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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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PeterReborn wrote:MaichBlack wrote:PeterReborn wrote:kysse wrote:MaichBlack wrote:kysse wrote:Betty Bayo receives lashings from kenyans.
Ati she's the wife??? She must be part of the con job!!! There is no way she can lie to us she did not know what was going on. Some of the "strategy meetings" and radio recordings were done in their home!!! The 11th hour has come to pass.. Her FB page confirms something else. Ok Kanyari is Kenya's most wanted con man. Ameshikwa? Dr.Kanyari aint going nowhere.He has not broken any law.Nobody has sued him.He preys on the hopeless and gives them hope.This is a good story.Days will pass,we will move on and forget.His following will still be there every sunday. Ever heard of 'obtaining money under false pretence'? Are you aware of the government's responsiblities to Kenyans? In this scenario, the government should be at the forefront. It is not difficult to get the victims of his con jobs and build a water tight case against him. And our incompetent police force can always ask for help from Ali & Namu!! The case is more ethical than legal.Is there evidence that he was obtaining money in exchange of delivering a service.Is there a contract between him and his following whether expressed or implied.He can claim its an act of God.This guy is going nowhere.You can take this to the bank. Wachani story mingi, this is fraud, from prayers for money to potassium permanganate. Ethics kando "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet. That would mean the human and the rest of creation are under two different laws of obedience, with the rest of creation free to express the fullness of the purpose for which it was intended and the human reduced to a system of rules within which the human proves himself worthy of God by fattening Gods purported representative. And why is that? Don't cows tithe their milk, and sacrifice their own for the sake of the kingdom of cows? Cows have no spiritual hierarchy among them.. to whom among their number do they tithe or sacrifice? Man sacrifices to the power beyond, 'God', and the cows to the powers beyond, the benevolent Man who feeds them and answers to their distress. How could cows be domesticated if they had no understanding, and sense of leadership amongst themselves and with Man? Na wilderbeests ama duck billed platipi ?? Mungu wao ni binadamu? In the wilderbeest migration the crossing of the mara river is dangerous due to crocodiles so the beests ask the monkeys if it's safe to pass, then they decide how to cross the river. Can such a relationship necessarily preclude the pattern we're tracing. Ants domesticate aphids for their honeydew and protect them from predators.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:PeterReborn wrote:MaichBlack wrote:PeterReborn wrote:kysse wrote:MaichBlack wrote:kysse wrote:Betty Bayo receives lashings from kenyans.
Ati she's the wife??? She must be part of the con job!!! There is no way she can lie to us she did not know what was going on. Some of the "strategy meetings" and radio recordings were done in their home!!! The 11th hour has come to pass.. Her FB page confirms something else. Ok Kanyari is Kenya's most wanted con man. Ameshikwa? Dr.Kanyari aint going nowhere.He has not broken any law.Nobody has sued him.He preys on the hopeless and gives them hope.This is a good story.Days will pass,we will move on and forget.His following will still be there every sunday. Ever heard of 'obtaining money under false pretence'? Are you aware of the government's responsiblities to Kenyans? In this scenario, the government should be at the forefront. It is not difficult to get the victims of his con jobs and build a water tight case against him. And our incompetent police force can always ask for help from Ali & Namu!! The case is more ethical than legal.Is there evidence that he was obtaining money in exchange of delivering a service.Is there a contract between him and his following whether expressed or implied.He can claim its an act of God.This guy is going nowhere.You can take this to the bank. Wachani story mingi, this is fraud, from prayers for money to potassium permanganate. Ethics kando Magic is in all religion. Even posturing.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet. That would mean the human and the rest of creation are under two different laws of obedience, with the rest of creation free to express the fullness of the purpose for which it was intended and the human reduced to a system of rules within which the human proves himself worthy of God by fattening Gods purported representative. And why is that? Don't cows tithe their milk, and sacrifice their own for the sake of the kingdom of cows? Cows have no spiritual hierarchy among them.. to whom among their number do they tithe or sacrifice? Man sacrifices to the power beyond, 'God', and the cows to the powers beyond, the benevolent Man who feeds them and answers to their distress. How could cows be domesticated if they had no understanding, and sense of leadership amongst themselves and with Man? Na wilderbeests ama duck billed platipi ?? Mungu wao ni binadamu? In the wilderbeest migration the crossing of the mara river is dangerous due to crocodiles so the beests ask the monkeys if it's safe to pass, then they decide how to cross the river. Can such a relationship necessarily preclude the pattern we're tracing. Ants domesticate aphids for their honeydew and protect them from predators. Sawa kaka... so mungu wa wilderbeests ni nyani na wa aphids ni thigiriri... Isorait! 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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whats the harm in a man making some money, we all do it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,911
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nakujua wrote:whats the harm in a man making some money, we all do it. Theft, fraud, robbery, thuggery etc. don't qualify as 'making money' Unless of course you want us to let robbers, grabbers, assassins, counterfeiters, drug dealers etc. be because they are 'just making some money'. Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/10/2014 Posts: 78
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Fan with Kanyiri on twitter
KCSE EXAM!
Apart from Prophet Kanyiri,Name Six other false prophets (6 Marks)
Atheists In Kenya are calling for the arrest of Bishop Kanyiri.
Don’t be surprised if Uhuru appoints #Kanyiri as director of Kenya Seed Company
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:Mtu Biz wrote:tycho wrote:@Mtu biz, if God requires obedience then it's possible that he may require an expression of value, and money is a measure of value.
So money can be involved, and the fattening of the shepherd to provide a test for those who covet. That would mean the human and the rest of creation are under two different laws of obedience, with the rest of creation free to express the fullness of the purpose for which it was intended and the human reduced to a system of rules within which the human proves himself worthy of God by fattening Gods purported representative. And why is that? Don't cows tithe their milk, and sacrifice their own for the sake of the kingdom of cows? Cows have no spiritual hierarchy among them.. to whom among their number do they tithe or sacrifice? Man sacrifices to the power beyond, 'God', and the cows to the powers beyond, the benevolent Man who feeds them and answers to their distress. How could cows be domesticated if they had no understanding, and sense of leadership amongst themselves and with Man? Na wilderbeests ama duck billed platipi ?? Mungu wao ni binadamu? In the wilderbeest migration the crossing of the mara river is dangerous due to crocodiles so the beests ask the monkeys if it's safe to pass, then they decide how to cross the river. Can such a relationship necessarily preclude the pattern we're tracing. Ants domesticate aphids for their honeydew and protect them from predators. Sawa kaka... so mungu wa wilderbeests ni nyani na wa aphids ni thigiriri... Isorait! Not exactly. All of nature has intelligence and it can't be shown religious like behavior involving prescribed code, rituals and relations that answer questions of purpose aren't shared across levels of being and consciousness. And even some motifs can be seen across beings.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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Takeshi wrote:
Fan with Kanyiri on twitter
KCSE EXAM!
Apart from Prophet Kanyiri,Name Six other false prophets (6 Marks)
Atheists In Kenya are calling for the arrest of Bishop Kanyiri.
Don’t be surprised if Uhuru appoints #Kanyiri as director of Kenya Seed Company
They took Kanyari to court but were shocked to find he registered his church under the ministry of Agriculture...so kupanda mbegu ni legal kwake.
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