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Gathige wrote:murchr wrote:sqft wrote:https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/article/2001360500/detectives-probe-ruto-s-aides-over-sh40b-guns-fraud  Are they done probing the issue where somebody impersonated the president and was trying to buy land from Merali? Those polish dudes must be very dumb. The secretive nature of military procurement would have made them smell a rat they were being conNed by Echesa. But for a man who the other day was trafficking IndIan and Pakistani dancers, moving to arms and getting close to deal is no mea feat. In others news, he had already received facilitation fee of 50m which is quite some cash. Even those guys are just brokers and cons, they just met their match Life is an endless adventure
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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The mt kenya people who voted for Uhuruto in 2013 & 2017 broadly fall into 2 groups. There are those who felt Jubilee was the lesser evil. Then we have the diehard tribalists.
The latter are guided by the only political ideology in central I.e. Railaphobia. They are in a bad place after the handshake. They will not and can never forgive Uhuru for the betrayal. These ones will vote for Ruto to the last man. To punish Uhuru. Outright madness I know.
The current scandal involving Echesa would force any reasonable person to pause, and demand an answer from the DP. Not these diehards. They want the DCI to question DoD officials. Someone on this forum wants the DCI to investigate the 4-years old Merali case before touching the DP's office. Never mind the suspects in the merali case were arrested and arraigned. Never mind Merali was duped by a phone call. Never mind the thugs never went anywhere close to statehouse.
Just had a heated conversation with a relative who is a diehard on a family whatsapp group. I posed a question which I will repeat here.
What if Ruto made it to statehouse. What do you think Echesa, Kimani ngunjiri, simon mbugua would be doing for those 10 years ? The possible answers are too chilling.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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FRM2011 wrote:
The mt kenya people who voted for Uhuruto in 2013 & 2017 broadly fall into 2 groups. There are those who felt Jubilee was the lesser evil. Then we have the diehard tribalists.
The latter are guided by the only political ideology in central I.e. Railaphobia. They are in a bad place after the handshake. They will not and can never forgive Uhuru for the betrayal. These ones will vote for Ruto to the last man. To punish Uhuru. Outright madness I know.
The current scandal involving Echesa would force any reasonable person to pause, and demand an answer from the DP. Not these diehards. They want the DCI to question DoD officials. Someone on this forum wants the DCI to investigate the 4-years old Merali case before touching the DP's office. Never mind the suspects in the merali case were arrested and arraigned. Never mind Merali was duped by a phone call. Never mind the thugs never went anywhere close to statehouse.
Just had a heated conversation with a relative who is a diehard on a family whatsapp group. I posed a question which I will repeat here.
What if Ruto made it to statehouse. What do you think Echesa, Kimani ngunjiri, simon mbugua would be doing for those 10 years ? The possible answers are too chilling.
Uhuru has not only betrayed the " Ruuriri" but the entire nation. The Economy is at its worst, almost to the Moi level years. He has sank low and now addressing Mt kenya is shortwave expessing too much feelings. We gave him the sword and now compalining its blunt. If Ruto is this bad, why is DPP, EACC and even Omtattah not going for him? "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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FRM2011 wrote:
The mt kenya people who voted for Uhuruto in 2013 & 2017 broadly fall into 2 groups. There are those who felt Jubilee was the lesser evil. Then we have the diehard tribalists.
The latter are guided by the only political ideology in central I.e. Railaphobia. They are in a bad place after the handshake. They will not and can never forgive Uhuru for the betrayal. These ones will vote for Ruto to the last man. To punish Uhuru. Outright madness I know.
The current scandal involving Echesa would force any reasonable person to pause, and demand an answer from the DP. Not these diehards. They want the DCI to question DoD officials. Someone on this forum wants the DCI to investigate the 4-years old Merali case before touching the DP's office. Never mind the suspects in the merali case were arrested and arraigned. Never mind Merali was duped by a phone call. Never mind the thugs never went anywhere close to statehouse.
Just had a heated conversation with a relative who is a diehard on a family whatsapp group. I posed a question which I will repeat here.
What if Ruto made it to statehouse. What do you think Echesa, Kimani ngunjiri, simon mbugua would be doing for those 10 years ? The possible answers are too chilling.
Don't worry about the diehards. Everyone is allowed to be stupid once in a while. I too wonder about your question. This guy and the guy who support him just can't keep from being in the papers for one swindle or another. It's like meeting your wife every day in Karumaindo. Then she tells you that she's not a prostitute. She simply passed by to say hi to her friends. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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Gathige wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
The mt kenya people who voted for Uhuruto in 2013 & 2017 broadly fall into 2 groups. There are those who felt Jubilee was the lesser evil. Then we have the diehard tribalists.
The latter are guided by the only political ideology in central I.e. Railaphobia. They are in a bad place after the handshake. They will not and can never forgive Uhuru for the betrayal. These ones will vote for Ruto to the last man. To punish Uhuru. Outright madness I know.
The current scandal involving Echesa would force any reasonable person to pause, and demand an answer from the DP. Not these diehards. They want the DCI to question DoD officials. Someone on this forum wants the DCI to investigate the 4-years old Merali case before touching the DP's office. Never mind the suspects in the merali case were arrested and arraigned. Never mind Merali was duped by a phone call. Never mind the thugs never went anywhere close to statehouse.
Just had a heated conversation with a relative who is a diehard on a family whatsapp group. I posed a question which I will repeat here.
What if Ruto made it to statehouse. What do you think Echesa, Kimani ngunjiri, simon mbugua would be doing for those 10 years ? The possible answers are too chilling.
Uhuru has not only betrayed the " Ruuriri" but the entire nation. The Economy is at its worst, almost to the Moi level years. He has sank low and now addressing Mt kenya is shortwave expessing too much feelings. We gave him the sword and now compalining its blunt. If Ruto is this bad, why is DPP, EACC and even Omtattah not going for him? By 2017, it was clear to everyone that Jubilee were totally incapable of running the country. Everyone except mt kenya people and kaleos. But you voted him back. At what point did you notice the economy was in trouble ??
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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alma1 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
The mt kenya people who voted for Uhuruto in 2013 & 2017 broadly fall into 2 groups. There are those who felt Jubilee was the lesser evil. Then we have the diehard tribalists.
The latter are guided by the only political ideology in central I.e. Railaphobia. They are in a bad place after the handshake. They will not and can never forgive Uhuru for the betrayal. These ones will vote for Ruto to the last man. To punish Uhuru. Outright madness I know.
The current scandal involving Echesa would force any reasonable person to pause, and demand an answer from the DP. Not these diehards. They want the DCI to question DoD officials. Someone on this forum wants the DCI to investigate the 4-years old Merali case before touching the DP's office. Never mind the suspects in the merali case were arrested and arraigned. Never mind Merali was duped by a phone call. Never mind the thugs never went anywhere close to statehouse.
Just had a heated conversation with a relative who is a diehard on a family whatsapp group. I posed a question which I will repeat here.
What if Ruto made it to statehouse. What do you think Echesa, Kimani ngunjiri, simon mbugua would be doing for those 10 years ? The possible answers are too chilling.
Don't worry about the diehards. Everyone is allowed to be stupid once in a while. I too wonder about your question. This guy and the guy who support him just can't keep from being in the papers for one swindle or another. It's like meeting your wife every day in Karumaindo. Then she tells you that she's not a prostitute. She simply passed by to say hi to her friends. 
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FRM2011 wrote:alma1 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
The mt kenya people who voted for Uhuruto in 2013 & 2017 broadly fall into 2 groups. There are those who felt Jubilee was the lesser evil. Then we have the diehard tribalists.
The latter are guided by the only political ideology in central I.e. Railaphobia. They are in a bad place after the handshake. They will not and can never forgive Uhuru for the betrayal. These ones will vote for Ruto to the last man. To punish Uhuru. Outright madness I know.
The current scandal involving Echesa would force any reasonable person to pause, and demand an answer from the DP. Not these diehards. They want the DCI to question DoD officials. Someone on this forum wants the DCI to investigate the 4-years old Merali case before touching the DP's office. Never mind the suspects in the merali case were arrested and arraigned. Never mind Merali was duped by a phone call. Never mind the thugs never went anywhere close to statehouse.
Just had a heated conversation with a relative who is a diehard on a family whatsapp group. I posed a question which I will repeat here.
What if Ruto made it to statehouse. What do you think Echesa, Kimani ngunjiri, simon mbugua would be doing for those 10 years ? The possible answers are too chilling.
Don't worry about the diehards. Everyone is allowed to be stupid once in a while. I too wonder about your question. This guy and the guy who support him just can't keep from being in the papers for one swindle or another. It's like meeting your wife every day in Karumaindo. Then she tells you that she's not a prostitute. She simply passed by to say hi to her friends. I am hoping Ruto is elected PORK in 2022 so that the next generation can start electing credible leaders. In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/9/2009 Posts: 2,003
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Angelica _ann wrote:FRM2011 wrote:alma1 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
The mt kenya people who voted for Uhuruto in 2013 & 2017 broadly fall into 2 groups. There are those who felt Jubilee was the lesser evil. Then we have the diehard tribalists.
The latter are guided by the only political ideology in central I.e. Railaphobia. They are in a bad place after the handshake. They will not and can never forgive Uhuru for the betrayal. These ones will vote for Ruto to the last man. To punish Uhuru. Outright madness I know.
The current scandal involving Echesa would force any reasonable person to pause, and demand an answer from the DP. Not these diehards. They want the DCI to question DoD officials. Someone on this forum wants the DCI to investigate the 4-years old Merali case before touching the DP's office. Never mind the suspects in the merali case were arrested and arraigned. Never mind Merali was duped by a phone call. Never mind the thugs never went anywhere close to statehouse.
Just had a heated conversation with a relative who is a diehard on a family whatsapp group. I posed a question which I will repeat here.
What if Ruto made it to statehouse. What do you think Echesa, Kimani ngunjiri, simon mbugua would be doing for those 10 years ? The possible answers are too chilling.
Don't worry about the diehards. Everyone is allowed to be stupid once in a while. I too wonder about your question. This guy and the guy who support him just can't keep from being in the papers for one swindle or another. It's like meeting your wife every day in Karumaindo. Then she tells you that she's not a prostitute. She simply passed by to say hi to her friends. I am hoping Ruto is elected PORK in 2022 so that the next generation can start electing credible leaders. Did the current generation learn anything from Moi? Or the Uhuruto first 5?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/3/2008 Posts: 4,058 Location: Gwitu
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Angelica _ann wrote:FRM2011 wrote:alma1 wrote:FRM2011 wrote:
The mt kenya people who voted for Uhuruto in 2013 & 2017 broadly fall into 2 groups. There are those who felt Jubilee was the lesser evil. Then we have the diehard tribalists.
The latter are guided by the only political ideology in central I.e. Railaphobia. They are in a bad place after the handshake. They will not and can never forgive Uhuru for the betrayal. These ones will vote for Ruto to the last man. To punish Uhuru. Outright madness I know.
The current scandal involving Echesa would force any reasonable person to pause, and demand an answer from the DP. Not these diehards. They want the DCI to question DoD officials. Someone on this forum wants the DCI to investigate the 4-years old Merali case before touching the DP's office. Never mind the suspects in the merali case were arrested and arraigned. Never mind Merali was duped by a phone call. Never mind the thugs never went anywhere close to statehouse.
Just had a heated conversation with a relative who is a diehard on a family whatsapp group. I posed a question which I will repeat here.
What if Ruto made it to statehouse. What do you think Echesa, Kimani ngunjiri, simon mbugua would be doing for those 10 years ? The possible answers are too chilling.
Don't worry about the diehards. Everyone is allowed to be stupid once in a while. I too wonder about your question. This guy and the guy who support him just can't keep from being in the papers for one swindle or another. It's like meeting your wife every day in Karumaindo. Then she tells you that she's not a prostitute. She simply passed by to say hi to her friends. I am hoping Ruto is elected PORK in 2022 so that the next generation can start electing credible leaders. True. Kenyans deserve the Kiambu 'Baba Yao' lesson. Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
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Echesa is just mtu wa mkono running errands for his boss. https://www.nation.co.ke...58158-p1y6sc/index.html
Quote:At the same time, CCTV footage taken from the DP’s office on Friday positively identified two of his aides as having been present on February 13 when former Sports CS Rashid Echesa met with officials from Echo Advanced Technologies, an American Company. Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
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