@obi agreed this guy @paulkimani comes out of no where (hehe read out of the woodwork 😂😂😂) when this topic is being debated, he doesnt participate in any other topics being debated. Which brings me to the question, why all the zeal???His "facts" are also quite questionable, they are twisted to serve his agenda....i have asked time and time again on this forum why people would call this a ponzi yet they have no dealings, proof or even something that looks dodgy.

@paulkimani....acorn by their own admission? Really????? Kindly provide a link clearly stating that acorn admitted liability of irregular transfer of funds? Here is the article for your ease of referrence http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/bhy94gz/-/index.html

As for the case against the 4, i havent heard of any case that britam has filed against the 4 as you/britam has alleged they will ....maybe they were advised that they dont have a case? 😐

As Obi says the cash was in an SPV do u even understand what an SPV is? U wanna read up on how they work?

@poundfollish...twisting some of your facts?!?! Dont u mean he is twisting ALL of ur facts.... 😂

@enyands says he remains sceptical and constantly bashes these hard working men and women yet http://wazua.co.ke/forum...sts&t=30539&p=2 refer to post 36, he is tripping all over himself to try and buy shares in chase bank. Funny u should claim to be able to smell a "ponzi" as you insinuate yet, u were litterally begging for someone to get u into chase bank private placement. Some of us saw this a mile away

@muchr the have sold 40% of Alma, sold lots of CMS which by the way, i was told recently that the rates will be going down to 10-12% due to prevailing market, the have a technology company, they own a majority stake in a nse agent, they have only 2 houses remaining for sale at amara (where each house is 100m) btw alma and amara have broken ground a while back. I stand to be corrected on this one, but i was also told the have shares in an education transfer company. I understand there is another copy paste project of alma coming up soon in a swanky part of town. They have achieved alot in 1 year but as obi said, maybe they have come into the real estate play a tad bit late. But, i am just a happy customer, they would probably have answered ur questions better.

@Ash Ock please go and read up on madoff first before making comparisons, i had put the link of a book here a while back. The differences are quite stark. Btw Dry associates are also offering similar returns for a long time and that too from similar investments (namumatt/arm CP), so its nothing new in the market. Just that Cytonn does better marketing. The 18% returns they paid taleri btw was a combination of interest and taaleris stake of share sale in the project, not entirely "interest" as you insinuated...if u really wanted the answers to this, perhaps it would be good if u asked them the pertinent questions directly instead of wazua?


Cytonn shares will be trading on OTC by the end of this month. They are currently trading at 60bob. With the majority shares being closely guarded by the top 4. I can sell u some of mine when they hit 100bob, i keep the rest for retirement. I bought mine at 10/- 🤓

@muchr the have sold 40% of Alma, sold lots of CMS which by the way, i was told recently that the rates will be going down to 10-12% due to prevailing market, the have a technology company, Name please they own a majority stake in a nse agent, name please, they have only 2 houses remaining for sale at amara (where each house is 100m) btw alma and amara have broken ground a while back. I stand to be corrected on this one, but i was also told the have shares in an education transfer company Again Name. I understand there is another copy paste project of alma coming up soon in a swanky part of town. They have achieved alot in 1 year but as obi said, maybe they have come into the real estate play a tad bit late. But, i am just a happy customer, they would probably have answered ur questions better.

How is this madoff?? Are there any concrete facts u claim or u just hating?

This is a good product/company. They work hard and deliver. They havent failed on any of the deliverables thus far. I, unlike you, are talking from first hand experience not from rumours. Then again sophistacated investments aren't for everyone as the regulators say. So yeah, stay away

18% on a 3 month deposit? Madness in a market where t bill hovers at 8.5%.

So according to @Horton if you are not with Cytonn you are not "sophisticated" 😂 and according to Cytonn if you are not with them, you are not "smart"😎, enough said.

Yes,their returns do not make sense but invest with them for the time being by the time the pyramid crumbles(if it's a pyramid)you will be in another pyramid scheme enjoying even better returns.

If Cytonn is a pyramid scheme, the earliest it can collapse is late 2017 if they aren't investing in anything but considering that they are at least investing some of their money, the collapse will not happen soon.

Be sharp not smart!

Famous last words!