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Best Money Market fund in Kenya
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#101 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 8:29:41 AM
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anyone with current interest rates for those with less than 1M kshs?"
wal6807
#102 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 9:00:54 PM
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Does any one know if market funds are bound by the regulator to keep certain standards I.e Max number of days between request for funds and actual receipt ?
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jomari78
#103 Posted : Friday, March 27, 2015 11:08:04 PM
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Was pleasantly surprised recently by old Mutual's I-invest that has started paying out via mpesa immediately a request for payment is lodged. It now works just like mobile banking. Too bad their returns are nothing to write home about compared to the other funds
doubletap
#104 Posted : Saturday, March 28, 2015 2:45:34 PM
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Have been reading up on this tread and others and matters investments wazua sure is a good place to start. Was wondering if there is any fund that could be classified as a passive investment fund according to this link and what really is an active or passive fund.

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Kenahzir
#105 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2016 4:08:55 PM
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Nice read.
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mwenza
#106 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2016 1:09:27 PM
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mkonomtupu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
XSK wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
mchambuzi wrote:
mkonomtupu wrote:
ecstacy wrote:
If you are not in a hurry, you are better off buying NSE blue chips to the end of time..


why buy shares with dividend yields of 1-5% when you can get 8-10% on the money market without risking your capital


8-10%? Thats low, inflation is at 7.15% although in actual sense its usually much higher. That means you are making 2-3% gain. In shares you can make more from capital gains not just the dividends. I would opt for a portfolio of blue chip companies if I was risk averse


To make it easier, assume you had been buying SCOM, BAT and KCB shares over the past three years.

Look at the share price appreciation and dividend yield and that money market fund is exposed as a joke.


At that point the dividend yield was good 7-10% but right now the same stocks are over-valued e.g SCOM has p/e of 36(overvalued highest should be 18). That means you to wait 36 years. It's unlikely that company earnings will match up with those prices any time soon. For the record i bought my shares at rock bottom prices KCB 21, NIC 24, kengen 8.3 but I have taken capital gains and re-invested in money market. It depends on timing


@Mkonomtupu

Thanks for that education on the money market fund. Its basically a place to keep/park your money as you wait for an opportunity to strike! Meanwhile the money will not be losing value.


I assume I am talking to Wazua veterans here.

And where do we imagine these fund managers take your money? HAHA

Let us put this in perspective. After waiting 12 solid months, the fund promises me 8-10% in a country with 7% inflation at best and we are happy?

To put this to rest.

Buy KQ today 13.50, sell on 2015 FY announcement.

Buy NBK today 31.75, sell by March 2015.

Buy HFCK today 33.75, sell March 2015.

NB: Any negative NSE reaction on sign of fed tapering and sell the above before Sept 2014 for a lower re-entry.

We shall compare notes at this time next year OR before Sept 2014.

And just to hammer the point closer home, buy SCOM TODAY at 11.70/= and sell by this 2014 full year results in June therabouts. Between now and then, price appreciation estimate is 13.50, that is 15% up from TODAYs 'over valued' price for this GROWTH stock!! HAHA



I decided to check out your calculations over this lazy period
Assuming I had put in a million equally into your four stocks i.e. 250,000
KQ=250,000/13.5=18518*8.5=157,407
NBK=250,000/31.75=7874*24.5=190944
HF=250,000/33.75=7407*45=333333
Safcom=250,000/11.7=21367*14.05=300,213
Total =981,899
Money market=1,000,000*0.093(effective annual yield)=93000
Total=1,093,000


Just like you, have also decided to check out and update your calculations, after exactly 2yrs, during this lazy period:-

KQ = 18,518 X 4.90 = 90,738/=
NBK = 7874 X 16.55 = 130,314/=
HF = 7407 X 22.00 = 162,954/=
SCOM =21,367 X 16.10=344,008/=
TOTAL = 728,014/=

MMF= 1,093,000 X 1.093 = 1, 194,649/=

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PeterReborn
#107 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 2:05:12 PM
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Any reviews on Pan Africa Pesa Plus?I am sourcing for a good money market fund when I can deposit some amount every month.The returns on pesa plus looks attractive during this bear.
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washiku
#108 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:01:20 PM
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PeterReborn wrote:
Any reviews on Pan Africa Pesa Plus?I am sourcing for a good money market fund when I can deposit some amount every month.The returns on pesa plus looks attractive during this bear.


I recently received a Product brief from a "Wealth Manager" who changed jobs from my current fund to Cynton. This is a summary of what she wrote:

"The CMS is a product that seeks to give clients higher returns than they would otherwise get on their own due to economies of scale by providing a platform for consolidation of funds from various investors and accessibility to the most attractive opportunities. We invest in a diversified range of products such as bank deposits and real estate-backed commercial papers hence the high yields.

The current rate is

For KES
1 Month: 18% (p.a)
3 Months: 18% (p.a)
6 Months: 18% (p.a)
12 Months: 18% (p.a)"

http://www.cytonn.com/

Haven't tried them yet but that rate sounds good.smile
enyands
#109 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 5:17:33 PM
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washiku wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Any reviews on Pan Africa Pesa Plus?I am sourcing for a good money market fund when I can deposit some amount every month.The returns on pesa plus looks attractive during this bear.


I recently received a Product brief from a "Wealth Manager" who changed jobs from my current fund to Cynton. This is a summary of what she wrote:

"The CMS is a product that seeks to give clients higher returns than they would otherwise get on their own due to economies of scale by providing a platform for consolidation of funds from various investors and accessibility to the most attractive opportunities. We invest in a diversified range of products such as bank deposits and real estate-backed commercial papers hence the high yields.

The current rate is

For KES
1 Month: 18% (p.a)
3 Months: 18% (p.a)
6 Months: 18% (p.a)
12 Months: 18% (p.a)"

http://www.cytonn.com/

Haven't tried them yet but that rate sounds good.smile


Minimum acceptable deposit is 1,000,000
PeterReborn
#110 Posted : Wednesday, January 27, 2016 6:06:25 PM
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Joined: 1/3/2014
Posts: 1,063
washiku wrote:
PeterReborn wrote:
Any reviews on Pan Africa Pesa Plus?I am sourcing for a good money market fund when I can deposit some amount every month.The returns on pesa plus looks attractive during this bear.


I recently received a Product brief from a "Wealth Manager" who changed jobs from my current fund to Cynton. This is a summary of what she wrote:

"The CMS is a product that seeks to give clients higher returns than they would otherwise get on their own due to economies of scale by providing a platform for consolidation of funds from various investors and accessibility to the most attractive opportunities. We invest in a diversified range of products such as bank deposits and real estate-backed commercial papers hence the high yields.

The current rate is

For KES
1 Month: 18% (p.a)
3 Months: 18% (p.a)
6 Months: 18% (p.a)
12 Months: 18% (p.a)"

http://www.cytonn.com/

Haven't tried them yet but that rate sounds good.smile

Thanks Washiku.I spoke to them and they said the minimum investment is 1 m.It is not therefore optimal for me as I need a fund I can contribute to every month.
Consistency is better than intensity
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