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Housing Finance: HFCK a diamond in the rough
obiero
#2321 Posted : Sunday, June 18, 2023 11:04:14 AM
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next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#2322 Posted : Sunday, June 18, 2023 11:14:30 AM
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QW25091985 wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Simplified wrote:
Applause a high of 16.50 today... and the trek up has just started...I wonder if 19 will print.Got 85% of my portfolio on this one

Drool This counter traded at 30 bob last year. Its highly undervalued and full of potential
It might have been over-valued at 30/- but what is the 2012 EPS if 1Q 2012 is the basis for a forecast?


in FY 2011, EPS growth was 64%. This year, interest rates have screwed banks so let us project a modest 40% growth. That will give us:

Forward EPS 3.78
Forward P/E at the price of 16.50; 4.36

At KES 30, we will still be talking of single digit P/E of 7.93



Ohhhh. Crap all this fundamental analysis Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . index will soon be making new highs soon . so 30 bob is on deck !

I miss QW and these other folks of yesterdays.. Atleast I found @stocksmaster and @a4architect elsewhere

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#2323 Posted : Monday, June 19, 2023 9:01:26 PM
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obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

The current share price of HF Group Limited (HFCK) is KES 5.04. HF began the year with a share price of 3.19 KES and has since gained 58% on that price valuation, ranking it third on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance. Watch and learn.

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
Ericsson
#2324 Posted : Friday, July 14, 2023 10:46:47 AM
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obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

The current share price of HF Group Limited (HFCK) is KES 5.04. HF began the year with a share price of 3.19 KES and has since gained 58% on that price valuation, ranking it third on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance. Watch and learn.


The current reversal in share price been witnessed is brutal
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#2325 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2023 12:57:07 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

The current share price of HF Group Limited (HFCK) is KES 5.04. HF began the year with a share price of 3.19 KES and has since gained 58% on that price valuation, ranking it third on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance. Watch and learn.


The current reversal in share price been witnessed is brutal

Daily monitoring is unnecessary. It has bounced back!

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
deadpoet
#2326 Posted : Monday, July 17, 2023 7:55:06 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

The current share price of HF Group Limited (HFCK) is KES 5.04. HF began the year with a share price of 3.19 KES and has since gained 58% on that price valuation, ranking it third on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance. Watch and learn.


The current reversal in share price been witnessed is brutal

Daily monitoring is unnecessary. It has bounced back!


... says the person who daily monitors share prices. But I'm impressed by your steadfastness. I'd have booked profits by now.
Ericsson
#2327 Posted : Tuesday, July 18, 2023 9:38:57 AM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

The current share price of HF Group Limited (HFCK) is KES 5.04. HF began the year with a share price of 3.19 KES and has since gained 58% on that price valuation, ranking it third on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance. Watch and learn.


The current reversal in share price been witnessed is brutal

Daily monitoring is unnecessary. It has bounced back!


Look at your quote,you were quoting at ksh.5.04
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
obiero
#2328 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2023 4:01:11 PM
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deadpoet wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

The current share price of HF Group Limited (HFCK) is KES 5.04. HF began the year with a share price of 3.19 KES and has since gained 58% on that price valuation, ranking it third on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance. Watch and learn.


The current reversal in share price been witnessed is brutal

Daily monitoring is unnecessary. It has bounced back!


... says the person who daily monitors share prices. But I'm impressed by your steadfastness. I'd have booked profits by now.

It's still up 42% YTD. I know the fair value of HF, some don't

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#2329 Posted : Thursday, July 20, 2023 4:02:43 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

The current share price of HF Group Limited (HFCK) is KES 5.04. HF began the year with a share price of 3.19 KES and has since gained 58% on that price valuation, ranking it third on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance. Watch and learn.


The current reversal in share price been witnessed is brutal

Daily monitoring is unnecessary. It has bounced back!


Look at your quote,you were quoting at ksh.5.04

Still made more gains than most.. Watch and learn

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#2330 Posted : Tuesday, August 01, 2023 8:16:42 PM
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obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
obiero wrote:
obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

The current share price of HF Group Limited (HFCK) is KES 5.04. HF began the year with a share price of 3.19 KES and has since gained 58% on that price valuation, ranking it third on the NSE in terms of year-to-date performance. Watch and learn.


The current reversal in share price been witnessed is brutal

Daily monitoring is unnecessary. It has bounced back!


Look at your quote,you were quoting at ksh.5.04

Still made more gains than most.. Watch and learn

Highest HF volume ever traded in open session witnessed today. 1,006,400 shares. We all know what happens next! Dont we?

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
obiero
#2331 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2023 12:35:33 PM
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HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
VituVingiSana
#2332 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2023 1:34:13 PM
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obiero wrote:
HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy

Dividend for FY23?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
My 2 cents
#2333 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:01:07 PM
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obiero wrote:
HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy


Check the understatement of the bad loans provisions (despite the bad loan book). If this was adequately provided for, HFCK would book a loss.
MaichBlack
#2334 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2023 4:30:40 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy

Dividend for FY23?

After 5 years of losses???
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
VituVingiSana
#2335 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2023 5:24:43 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy

Dividend for FY23?

After 5 years of losses???
Wacha @Obiero ajibu! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#2336 Posted : Thursday, August 31, 2023 11:37:48 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy

Dividend for FY23?

After 5 years of losses???
Wacha @Obiero ajibu! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 0.35 DPS is possible. Meanwhile the share price will continue to rise. KES 7 is inevitable

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
MaichBlack
#2337 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2023 10:05:17 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy

Dividend for FY23?

After 5 years of losses???
Wacha @Obiero ajibu! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 0.35 DPS is possible. Meanwhile the share price will continue to rise. KES 7 is inevitable

By end of July 2023 (Obiero 2023).
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
VituVingiSana
#2338 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2023 10:15:21 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy

Dividend for FY23?

After 5 years of losses???
Wacha @Obiero ajibu! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 0.35 DPS is possible. Meanwhile the share price will continue to rise. KES 7 is inevitable
I have to say you called the price rise but if HF pays 35c for FY23... I will be impressed.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
MaichBlack
#2339 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2023 10:21:07 AM
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obiero wrote:
next stop KES 7 by end of July 2023.. fair value KES 12

smile
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#2340 Posted : Friday, September 01, 2023 11:27:26 AM
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MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
HF Group posted a 240% surge in profit before tax to Kes 200 million for the first half of 2023, from a profit of Kes 59 million in a similar period in 2022. This marked improvement is attributed to an aggressive business transformation strategy

Dividend for FY23?

After 5 years of losses???
Wacha @Obiero ajibu! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

KES 0.35 DPS is possible. Meanwhile the share price will continue to rise. KES 7 is inevitable

By end of July 2023 (Obiero 2023).

A dream delayed is not a dream deferred. (Obiero 2023)

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
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