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VituVingiSana
#15571 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 12:05:23 AM
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obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ has been eating FX for years.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
littledove
#15572 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 7:57:22 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ has been eating FX for years.

No more fx for KQ, it will be paying its loans to kenya government in ksh, i dont know
if the information is in public domain.
There are only two emotions in the stock market, fear and hope. The problem is, you hope when you should fear and fear when you should hope
obiero
#15573 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 7:58:03 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ has been eating FX for years.

I understand that you bought KQ at KES 570 and sold at KES 13, but time is a healer, let go and let God

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15574 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 8:12:47 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
littledove wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ has been eating FX for years.

No more fx for KQ, it will be paying its loans to kenya government in ksh, i dont know
if the information is in public domain.

Ticket sales my friend. Majority of the inflows on KQ are in USD

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#15575 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 10:04:08 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ has been eating FX for years.

No more fx for KQ, it will be paying its loans to kenya government in ksh, i dont know
if the information is in public domain.

Ticket sales my friend. Majority of the inflows on KQ are in USD

Who wants payment in KES for fuel, interest on loans, leases, landing fees?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
obiero
#15576 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 10:42:38 AM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ has been eating FX for years.

No more fx for KQ, it will be paying its loans to kenya government in ksh, i dont know
if the information is in public domain.

Ticket sales my friend. Majority of the inflows on KQ are in USD

Who wants payment in KES for fuel, interest on loans, leases, landing fees?

Inflows kaka. Ofcourse there are FX conversions here and there. Plus some tied up FX in Sudan, DRC, Burundi

KQ ABP 4.26
MaichBlack
#15577 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 12:33:15 PM
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Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,833
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things.

The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country.

The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds.

Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance.

A more apt write up would be;

@Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it...
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#15578 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 12:39:12 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things.

The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country.

The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds.

Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance.

A more apt write up would be;

@Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it...

Thou shall not covet another man's income nor lack of it. Remember on 17.01.2025 KQ share touched KES 8.50 and @Obiero did not sell. I'm not here for the mid term brother, this a long play. Watch and learn

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15579 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 6:12:15 PM
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KQ management now making all the right business calls https://www.businessdail...ck-landing-slots-5106200

KQ ABP 4.26
obiero
#15580 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 6:25:52 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

fleet data indicate that three of the airline’s Dreamliners remain parked, with six units active, bringing the total number of delivered units to nine.

>>> So only 6 of 9 Boeing 787s are flying!

Data shows that 5Y-KZA, the first 787 delivered to the airline and named ‘The Great Rift Valley,’ has been parked in Nairobi. Meanwhile, 5Y-KZC and 5Y-KZH have also been parked as part of ongoing maintenance challenges.

>>> Good luck to KQ.

6/9 is not too shabby for Boeing. Remember there's a global issue in parts. However, KQ fleet really needs to expand https://www.kenya-airway...-aircraft/boeing-787-8/

Surely @Obiero!!! Even by your standard this is a new extreme. 33% of Boeings grounded for up to 6 months and counting and it is "not to shabby"???

You have taken defending the indefensible to a new high (or is it low? Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly)

New high 😂

Ipo siku https://youtu.be/15j8jVaf8wk?si=QRye0_9kU5cfmXBC

KQ ABP 4.26
MaichBlack
#15581 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 7:11:09 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,833
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things.

The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country.

The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds.

Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance.

A more apt write up would be;

@Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it...

Thou shall not covet another man's income nor lack of it. Remember on 17.01.2025 KQ share touched KES 8.50 and @Obiero did not sell. I'm not here for the mid term brother, this a long play. Watch and learn

Oh. Like knowing how much @VVS apparently bought and sold KQ for?? I gerrit. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
MaichBlack
#15582 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 7:13:37 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/22/2009
Posts: 7,833
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ has been eating FX for years.

I understand that you bought KQ at KES 570 and sold at KES 13, but time is a healer, let go and let God

Was this you @Obiero???
Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
obiero
#15583 Posted : Friday, July 04, 2025 7:26:17 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 14,211
Location: nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

KPLC, KenGen > KQ

KPLC generally generates revenue in excess of KES 200B annually, so can be a fair comparison. Also, near nil contribution to FX for the state, while KQ generates loads of that. Tulia kidogo mzee, the KQ tide is turning

KQ has been eating FX for years.

I understand that you bought KQ at KES 570 and sold at KES 13, but time is a healer, let go and let God

Was this you @Obiero???

Yes. That's me in glorious multicolor. Mambo yangu ni ngumu kuliko kesi ya shamba. Don't try to understand me

KQ ABP 4.26
VituVingiSana
#15584 Posted : Sunday, July 06, 2025 12:52:05 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things.

The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country.

The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds.

Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance.

A more apt write up would be;

@Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it...

Thou shall not covet another man's income nor lack of it. Remember on 17.01.2025 KQ share touched KES 8.50 and @Obiero did not sell. I'm not here for the mid term brother, this a long play. Watch and learn

Oh. Like knowing how much @VVS apparently bought and sold KQ for?? I gerrit. Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

I was scratching my head as to when I bought KQ shares at the price @Obiero was on about d'oh!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#15585 Posted : Sunday, July 06, 2025 12:53:55 AM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,342
Location: Nairobi
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
MaichBlack wrote:
obiero wrote:
littledove wrote:
Six more KQ flights added to Nairobi-London route as Kenya, UK ink deal
Kenya and the United Kingdom have agreed to introduce six additional Kenya Airways flights between Nairobi and London every week in a move which President William Ruto says is aimed at addressing persistent cargo and passenger challenges.

The deal was made after President Ruto met UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer, where they signed a renewed Kenya-UK strategic partnership set to unlock major investments, create jobs, and boost Kenya's global competitiveness in trade, climate, technology, and security.

This is a clear indication government is very serious on KQ.

In GoK we trust. KQ is a national asset and will be the last firm that GoK can let fail.

Being a National assest and being profitable are two totally different things.

The other day Raila said he doesn't care if KQ makes losses every year provided it is bringing people (tourists, investors etc.) to the country.

The government mught be okay with a functional KQ. If it breaks even, they would be very happy. Profits and ROI might not be a significant thing in their minds.

Collateral alignment. Remember, KQ is now profitable both above and below the line. Only issue pending is negative equity, which is being addressed aggressively. Meanwhile, Kenya Airways began the year with a share price of 3.83 KES and has since gained 41% on that price valuation, ranking it 13th on the NSE in terms of YTD performance.

A more apt write up would be;

@Obiero bought KQ shares at Kshs. 6.96/= and the current price is Kshs. 5.18/= a 25% paper loss or Kshs. 1.075 Million plus commissions ranking it...
Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Wacha opportunity loss!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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