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KENOL KOBIL .... 2012
Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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 7 Months and counting.. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/3/2007 Posts: 146
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/11/2009 Posts: 1,223
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sorovi wrote:http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000072697&pageNo=2&story_title=Kenya-It%E2%80%99s-crash-and-burn-for-KenolKobil-buy-out-deal Standard alleges that PUMA as pulled out of the deal. For now it remains an allegation until the time KenolKobil holds a press conference to confirm or deny or even ignore the standard rumor. Either way the stock will take some beating. History will not remember you for your IQ. It will remember you for what you did. “Genius is 1 percent inspiration, 99 percent perspiration.” Thomas Edison
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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BGL wrote:sorovi wrote:http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000072697&pageNo=2&story_title=Kenya-It%E2%80%99s-crash-and-burn-for-KenolKobil-buy-out-deal Standard alleges that PUMA as pulled out of the deal. For now it remains an allegation until the time KenolKobil holds a press conference to confirm or deny or even ignore the standard rumor. Either way the stock will take some beating. ...yet again niliwaambia hamkuniamini,lemmie dig up the post number,cant believe guys are still here,after the official announcement will catch it at 11-12 range,see you there... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2010 Posts: 511 Location: kandara, Murang'a
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maka wrote:BGL wrote:sorovi wrote:http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/?articleID=2000072697&pageNo=2&story_title=Kenya-It%E2%80%99s-crash-and-burn-for-KenolKobil-buy-out-deal Standard alleges that PUMA as pulled out of the deal. For now it remains an allegation until the time KenolKobil holds a press conference to confirm or deny or even ignore the standard rumor. Either way the stock will take some beating. ...yet again niliwaambia hamkuniamini,lemmie dig up the post number,cant believe guys are still here,after the official announcement will catch it at 11-12 range,see you there... Oh my Gawd, Oh my gawd! Oh my Gawd! oh my gawd! Oh My... Foresight..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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Kenol Kobil shareholders have been left hanging with a serious monkey... @VVS and the rest must be causing earthquakes wherever they are because they had a chance to sell @16bob like 6months ago but as we all know greed took over! I hope we can all agree that after the destruction of shareholder wealth caused by the 4billion loss without this deal KK is worth less than 10bob... I wouldn't be shocked if one of the reasons PUMA pulled out was that 4billion loss with no sign of recovery due to price controls! At least shareholders have a chance to absorb the news during the public holiday because this is big bad news indeed!  Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 12/1/2009 Posts: 75 Location: nairobi
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guru267 wrote:Kenol Kobil shareholders have been left hanging with a serious monkey... @VVS and the rest must be causing earthquakes wherever they are because they had a chance to sell @16bob like 6months ago but as we all know greed took over! I hope we can all agree that after the destruction of shareholder wealth caused by the 4billion loss without this deal KK is worth less than 10bob... I wouldn't be shocked if one of the reasons PUMA pulled out was that 4billion loss with no sign of recovery due to price controls! At least shareholders have a chance to absorb the news during the public holiday because this is big bad news indeed! there goes my first big real loss on Nse. ill try to sell kesho with 10% rule. this is not official so 10% holds.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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haiya, 8/-, here we come. But seriously, KK, KCB and HFCK fans have a major problem. Too much reliance on financial analysis (which is done from cooked results and figures). Maybe puma want to enter silently through the NSE and buy out the wanjikus and be left to negotiate with big boys later. Maybe. In other news, total (k) opened its newest baby on Monday. Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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guru267 wrote:Kenol Kobil shareholders have been left hanging with a serious monkey... @VVS and the rest must be causing earthquakes wherever they are because they had a chance to sell @16bob like 6months ago but as we all know greed took over! I hope we can all agree that after the destruction of shareholder wealth caused by the 4billion loss without this deal KK is worth less than 10bob... I wouldn't be shocked if one of the reasons PUMA pulled out was that 4billion loss with no sign of recovery due to price controls! At least shareholders have a chance to absorb the news during the public holiday because this is big bad news indeed! I'm glad you are going back to school... 1. KK is not a monkey 2. Professional investors don't base their investment decisions on a newspaper report quoting a so called Senior manager 3. Puma pulling out cause of the KES4Bn loss? Nonsense...the loss was public knowledge to them before they made a bid. 4. The KK you used to cheer religiously will come back stronger with or without Puma Energy 5. Puma Energy pulling out is not the end of the world, such things have happened before...it could be a good thing in disguise. You need to look at Nedbank post the HSBC pull out!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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the deal wrote:1. KK is not a monkey I define monkeys as overvalued companies with no hope of rising in the short term.. As of today at 15bob KK is a monkey the deal wrote:2. Professional investors don't base their investment decisions on a newspaper report quoting a so called Senior manager Trust me it wasn't the senior manager that did it! it was the evasive comments from the KK and PUMA spokespersons that sealed the deal! the deal wrote:3. Puma pulling out cause of the KES4Bn loss? Nonsense...the loss was public knowledge to them before they made a bid. COMPLETE LIES! Puma made its bid in April and KKs half year ends on 30th June.. how did PUMA know about the loss before they put in the bid?? the deal wrote:4. The KK you used to cheer religiously will come back stronger with or without Puma Energy I do not ever marry stocks since i already have a wonderful fiance!  KK may not come out stronger as price controls, low margins and high finance costs continue to bite! the deal wrote:5. Puma Energy pulling out is not the end of the world, such things have happened before...it could be a good thing in disguise. You need to look at Nedbank post the HSBC pull out! i did not say it was the end of the world for KK.. I simply said that now KKs share price will fall to its correct valuation at below 10bob! I do firmly believe that every stock becomes cheap at a certain price!! Its not right to compare apples with oranges! Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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dunkang wrote:haiya, 8/-, here we come.
But seriously, KK, KCB and HFCK fans have a major problem. Too much reliance on financial analysis (which is done from cooked results and figures).
Maybe puma want to enter silently through the NSE and buy out the wanjikus and be left to negotiate with big boys later. Maybe.
In other news, total (k) opened its newest baby on Monday. Dumped KK at 16.25, dumped KCB at 23, the only monkey currently (big m*********ing ape) in my portfolio is KQ, average price 44.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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guru267 wrote:the deal wrote:1. KK is not a monkey I define monkeys as overvalued companies with no hope of rising in the short term.. As of today at 15bob KK is a monkey the deal wrote:2. Professional investors don't base their investment decisions on a newspaper report quoting a so called Senior manager Trust me it wasn't the senior manager that did it! it was the evasive comments from the KK and PUMA spokespersons that sealed the deal! the deal wrote:3. Puma pulling out cause of the KES4Bn loss? Nonsense...the loss was public knowledge to them before they made a bid. COMPLETE LIES! Puma made its bid in April and KKs half year ends on 30th June.. how did PUMA know about the loss before they put in the bid?? the deal wrote:4. The KK you used to cheer religiously will come back stronger with or without Puma Energy I do not ever marry stocks since i already have a wonderful fiance! KK may not come out stronger as price controls, low margins and high finance costs continue to bite! the deal wrote:5. Puma Energy pulling out is not the end of the world, such things have happened before...it could be a good thing in disguise. You need to look at Nedbank post the HSBC pull out! i did not say it was the end of the world for KK.. I simply said that now KKs share price will fall to its correct valuation at below 10bob! I do firmly believe that every stock becomes cheap at a certain price!! Its not right to compare apples with oranges! well answered Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/4/2010 Posts: 8,977
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The roller-coaster, the volatility wild swings, the ulcers centrals... It's called the oil M&A syndrome... $15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,107 Location: Nairobi
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Please, please sell on Thursday at cheap, cheaper prices! As a Warren Buffett fan... I love doom & gloom about good well-run firms. Sure they made a KES 4bn hedging loss when the KES was very volatile... but it remains the best run major OMC in Kenya. Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it. Warren Buffett Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years. Warren Buffett Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/26/2012 Posts: 830
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I may buy when the dividend yield is above 10% A successful man is not he who gets the best, it is he who makes the best from what he gets.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,107 Location: Nairobi
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S.Mutaga III wrote:I may buy when the dividend yield is above 10% Grin  I will be buying way before that! 9.9% Div Yield... I expect a zero dividend for 2012 [cash preservation] if Puma does not come through. That is not a bad thing either. Berkshire Hathaway [Warren Buffett] has not paid a dividend ever. Of course, eventually the payoff is dividends or a sale [cash inflow]. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Excruciatingly slow 'justice' system seems hellbent on scuppering business. It amounts to economic sabotage. GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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VituVingiSana wrote:Please, please sell on Thursday at cheap, cheaper prices! As a Warren Buffett fan... I love doom & gloom about good well-run firms. Sure they made a KES 4bn hedging loss when the KES was very volatile... but it remains the best run major OMC in Kenya.
Look at market fluctuations as your friend rather than your enemy; profit from folly rather than participate in it.
Warren Buffett
Only buy something that you'd be perfectly happy to hold if the market shut down for 10 years.
Warren Buffett Well said
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 6,183 Location: nairobi
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Dream millionaires will be paupers here when i said i feel it will dissapoint i was told its because am not a share holder.i sold and am willing to buy below 10bob "Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/12/2006 Posts: 1,554
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mlennyma wrote:Dream millionaires will be paupers here when i said i feel it will dissapoint i was told its because am not a share holder.i sold and am willing to buy below 10bob And we shall be buying as you also buy, KK is a solid company with or without Puma, I guess you have seen the point thats why you wish to run back, welcome....
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