we growing, only to calculate after some years and find that it never catered for inflation and increase in property prices.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 8/15/2010 Posts: 99 Location: nairobi
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Mortgages in Kenya are simply unaffordable. The number of mortgages currently stand at 30,000. If you want a studio apartment worth 4.5m you will have to be paying KES 60,000 for a mortgage priced at 15% per annum for the next 20 yrs. Assuming a debt income ratio of 50% for conservative banks you need to be earning at least KES 120,000 net per month and without any other debt, hata HELB. Now, tell me how many people are earning such amounts in NBI leave alone Kenya. Developers will always have that billboard shouting 90% sold to hoodwink you into thinking you have to hurry and pay for a unit. I have seen such a banner for close to one yr on some houses along Waiyaki way and keep wondering, shouldn't they be sold out by now? I have seen landlords get rude when they finish new units only to lower the rent and start calling the same potential tenents they were rude to. The mortgages only take up 6% of total loan portfolio in the banking industry in Kenya so I don't think banks will lower interest rates soon; after all they are still making insane profits without those mortgages. The bottom of the pyramid is where the juice is...that is why you still see people living in houses which are at risk of collapsing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/27/2007 Posts: 2,768
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dunkang wrote:mlennyma wrote:I can confirm from where I live the report is true,some flats have been vacant since august,you may think the owners want them vacant but no,they will take time to admit the sensible thing to do is to adjust rent downwards and stop living in denial its real Maybe in the "High end to Upper-Middle Classes". Huku mitaani, mimi bado ona hayo, though the landlords' "Kama huwezi, HAMA!!!" @kaigangio tough talks have gone down. But RENT will never go down, maybe stagnate for 3-5 years! Not really @dunkang...landlords down these sides of ours are very innovative...they are trapping all those tenants running away from Buru Buru, Pangani, Adams Arcade etc... As for new flats, the landlords are focused on the popular units where the majority of the tenants can afford...believe me, when I tell you the demand is still there and increasing... The tough talks will still remain because if it does not McReggae will stay in the flat for a full year without paying rent with scenario impossibles at the end of the month... ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/15/2013 Posts: 1,977 Location: Here
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innovator wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:Real Estate is an area of my future intrest. I will invest here. That said,am happy to hear a stagnation or burst whichever. Actually I will be VEEEERRRRYYY HAPPY to hear a lot of office spaces and rentals from singles to 3b/rm. This will mean "we" nikiwa landlord we lower or maintain prices... With defaulters,banks will have to lower intrest rates for defaulters...consequently...lower morgatge rates....What is ailing us is the GREEED! The salary strikes we are experiencing in kenya is as a result of "keter" reasonig. Instead of asking for pay increase we should strive for high production of goods and services so that prices go down thus we all can afford at our salaries. Each kenyan hufikiria akiongezwa mshahara...ya wengine itabaki hivo ndio awe tajiri kuwashinda. I advocate for flooding of goods and services Manyumba leading so as to stabilize. This craze of ours explains why our colonial time peers are doing well. On point. At one time i thought my salary and pension we growing, only to calculate after some years and find that it never catered for inflation and increase in property prices. Such are fellows i was talking of www.standardmedia.co.ke/...our-economy&pageNo=2 ati every year salary and infaltion should increase. Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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Boris Boyka wrote:innovator wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:Real Estate is an area of my future intrest. I will invest here. That said,am happy to hear a stagnation or burst whichever. Actually I will be VEEEERRRRYYY HAPPY to hear a lot of office spaces and rentals from singles to 3b/rm. This will mean "we" nikiwa landlord we lower or maintain prices... With defaulters,banks will have to lower intrest rates for defaulters...consequently...lower morgatge rates....What is ailing us is the GREEED! The salary strikes we are experiencing in kenya is as a result of "keter" reasonig. Instead of asking for pay increase we should strive for high production of goods and  services so that prices go down thus we all can afford at our salaries. Each kenyan hufikiria akiongezwa mshahara...ya wengine itabaki hivo ndio awe tajiri kuwashinda. I advocate for flooding of goods and services Manyumba leading so as to stabilize. This craze of ours explains why our colonial time peers are doing well. On point. At one time i thought my salary and pension we growing, only to calculate after some years and find that it never catered for inflation and increase in property prices. Such are fellows i was talking of www.standardmedia.co.ke/...our-economy&pageNo=2 ati every year salary and infaltion should increase.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/16/2014 Posts: 1,420 Location: Bohemian Grove
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Boris Boyka wrote:innovator wrote:Boris Boyka wrote:Real Estate is an area of my future intrest. I will invest here. That said,am happy to hear a stagnation or burst whichever. Actually I will be VEEEERRRRYYY HAPPY to hear a lot of office spaces and rentals from singles to 3b/rm. This will mean "we" nikiwa landlord we lower or maintain prices... With defaulters,banks will have to lower intrest rates for defaulters...consequently...lower morgatge rates....What is ailing us is the GREEED! The salary strikes we are experiencing in kenya is as a result of "keter" reasonig. Instead of asking for pay increase we should strive for high production of goods and services so that prices go down thus we all can afford at our salaries. Each kenyan hufikiria akiongezwa mshahara...ya wengine itabaki hivo ndio awe tajiri kuwashinda. I advocate for flooding of goods and services Manyumba leading so as to stabilize. This craze of ours explains why our colonial time peers are doing well. On point. At one time i thought my salary and pension we growing, only to calculate after some years and find that it never catered for inflation and increase in property prices. Such are fellows i was talking of www.standardmedia.co.ke/...our-economy&pageNo=2 ati every year salary and infaltion should increase. @BorisBoyka you're right. This is a load of crap from Economics point of view. If you increase salaries when inflation increases you'll create more inflation coz people will have more to spend hence needing another salary increase to keep pace with inflation so it's a zero sum game.If the basic goods can be produced n retailed lower prices (either via efficiencies in production or some subsidies of some sort) that can enable more Kenyans live comfortably with their current salaries without needing year on year increases.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/7/2014 Posts: 155
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Very insightful comments here.Ever learning each day.
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