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Now Imperial Bank under receivership for 12 months
mawinder
#101 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 8:54:29 PM
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Impunity wrote:
watesh wrote:
I just hope no Tier 1 bank lands in the crushing jaws of CBK


Imagine #Member being under receivewhatever...si kenya mataisha!
Sad Sad

Tyranny. For Equity Raila warned us.
Cornelius Vanderbilt
#102 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 9:18:33 PM
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so how safe should we fell. i mean even after all those reports banks give to cbk on regular basis showing their financial health warning signs can be ignored .!!!!! this is bad
whiteowl
#103 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:09:59 PM
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Guest (15), instinct , MatataMingi ,
newfarer, whiteowl

guys have been camping here all day.This couldn't have come at a worse time.It just had to wait for the market to go sub 4,000.October is really a cursed month for stocks.
kyukkamba
#104 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:26:11 PM
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..we were waiting for the bear to squeeze the stocks...nakumbe iko bear nyengine ina fukuza pesa yetu kwa bank.....ni nini yenye tutafanya? Stocks haiwezi nunuwa na pesa haiwezi toka...
Ni Uhuru wa Mbesha...Niguo kana tiguo?
Boris Boyka
#105 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 10:32:50 PM
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kyukkamba wrote:
..we were waiting for the bear to squeeze the stocks...nakumbe iko bear nyengine ina fukuza pesa yetu kwa bank.....ni nini yenye tutafanya? Stocks haiwezi nunuwa na pesa haiwezi toka...

Yawa Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Panic will be allover. Customer Deposits will shrink. Stocks will bleed. Hii pesa na uchumi si ya m***. Such times I refer to Ecclesiastes book, vanity of vanities.
Everybody STEALS, a THIEF is one who's CAUGHT stealing something of LITTLE VALUE. !!!
mic_mic
#106 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2015 11:33:19 PM
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mnandii wrote:
It is sad people. Public confidence in banks is in tatters now just because of one headline. If you understand about fractional reserve then you will appreciate the grim situation. Basically in a bank run where people decide to withdraw their savings from banks the banking industry undergoes a crisis.

@mawinder is hinting that people are withdrawing from other institutions. It is important to remember that when you put your money in a bank, the bank does not safely tack it away in a safety deposit box! The bank actually gives your money out to others. What's more, with fractional reserve, the bank gives out more than it owns.

Therefore if depositors decide to withdraw, only the first few will be able to get money. At some point it becomes overwhelming for the bank and thus liquidity crisis hinted by @mainat.

It's sad folks if people decide to withdraw in droves.

This is just so you understand the beast called a bank. Not meant to scare you please!


why we need bitcoin as a hedge against bank crisis and fiat currency risk.

with bitcoin, you hold your own funds, not a bank which limits how much of your deposit you can access. Even during a bank run

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snipermnoma
#107 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 3:11:33 AM
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This is not good, especially if there is panic. By virtue of operating using the principle of fractional reserves, no bank can survive a bank run. There is a need to remain calm. Imperial bank being in receivership is not necessarily and indicator that other banks have a problem.

That said, in the market bank stocks especially mid tier banks will take a hit due to reduced confidence.
enyands
#108 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 3:28:41 AM
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Don't quote me but I'm meant to understand from a friend working at the watchdog somewhere that there is a bigger shocker on the way on one of banks . I like this Njoroge guy . I'm worried about him stepping on big boys shoes hence his safety . Iv always said we need someone with a different culture to run some institutions. Njoroge has been installed with "outside kenya culture" of doing things . maybe it's because the tempo hasn't been corrupted but I hope he will keep the tempo he got from his previous employer .we need such leaders but not leaders who ask him why he isn't married .
malala
#109 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:00:24 AM
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Did CBK consider the repercussions on the depositors and other customers/stakeholders? Was this something a fine could have fixed? I am no banker but I feel like the punishment does not fit the crime. As another poster mentioned, inasmuch as we argue that it's not liquidation of the bank, Imperial's goose is pretty much cooked. Even if it is given a clean bill of health, the moment it reopens there will be mass withdrawals. Then profitability and liquidity issues will appear for real.
If this was purely a compliance issue CBK may have overreacted.
gatoho
#110 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2015 6:16:24 AM
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enyands wrote:
Don't quote me but I'm meant to understand from a friend working at the watchdog somewhere that there is a bigger shocker on the way on one of banks . I like this Njoroge guy . I'm worried about him stepping on big boys shoes hence his safety . Iv always said we need someone with a different culture to run some institutions. Njoroge has been installed with "outside kenya culture" of doing things . maybe it's because the tempo hasn't been corrupted but I hope he will keep the tempo he got from his previous employer .we need such leaders but not leaders who ask him why he isn't married .

If Da Vinci code is to be believed, Opus dei has an army so he is safe. Now for the shocker..
Foresight..
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