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hisah
#1131 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 10:55:08 AM
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Britam holds a significant chunk of HF. The HF results are nothing to write home about. 2017 banks start the FY in the rate cap era where Q1 results will give us a sneak preview on what awaits the banks. HF almost issue a profit warning in 2016. What will happen in 2017 with a dicey economy?

IFC was not PPT but a bailout!
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
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alotoftalk
#1132 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:18:13 PM
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MadDoc wrote:
alotoftalk wrote:
New accounting rules saved them. Hopefully they were not too aggressive with their GPV.



Could you tell what's the difference between NPV and GPV?


An actuary would explain it better than I can.

But in short GPV assumes the insurer has a great eye and can see the future (more assumptions) while NPV doesn't assume the insurer knows everything that will happen in the future (less assumptions).

Danger is where the insurer doesn't have the right data and talent to make these GPV assumptions.


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lochaz-index
#1133 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:25:31 PM
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alotoftalk wrote:
MadDoc wrote:
alotoftalk wrote:
New accounting rules saved them. Hopefully they were not too aggressive with their GPV.



Could you tell what's the difference between NPV and GPV?


An actuary would explain it better than I can.

But in short GPV assumes the insurer has a great eye and can see the future (more assumptions) while NPV doesn't assume the insurer knows everything that will happen in the future (less assumptions).

Danger is where the insurer doesn't have the right data and talent to make these GPV assumptions.



Those are my exact fears when it comes to GPV. Given the management standards witnessed in various firms in the NSE, whats to say that some ambitious crooks won't use the 'looser' guidelines to suppress the real numbers? They could do this 'legally' for years without being detected.
The main purpose of the stock market is to make fools of as many people as possible.
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Spikes
#1134 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 2:17:44 PM
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A dead cat rebounds on vapor volume!
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Realtreaty
#1135 Posted : Thursday, May 25, 2017 6:03:11 PM
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Spikes wrote:
A dead cat rebounds on vapor volume!

???????????
Sad d'oh!
Caaat?
This is a candy that never spoils
What did you call it when it reached 40 or you were not born @Spike?Shame on you Shame on you
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obiero
#1136 Posted : Friday, May 26, 2017 7:20:20 AM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Spikes wrote:
A dead cat rebounds on vapor volume!

???????????
Sad d'oh!
Caaat?
This is a candy that never spoils
What did you call it when it reached 40 or you were not born @Spike?Shame on you Shame on you

@realtreaty lol

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Spikes
#1137 Posted : Monday, May 29, 2017 11:52:12 AM
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@hisah are you still waiting keenly at 6/-? What is your expert opinion on current rally?
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Spikes
#1138 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:52:21 AM
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As @karasinga tells us market markers are thieves. They've rallied this stock ahead of HFCK release of Q1 2017 results .Their aim was to exit before rupture and all out disruption by a huge drop of mortgage lender's earnings.
John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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hisah
#1139 Posted : Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:44:09 AM
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Spikes wrote:
@hisah are you still waiting keenly at 6/-? What is your expert opinion on current rally?

This is a deadwood. I'll only look at it when my strike price is hit.
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alotoftalk
#1140 Posted : Monday, June 12, 2017 12:40:41 AM
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Betting that H1 2017 is a loss.
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