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Cytonn Investments
tony stark
#1061 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2021 5:37:41 PM
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Wait now it's a moral argument? What happened to the company is dead.
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Paul utapatikana .... do you think wazua admin will not provide your fake email address and your IP address.

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[quote=paulkimani]People are being SUED by CYTONN for writing on social media that they have not been paid.

Investors have not been paid and yet a company is trying to silence them.
Our constitution allows for free speech. Cytonn is trying to stop an investor having the right to freedom of speech. Let that sink in.

Cytonn is using a baseless legal tactic to try stall attention away from
The Fact they have not paid clients. This suit will not hold in a court of law.

A QUOTE:
‘Cytonn Investments has chosen to sue a Kenyan pilot after he chose to vent his frustrations with the company on his social media pages over their failure to commit to refund his investments with the firm running into millions of shillings. Do you think Cytonn has any moral justifications to do this?This case should be very interesting for would be investors in Kenya’, Jaybee Matheka posted on his Facebook page.“

Link: https://kenyanmarketinte...lights-on-social-media/[/quote]
tony stark
#1062 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2021 5:45:17 PM
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This Kimani chap is such a comedian. Next queen aka kimani alter ego ..... atakuja with new information.
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aemathenge wrote:
paulkimani wrote:
Find out yourself, I’m not your servant smile


The fun part is that I don't need to.

You would be screaming from the Mountain top for all the universe and the galaxy to hear had Cytonn, in any way, "lost".

paulkimani
#1063 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2021 6:10:36 PM
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Joined: 1/19/2016
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Don’t threaten me Tony Stark.
Angelica _ann
#1064 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2021 6:29:02 PM
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Joined: 12/7/2012
Posts: 11,935
tony stark wrote:

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This Kimani chap is such a comedian. Next queen aka kimani alter ego ..... atakuja with new information.
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aemathenge wrote:
paulkimani wrote:
Find out yourself, I’m not your servant smile


The fun part is that I don't need to.

You would be screaming from the Mountain top for all the universe and the galaxy to hear had Cytonn, in any way, "lost".



Anyway he kept the thread alive and going with his claims and allegations!!! Annoyed some people, while the 'neutrals' *-like me-* enjoyed smile smile smile
In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
aemathenge
#1065 Posted : Monday, February 08, 2021 8:32:08 PM
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Joined: 10/18/2008
Posts: 3,434
Location: Kerugoya
paulkimani wrote:
Don’t threaten me Tony Stark.


This is such a difficult decision to make.

I simply cannot make up my mind which is which.

I mean, sample this:

Is it (a)
Is it (b)
Is it (c)

Where:

(a) Or What?

(b) Uta do?

(c) All of the above.

Some things in this Our Beloved Virtual Republic of Wazua. So very frustratingly difficult decisions to make.
kaka2za
#1066 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2021 10:38:21 AM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/3/2008
Posts: 4,058
Location: Gwitu
Is Cytonn-bashing a fulltime job?
Truth forever on the scaffold
Wrong forever on the throne
(James Russell Rowell)
sqft
#1067 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2021 1:57:55 PM
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Joined: 1/10/2015
Posts: 961
Location: Kenya
This doesn't look good.


LINK

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Last Saturday, Dande was seated in a boardroom with two assistants facing a slew of questions from over 450 investors over the internet, many of whom wanted out.

Thirteen of them including Kenneth Maweu Kasinga from Nakuru had gone to court and sued both Cytonn and CMA claiming Cytonn has defaulted on his Sh3 million investment that was to mature on September 7.

“The 1st defendant’s statement that it gives no assurance that it will pay the amount invested upon maturity is worrying and I stand to suffer irreparable loss if the orders sought are not granted,” said Kasinga.

The court documents also indicate that the investor was promised an attractive 19 per cent return on investment which CMA said is unrealistic in this market.

Dande said Cytonn was forced to liquidate its positions in money market investments and real estate projects last week to pay off investors after CMA sounded an alarm of Cytonn defaulting on more than Sh122 million in mature investments.

“We have put assets on sale to get that cash, we have sold off real estate projects including Westlands 22 and liquidated positions in money market funds to pay off investors who demanded their money back, especially Friday.”

“We have also paused projects that require long-term funding to improve liquidity, we are doing everything we can to be able to refund your money,” Dande told investors in the virtual meeting.

When Celestine Olilo asked to know why her money was rolled over without her consent and yet she needed the money due to the Covid-19 pandemic she was told: “This is a pooled investment, paying everyone would result in more losses.”

The investors were also asking about the delay in interest payments. Dande, however, said the interest payments will be capitalised and paid after 12 months. He said that investors should not go to CMA, saying the regulator will not help them.

“People who invested in Uchumi or Mumias were never helped by the regulator, it is the integrity of the fund manager, the investment strategy and the assets invested in that matter.”
Proverbs 13:11 Dishonest money dwindles away, but whoever gathers money little by little makes it grow.
Queen
#1068 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2021 5:18:03 PM
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Joined: 11/21/2018
Posts: 564
Location: Britain
sqft wrote:
This doesn't look good.


LINK

Quote:
Last Saturday, Dande was seated in a boardroom with two assistants facing a slew of questions from over 450 investors over the internet, many of whom wanted out.

Thirteen of them including Kenneth Maweu Kasinga from Nakuru had gone to court and sued both Cytonn and CMA claiming Cytonn has defaulted on his Sh3 million investment that was to mature on September 7.

“The 1st defendant’s statement that it gives no assurance that it will pay the amount invested upon maturity is worrying and I stand to suffer irreparable loss if the orders sought are not granted,” said Kasinga.

The court documents also indicate that the investor was promised an attractive 19 per cent return on investment which CMA said is unrealistic in this market.

Dande said Cytonn was forced to liquidate its positions in money market investments and real estate projects last week to pay off investors after CMA sounded an alarm of Cytonn defaulting on more than Sh122 million in mature investments.

“We have put assets on sale to get that cash, we have sold off real estate projects including Westlands 22 and liquidated positions in money market funds to pay off investors who demanded their money back, especially Friday.”

“We have also paused projects that require long-term funding to improve liquidity, we are doing everything we can to be able to refund your money,” Dande told investors in the virtual meeting.

When Celestine Olilo asked to know why her money was rolled over without her consent and yet she needed the money due to the Covid-19 pandemic she was told: “This is a pooled investment, paying everyone would result in more losses.”

The investors were also asking about the delay in interest payments. Dande, however, said the interest payments will be capitalised and paid after 12 months. He said that investors should not go to CMA, saying the regulator will not help them.

“People who invested in Uchumi or Mumias were never helped by the regulator, it is the integrity of the fund manager, the investment strategy and the assets invested in that matter.”


Please don't spoil the party with this "uncalled for" information. Even the "neutrals" won't like it.

Wazua is quite an interesting platform to be. As soon as some people start celebrating a phyrric victory, they are promptly put back to their place with unpalatable information.
tony stark
#1069 Posted : Tuesday, February 09, 2021 6:06:13 PM
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Posts: 947
paulkimani wrote:
Don’t threaten me Tony Stark.


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Please. I haven't threatened you and truly wish you the best.

Anyway good luck with your defamation campaign can't wait to see what you come up with next.


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paulkimani
#1070 Posted : Wednesday, February 10, 2021 11:00:58 AM
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Joined: 1/19/2016
Posts: 204
Tony stark: “Paul utapatikana .... do you think wazua admin will not provide your fake email address and your IP address. “

That is a threat. Once again, do not threaten me or anyone else on a forum. Shame on you
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