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guru267
#101 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:12:20 AM
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masukuma wrote:
guru267 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
if anyone names a child 'God' and everyone else minds their own business God will not be bothered!!


So is that the Law of @masukuma or the Gospel according to @masukuma or the revelation to @masukuma??

that is the law that people should live by! one which asks people to mind their own business. After all you will be accountable to God for yourself!! Everyone came into this world in exactly the same manner - why should others seek to dictate to you what you should do yet it causes them no harm? the law should be 'your rights end where mine begin'. Why would people elevate themselves above others based on writings that were written 100 generations ago by people who thought the world was round, heaven was above the clouds and thought God was absent minded when he created swine? If you cannot take advise from your grand father on whom you should marry why would you take advise from someone elses great great great great great...grand father on what you should name your child?


If I choose to follow someone who wrote 100 generations ago how does it hurt you??

If a country goes for killing of apostates and chopping of thieves hands why not let them be??

Or is it that everyone should follow this "free will civilized law" or suffer invasions from the West??
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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guru267
#102 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 1:35:48 AM
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The same people saying here vengeance is ONLY for God bla bla bla... they will gladly accept death penalty for a serial killer!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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murchr
#103 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 4:01:01 AM
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guru267 wrote:
The same people saying here vengeance is ONLY for God bla bla bla... they will gladly accept death penalty for a serial killer!


Are you confusing the secularism to Christianity is it that complex?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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dunkang
#104 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 6:32:08 AM
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Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi

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masukuma
#105 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:16:31 AM
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guru267 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
guru267 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
if anyone names a child 'God' and everyone else minds their own business God will not be bothered!!


So is that the Law of @masukuma or the Gospel according to @masukuma or the revelation to @masukuma??

that is the law that people should live by! one which asks people to mind their own business. After all you will be accountable to God for yourself!! Everyone came into this world in exactly the same manner - why should others seek to dictate to you what you should do yet it causes them no harm? the law should be 'your rights end where mine begin'. Why would people elevate themselves above others based on writings that were written 100 generations ago by people who thought the world was round, heaven was above the clouds and thought God was absent minded when he created swine? If you cannot take advise from your grand father on whom you should marry why would you take advise from someone elses great great great great great...grand father on what you should name your child?


If I choose to follow someone who wrote 100 generations ago how does it hurt you??

If a country goes for killing of apostates and chopping of thieves hands why not let them be??

Or is it that everyone should follow this "free will civilized law" or suffer invasions from the West??


a) I see you are now 'seeing' my side -if you CHOOSE someone's great great great.... grand father - the choice is yours!!! you are very much entitled to it.

b) if a some people in whatever country on the planet CHOOSES to infringe the rights of others to make a decision like the one we have just allowed you to make in (a) above. We will not let them be because they are infringing on the rights of that individual!! it's an individuals burden not some zealots burden! We let you choose your path let others choose their paths we are all the same here.

my point let not others think they are more qualified or better placed to dictate to me or some random female in sundan what the truth is!! they can preach and attempt to proselytize via words but never cause bodily harm to the person who decides to follow a different path. tumekuwachia uchague wacha wengine wachague!!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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masukuma
#106 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:26:27 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Or is it that everyone should follow this "free will civilized law" or suffer invasions from the West??

How does it feel when others attack/invades you and your country? or a country that you feel represents what you follow? bad sindio? exactly that is how individuals feel when a society decides how they shall live after they have chosen for themselves a path to live. after all - no one really knows what is awaiting us. I guess the what the west is saying is let them be and we shall let you be!
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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guru267
#107 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:09:46 AM
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masukuma wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Or is it that everyone should follow this "free will civilized law" or suffer invasions from the West??

How does it feel when others attack/invades you and your country? or a country that you feel represents what you follow? bad sindio? exactly that is how individuals feel when a society decides how they shall live after they have chosen for themselves a path to live. after all - no one really knows what is awaiting us. I guess the what the west is saying is let them be and we shall let you be!


Those people who feel oppressed by Sharia ya Mungu can flee to "free will" countries like Kenya and UK!

But thinking that you will simply walk into these countries that are governed by the Law of God and get them into your "secular free will" thinking you are very deluded, naive and misguided!

You think Sudan started chopping hands off last week and you think they will stop tomorrow just because Uncle Sam and his UN invade!?

That's what you will never understand!! When you invade a Muslim state it always looks like victory in the start until you are withdrawing a decade later!

Palestine was invaded 65 years ago and that stuff still be going down!
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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Othelo
#108 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:33:32 AM
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Guys waste a whole lot of time discussing religion. When you die ... ashes to ashes in the bloody end of you ...kaput!
Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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masukuma
#109 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:40:18 AM
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guru267 wrote:
masukuma wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Or is it that everyone should follow this "free will civilized law" or suffer invasions from the West??

How does it feel when others attack/invades you and your country? or a country that you feel represents what you follow? bad sindio? exactly that is how individuals feel when a society decides how they shall live after they have chosen for themselves a path to live. after all - no one really knows what is awaiting us. I guess the what the west is saying is let them be and we shall let you be!


Those people who feel oppressed by Sharia ya Mungu can flee to "free will" countries like Kenya and UK!

But thinking that you will simply walk into these countries that are governed by the Law of God and get them into your "secular free will" thinking you are very deluded, naive and misguided!

You think Sudan started chopping hands off last week and you think they will stop tomorrow just because Uncle Sam and his UN invade!?

That's what you will never understand!! When you invade a Muslim state it always looks like victory in the start until you are withdrawing a decade later!

Palestine was invaded 65 years ago and that stuff still be going down!

Meme theory my friend meme theory!!
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Ideas cause ideas and help evolve new ideas. They interact with each other and with other mental forces in the same brain, in neighboring brains, and thanks to global communication, in far distant, foreign brains. And they also interact with the external surroundings to produce in toto a burstwise advance in evolution that is far beyond anything to hit the evolutionary scene yet.

everyone desires answers and memes of these answers will penetrate even the most conservative of countries that you hail as pillars of 'sharia'. it may not be won this century but information flow will kill that version of radicalism you are preaching. homo sapiens have roved this planet for 195,000 years what is another 100? information flow will not and cannot be stopped!! you are fighting a loosing battle the conservative ideas like a pendulums bob is hitting full trajectory and will swing back again as seen in these photos....

Kwani iranians just became muslims in 1979? no they have always been muslims and they were changed until the shah was thrown out but the same will happen again... it's happening even faster due to memes.
Iran


Kabul in the 70s


Osama at 15!


no one can stop time
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washiku
#110 Posted : Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:19:39 AM
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This reminds me of something...

Some years back I visited my friend in Nakuru. When there, he had become a great follower of a certain pastor in Nakuru(cant remember his name, he is the guy who was once praying for some dead pastors so that they can resurrect). So in the evening, my friend invited me to watch with him a certain "MOVIE" of a certain convert who was previously in devil worship. So this guy was naratting many episodes he went through, in Nairobi, Nakuru, Nyahururu etc. Scaring experiences. Now one of the things he was saying was that at 3am there is usually a ceremony by devil worshipers and Christians should always fight it back by praying so much. Then something funny he said. When praying, we should not keep saying in Jesus' name. We should always ensure its in Jesus Christ's name. That when you leave it at the name Jesus, it could be anyone. There are many people called Jesus and thus the devil is not afraid of that name Jesus. What sends him scattering is Jesus Christ or Christ. There can not be any confusion on who is Jesus Christ. But Jesus on its own can be contested.

#ButThatNightWasVeryScaringCozOfTheThingsThatGuyWasSaying
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