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cnn
#1011 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 8:51:02 AM
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qw25041985 wrote:
This stock was/is rallyin because of international ol prices were starting to go up. Or what did you think the reason was ?Brilliant full year results come Dec ? No. today (27.10.2010) the dollar rallied and so oil prices retraced abit (there's that important correlation between dollar and oil prices),
thats why today it -kk- didnt move as much today.
And for those w/o eyes [ No pun intended ] we are in a general market correction.and some stocks like c0-0p ,Dtk need to take a breather so hold on to ur pants/skirt e.t.c tight
last but not least hiiiiiiiiiiii ,Madam guru. Holla

And when we were held @ 10 for what seemed an eternity,were oil prices not rising? From the lower 70s?
ProverB
#1012 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:14:43 AM
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cnn wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
This stock was/is rallyin because of international ol prices were starting to go up. Or what did you think the reason was ?Brilliant full year results come Dec ? No. today (27.10.2010) the dollar rallied and so oil prices retraced abit (there's that important correlation between dollar and oil prices),
thats why today it -kk- didnt move as much today.
And for those w/o eyes [ No pun intended ] we are in a general market correction.and some stocks like c0-0p ,Dtk need to take a breather so hold on to ur pants/skirt e.t.c tight
last but not least hiiiiiiiiiiii ,Madam guru. Holla

And when we were held @ 10 for what seemed an eternity,were oil prices not rising? From the lower 70s?



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the deal
#1013 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:42:46 PM
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we are no more going to coast....LOL..
guru267
#1014 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:52:30 PM
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the deal wrote:
we are no more going to coast....LOL..


@the deal.. there are plenty of profit takers yet to be eliminated and that's partly because there hasn't been any material info on KK but I'm bullish on oil in the years of recovery to come and bearish on the dollar which means i have a responsibility to be bullish on KK....

i'm now hoping kakuzi or KCB can give me a good xmas Pray
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
PKoli
#1015 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 12:57:42 PM
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the deal wrote:
we are no more going to coast....LOL..


Take KQ
Gordon Gekko
#1016 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 1:09:30 PM
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@the deal, Coast is still on, though now not by KQ, but Modern Coast....
mwenza
#1017 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:47:51 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
@the deal, Coast is still on, though now not by KQ, but Modern Coast....



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VituVingiSana
#1018 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 2:56:11 PM
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KK benefits when oil prices drop [exceptions do apply] coz lower fuel prices means better margins [coz easier to pass on]

If it costs KK 50, they can sell at 60 [20% markup]
If it costs KK 80, they can sell at 90 [12.5% markup]

Once the selling price touches 100, there is severe resistance. I recall being in a high-rise at 5pm on a Friday overlooking Koinange St when petrol was at 107/-... there were very few cars out there... Folks were taking public transport OR not coming to the CBD...
[Or mwakwere was suspended]

Consumers don't as much about what margins are made by OMCs or taxes as much as the PRICE they pay... So petrol at 50/- with 50% taxes is more acceptable than 80/- with 20% taxes...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#1019 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:08:21 PM
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@VVS KK is able to benefit from rising oil prices because it will be able to sell stock it bought at a much lower price at a much higher price hence gaining much higher mark up than when the price falls....

Currently KK is still holding stocks of oil in inventory that it bought for $69 and now oil is almost $85

Thats why KK's stock price rises when oil rises and fell to its all time low in 2009 the same time oil was trading at its all time low of $30

This play is all about inventory held and bought in the past because with oil marketers oil bought today is always for much future use and not for use today....
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
VituVingiSana
#1020 Posted : Thursday, October 28, 2010 3:16:12 PM
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@guru - You are stating the obvious. Read my post.

1) It can work either way. You can be left with 'expensive' stock. See Triton's gamble or even KK when it had pricey stocks.
2) I disagree that KK has $69 stock. Unless you have inside info, I believe you are mistaken for a number of reasons.
3) LOL... In 2009, everything was down! KQ was 20/-, KPLC was 100/-, Equity was 13, SCBK was 120, Williamson was 50, etc... Saying that KK was at its lowest point coz oil was at $30 [btw, that was for a very, very short period] is spurious correlation
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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