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guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# John 5:17 But Jesus replied, “My Father is always working, and so am I.”
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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Metch wrote:obiero wrote:mkate_nusu wrote:People on this forum were warned to avoid this monkey @guru254 misled us fair and square.. now the bandia firm is on its deathbed, no GoK stimulus in sight.. Sad really.. The pot calling the kettle black. lol. miles apart
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi
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Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# I would usually consider Deferred Income if the management was like Jubilee or TPSEA. I would be careful about Deferred Income claims from HAFR. Anyway, there's a new team in place... Let's see what they can do. *No, I am not advocating buying HAFR. I am not a shareholder. I am simply an observer.* Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# I would usually consider Deferred Income if the management was like Jubilee or TPSEA. I would be careful about Deferred Income claims from HAFR. Anyway, there's a new team in place... Let's see what they can do. *No, I am not advocating buying HAFR. I am not a shareholder. I am simply an observer.* A biased observer who declares life on HAFR when death is certain and death on KQ where life is certain!!
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# I would usually consider Deferred Income if the management was like Jubilee or TPSEA. I would be careful about Deferred Income claims from HAFR. Anyway, there's a new team in place... Let's see what they can do. *No, I am not advocating buying HAFR. I am not a shareholder. I am simply an observer.* A biased observer who declares life on HAFR when death is certain and death on KQ where life is certain!!  Poor @Obiero - Clutching at straws. I haven't looked at HAFR in detail but does it have NEGATIVE Equity like KQ? No Taxpayer bailout either. If HAFR dies, it dies. If it lives, it lives. KQ is dead to the Ordinary Shareholder no matter how much Ngunze pays [perks, free upgrades] you to pump it up. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# I would usually consider Deferred Income if the management was like Jubilee or TPSEA. I would be careful about Deferred Income claims from HAFR. Anyway, there's a new team in place... Let's see what they can do. *No, I am not advocating buying HAFR. I am not a shareholder. I am simply an observer.* A biased observer who declares life on HAFR when death is certain and death on KQ where life is certain!! Poor @Obiero - Clutching at straws. I haven't looked at HAFR in detail but does it have NEGATIVE Equity like KQ? No Taxpayer bailout either. If HAFR dies, it dies. If it lives, it lives. KQ is dead to the Ordinary Shareholder no matter how much Ngunze pays [perks, free upgrades] you to pump it up. Someone needs to crunch the numbers for HAL. I belief the true valuation (NPV of all cashflows from lands currently held) is greater than the market capitalisation. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/25/2012 Posts: 4,105 Location: 08c
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sparkly wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# I would usually consider Deferred Income if the management was like Jubilee or TPSEA. I would be careful about Deferred Income claims from HAFR. Anyway, there's a new team in place... Let's see what they can do. *No, I am not advocating buying HAFR. I am not a shareholder. I am simply an observer.* A biased observer who declares life on HAFR when death is certain and death on KQ where life is certain!! Poor @Obiero - Clutching at straws. I haven't looked at HAFR in detail but does it have NEGATIVE Equity like KQ? No Taxpayer bailout either. If HAFR dies, it dies. If it lives, it lives. KQ is dead to the Ordinary Shareholder no matter how much Ngunze pays [perks, free upgrades] you to pump it up. Someone needs to crunch the numbers for HAL. I belief the true valuation (NPV of all cashflows from lands currently held) is greater than the market capitalisation. This they would have advertised from the Himalayas!! Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# I would usually consider Deferred Income if the management was like Jubilee or TPSEA. I would be careful about Deferred Income claims from HAFR. Anyway, there's a new team in place... Let's see what they can do. *No, I am not advocating buying HAFR. I am not a shareholder. I am simply an observer.* A biased observer who declares life on HAFR when death is certain and death on KQ where life is certain!! Poor @Obiero - Clutching at straws. I haven't looked at HAFR in detail but does it have NEGATIVE Equity like KQ? No Taxpayer bailout either. If HAFR dies, it dies. If it lives, it lives. KQ is dead to the Ordinary Shareholder no matter how much Ngunze pays [perks, free upgrades] you to pump it up. Soon you shall eat those words
KQ ABP 4.26
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/3/2007 Posts: 18,346 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# I would usually consider Deferred Income if the management was like Jubilee or TPSEA. I would be careful about Deferred Income claims from HAFR. Anyway, there's a new team in place... Let's see what they can do. *No, I am not advocating buying HAFR. I am not a shareholder. I am simply an observer.* A biased observer who declares life on HAFR when death is certain and death on KQ where life is certain!! Poor @Obiero - Clutching at straws. I haven't looked at HAFR in detail but does it have NEGATIVE Equity like KQ? No Taxpayer bailout either. If HAFR dies, it dies. If it lives, it lives. KQ is dead to the Ordinary Shareholder no matter how much Ngunze pays [perks, free upgrades] you to pump it up. Soon you shall eat those words Like I ate the dividends of FY 2015 from KK? KenRe? Unga? I&M? Williamson? And as I expect to eat for FY 2016 from KK, KenRe, Unga, I&M and perhaps Williamson. Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 14,213 Location: nairobi
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VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:obiero wrote:VituVingiSana wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:Spikes wrote:guru267 wrote:What about deferred income?
Are all the naysayers factoring this in their doom?? Eti deffered income! Did you see it? Absolute deception used by lawyers. Wait for shafting! Anyone else with less hot air and more analysis?? Ref# I would usually consider Deferred Income if the management was like Jubilee or TPSEA. I would be careful about Deferred Income claims from HAFR. Anyway, there's a new team in place... Let's see what they can do. *No, I am not advocating buying HAFR. I am not a shareholder. I am simply an observer.* A biased observer who declares life on HAFR when death is certain and death on KQ where life is certain!! Poor @Obiero - Clutching at straws. I haven't looked at HAFR in detail but does it have NEGATIVE Equity like KQ? No Taxpayer bailout either. If HAFR dies, it dies. If it lives, it lives. KQ is dead to the Ordinary Shareholder no matter how much Ngunze pays [perks, free upgrades] you to pump it up. Soon you shall eat those words Like I ate the dividends of FY 2015 from KK? KenRe? Unga? I&M? Williamson? And as I expect to eat for FY 2016 from KK, KenRe, Unga, I&M and perhaps Williamson. LOL. Kwani COOP & HF don't pay dividend. We don't have to all buy Kenol Kobil, some of us are fine with the weakling KQ. Time will prove our insanity or lack thereof
KQ ABP 4.26
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