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Mumias results
hisah
#201 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 7:38:53 AM
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[quote=PRAPCAT]Guys, what a discussion this has been. Thanks all. I have learnt alot. I'm heavily invested in Mumias and was hoping @qw would come out on top.

Maybe I can become qw's new wife if he hasn't made up with guru yet!! Consolation prize ama? Laughing out loudly

I came across this on bloomberg. Does'nt state anything new but I thought it interesting that they estimate the share price as follows...

Mumias Sugar Co., Kenya’s largest producer of the sweetener, was rated “buy” in new coverage at Sterling Investment Bank, which cited plans by the company to diversify its revenue base.

Mumias’s share-price estimate was set at 18.6 shillings ($0.23) per share
Pray

http://www.bloomberg.com...ew-revenue-streams.html[/quote]

Be careful with brokerage house advice especially when made public to all smile Market psychology tends not to follow the mass thinking smile
I'm interested on how MSC handles the 13.50 - 14 for the next two weeks. Staying above this range means the price can push up. Anything else makes below 13/- or lower a probability with increased selling.
@qw - I'm also scouting KCB. 18/- has withheld selling for a while. 24/- still remains solid resistance for the year. If broken, the breakout will be interesting smile
KQ is also behaving the same with 45/- refusing to break for months. 65 is year high. Break above, 75-80 is possible as per chart projections.
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#202 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 8:17:33 AM
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Eheheh. Guru is a lovely lady .i see maturity over all her posts.
By the way i am also valuing mumias at at a more optimistic 19.00 .i will be keen on how it behaves around 15.50 wich is a resistance level that has held 4 over a year.
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Aguytrying
#203 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 10:22:59 AM
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What a dramatic thread, however this thread has been too abrasive.I would urge wazuans to refrain from this. We are all investors, some healthy competition is not bad, it should stay as just that.
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#204 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 10:36:03 AM
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[quote=PRAPCAT]Guys, what a discussion this has been. Thanks all. I have learnt alot. I'm heavily invested in Mumias and was hoping @qw would come out on top.

Maybe I can become qw's new wife if he hasn't made up with guru yet!! Consolation prize ama? Laughing out loudly

I came across this on bloomberg. Does'nt state anything new but I thought it interesting that they estimate the share price as follows...

Mumias Sugar Co., Kenya’s largest producer of the sweetener, was rated “buy” in new coverage at Sterling Investment Bank, which cited plans by the company to diversify its revenue base.

Mumias’s share-price estimate was set at 18.6 shillings ($0.23) per share
Pray

http://www.bloomberg.com...ew-revenue-streams.html[/quote]

Bloomberg must be desperate for news. The sterling advisory was for last month before people new of the Mumias results. The bloomberg article says - The stock was trading at 15 shillings at 1:35 p.m. today in the Kenyan capital.

On the other hand, the article claims Mumias earns about 1.1 billion shillings annually from electricity sales.

By the way, who still takes advice from Sterling?

So, prapcat, don't mislead investors here.
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winston
#205 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 11:17:19 AM
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@prapcat...the article was dated 3rd august 2010 before the company released its financial results. Part of the optimism was dampened by the results.
PRAPCAT
#206 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 12:44:27 PM
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@winston...@all...didn't mean to mislead and apologies for the outdated newsSad
Let's see what next wk brings.
winston
#207 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 1:08:06 PM
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@Prapcat...no sweat.

@all...Just thinking about all the noise around comesa 2012. I doubt that the govt will allow the rules to come into full force before first turning around the govt owned companies. Or else the rules will kill the companies.

Sure the govt wants to privatize the govt sugar factory...but can it float them in their current state? Nope. Lots of investments (new factory machinery) will be required and injection of funds to clean up their books.

Me thinks that comesa rule will be deferred till the time the current govt owned sugar factories are sorted out. By that time Mumias sugar diversification projects would have fully come on board.
Horton
#208 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 1:19:49 PM
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Winston, comesa will entertain any extension requests this time as this would be the 3rd extension spanning a decade. Again, if the market is opened, the consumer wins.
PKoli
#209 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 1:31:21 PM
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Horton wrote:
Winston, comesa will entertain any extension requests this time as this would be the 3rd extension spanning a decade. Again, if the market is opened, the consumer wins.


I think comesa will surely not entertain.

I will buy Mumias shares if I am sure they can withstand the competition, else I look for other companies on the NSE that are competing with the rest of Africa..
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#210 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 1:51:49 PM
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I am glad I followed this post after all the action is over. It has reaffirmed to me again that NO ONE KNOWS JACK!!!!!!!!!! Do not go by anything any 'Wazua expert' says; the market is unpredictable. Buy quality stocks (not that there is much choice in NSE) and hold for the long term. Amen.
PKoli
#211 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 2:14:01 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
I am glad I followed this post after all the action is over. It has reaffirmed to me again that NO ONE KNOWS JACK!!!!!!!!!! Do not go by anything any 'Wazua expert' says; the market is unpredictable. Buy quality stocks (not that there is much choice in NSE) and hold for the long term. Amen.


There is a compination of knowledge and luck in the market.
youcan'tstopusnow
#212 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 5:20:38 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
I am glad I followed this post after all the action is over. It has reaffirmed to me again that NO ONE KNOWS JACK!!!!!!!!!! Do not go by anything any 'Wazua expert' says

Amen! We finally agree on something. I am guessing some Wazua 'guests' lost good money following 'experts'
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cnn
#213 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 5:36:59 PM
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The market will have the final say on this,look at the area it was trading at the close and a healthy supply.
the deal
#214 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 5:39:40 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
My 2 cents wrote:
I am glad I followed this post after all the action is over. It has reaffirmed to me again that NO ONE KNOWS JACK!!!!!!!!!! Do not go by anything any 'Wazua expert' says

Amen! We finally agree on something. I am guessing some Wazua 'guests' lost good money following 'experts'

I still mantain my rating on MSC it's a hold/sell in the near term...msc has never produced ethanol before thus when the new plant gets commissioned in DEC 2011 its more likely it will not reach optimum production in the same year perhaps it will turn even 2 year later...
youcan'tstopusnow
#215 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 5:52:35 PM
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the deal wrote:
I still mantain my rating on MSC it's a hold/sell in the near term...

deal, I agree. But the panic that people created was unbelievable
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winston
#216 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 6:14:10 PM
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PKoli wrote:
Horton wrote:
Winston, comesa will entertain any extension requests this time as this would be the 3rd extension spanning a decade. Again, if the market is opened, the consumer wins.


I think comesa will surely not entertain.

I will buy Mumias shares if I am sure they can withstand the competition, else I look for other companies on the NSE that are competing with the rest of Africa..


@Horton & Pkoli...if there is no extension there is going to be serious issues in the sugar belt. See how the government moved in to bail out panpaper. Can they afford a similar scenario with the 5 or so government sugar companies?

Consumer will win but jobs will be lost. And all the investment gone to waste.
MaichBlack
#217 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 7:21:42 PM
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I think it's high time we as country did an audit on COMESA membership. What are the gains? What are the losses? Simple business-like approach to issues.

Any wazuan with facts and actual figures? And I mean something like last year we made x billion that we would not have made if we were not members of the COMESA. last year we 'lost' y billion that we would not have lost if we were not members of the COMESA.
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Horton
#218 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 8:58:45 PM
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Will Kenyan sugar sector meet Comesa safeguards deadline?

http://about.comesa.int:80//index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=279:will-kenyan-sugar-sector-meet-comesa-safeguards-deadline-&catid=41:other-coverage&Itemid=69
Gatheuzi
#219 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 10:12:33 PM
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Given that 2012 is also the year when we go to the polls, it will be interesting how this unfolds.

If no extension is granted, and TARDA doesn't materialize, then MSC and the industry in general will have much to contend with.

For these reasons, I will prefer to keep off. However this doesn't mean guys won't make money.
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guru267
#220 Posted : Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:44:51 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
the deal wrote:
I still mantain my rating on MSC it's a hold/sell in the near term...

deal, I agree. But the panic that people created was unbelievable

This to me looked like a relief rally after a 14% loss in two days....

I agree with @qw.. that 12bob level has shown clear support to the counter but i still don't think its on its way up because huge supply keeps showing up above 13bob creating resistance...

Next weeks action should be interesting
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