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Briatm, Britam, Britam sounds like sweet candy!
actuarywahisa
#1021 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 1:27:02 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
actuarywahisa wrote:
Now why is the IFC deal turning into a rally? Kwani it's a takeover?

it's a vote of confidence for a big fund to be a shareholder


OK. What's the difference between Britam and ARM? is it the extra cash being pumped in and available to work vs retiring of debt? Or is it just better PR?

I thought profits sustain share price and not just confidence or hope of a bright future.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
alotoftalk
#1022 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 4:18:56 AM
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My initial thought was Munga flipping his "Rawat" shares to IFC. But if these are newly created shares being subscribed for (j.mp/2i4HTa0) then my guess is that they ran into capital adequacy issues after resetting their FY reserves based on gross premium valuation methodology (which they adopted in the current year) plus mark-to-market of their portfolio and impairment of some of KES 3.2 Bn in deposits held with financial institutions a proportion of which must be at either Chase or Imperial.

The dilution by IFC therefore became a necessary evil.

The subscription date of 30/12/2016, a day just before the FY books close (31/12/2016) is also an interesting tidbit.
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Ebenyo
#1023 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 6:17:59 AM
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alotoftalk wrote:
My initial thought was Munga flipping his "Rawat" shares to IFC. But if these are newly created shares being subscribed for (j.mp/2i4HTa0) then my guess is that they ran into capital adequacy issues after resetting their FY reserves based on gross premium valuation methodology (which they adopted in the current year) plus mark-to-market of their portfolio and impairment of some of KES 3.2 Bn in deposits held with financial institutions a proportion of which must be at either Chase or Imperial.

The dilution by IFC therefore became a necessary evil.

The subscription date of 30/12/2016, a day just before the FY books close (31/12/2016) is also an interesting tidbit.


They have played their game smart enough to hoodwink ignorant shareholders.
When somebody hears 'world bank',feels like Jesus coming to your house physically to dine with u.
This is massive dillution,and sooner or later there will be price correction.
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obiero
#1024 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 7:17:28 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
alotoftalk wrote:
My initial thought was Munga flipping his "Rawat" shares to IFC. But if these are newly created shares being subscribed for (j.mp/2i4HTa0) then my guess is that they ran into capital adequacy issues after resetting their FY reserves based on gross premium valuation methodology (which they adopted in the current year) plus mark-to-market of their portfolio and impairment of some of KES 3.2 Bn in deposits held with financial institutions a proportion of which must be at either Chase or Imperial.

The dilution by IFC therefore became a necessary evil.

The subscription date of 30/12/2016, a day just before the FY books close (31/12/2016) is also an interesting tidbit.


They have played their game smart enough to hoodwink ignorant shareholders.
When somebody hears 'world bank',feels like Jesus coming to your house physically to dine with u.
This is massive dillution,and sooner or later there will be price correction.

The firm is doing quite badly.. And getting out now will be difficult since float is concentrated around a few.. Massive supply expected today

KQ ABP 4.26
actuarywahisa
#1025 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 8:55:04 AM
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alotoftalk wrote:
My initial thought was Munga flipping his "Rawat" shares to IFC. But if these are newly created shares being subscribed for (j.mp/2i4HTa0) then my guess is that they ran into capital adequacy issues after resetting their FY reserves based on gross premium valuation methodology (which they adopted in the current year) plus mark-to-market of their portfolio and impairment of some of KES 3.2 Bn in deposits held with financial institutions a proportion of which must be at either Chase or Imperial.

The dilution by IFC therefore became a necessary evil.

The subscription date of 30/12/2016, a day just before the FY books close (31/12/2016) is also an interesting tidbit.


That subscription date shouts compliance
more than anything. Thank you for pointing that out.

More cash, just like a takeover over of another business, is not a good or a bad thing. What one does with the money or the acquired business is what counts. Profits and not hope.
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
Ericsson
#1026 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:15:12 AM
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This just shows that half year results were cooked and sugar coated.
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Ericsson
#1027 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:23:12 AM
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BRITAM=UAP
Wealth is built through a relatively simple equation
Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
mlennyma
#1028 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:24:38 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
This just shows that half year results were cooked and sugar coated.

I will make my money and exit before munga exits,yesterday I was over 15% to the good
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obiero
#1029 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:36:25 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
This just shows that half year results were cooked and sugar coated.

I will make my money and exit before munga exits,yesterday I was over 15% to the good

All the best @mlennyma the future belongs to the bold

KQ ABP 4.26
Kausha
#1030 Posted : Wednesday, January 04, 2017 9:56:41 AM
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obiero wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
This just shows that half year results were cooked and sugar coated.

I will make my money and exit before munga exits,yesterday I was over 15% to the good

All the best @mlennyma the future belongs to the bold


This is dilute on number of shares basis but they are paying a signficant premium to the market suggesting the company is substantially undervalued at current market prices.

Brit remains an attractive target for global multinational insurance firms looking at market share in this region.

Ignore at your own peril but it will be one of the better performing stocks by half year. Take that to the bank.
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