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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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obiero wrote:AndyC wrote:maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:AndyC wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Impunity wrote:ibsi wrote:Impunity wrote:@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short? Is it to lock out some souls? And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.
I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site. I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days. This opus dei is so secretive. Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??). They might know who has the money! WSR.... π€£π€£π€£ Any percentage point counts even if its 0.05.... I never was a fan of the governor when he was appointed but the guy has brought in some order hapo CBK... Ndiyo hiyo link.... ππΎππΎ https://www.centralbank....s-bonds/treasury-bonds/
If am not wrong this is our first 50B auction... π€π€ The best thing here is that ifbs are tax free! Even for ordinary bonds really depends on the YTM... Some are probably equal in return to any IFB... How many things can a Kenyan count as 'tax free'? Just saying the words elevates the mood. @ Maka how is order here beneficial to investor? Were we not better off doing 22% T-bills with the Prof? ......nostalgic sigh. Professor made many woke people including himself very wealthy. Unlike opus dei who is motivated by a higher calling Very rogue character that one... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/1/2011 Posts: 396
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maka wrote:obiero wrote:AndyC wrote:maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:AndyC wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Impunity wrote:ibsi wrote:Impunity wrote:@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short? Is it to lock out some souls? And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.
I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site. I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days. This opus dei is so secretive. Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??). They might know who has the money! WSR.... π€£π€£π€£ Any percentage point counts even if its 0.05.... I never was a fan of the governor when he was appointed but the guy has brought in some order hapo CBK... Ndiyo hiyo link.... ππΎππΎ https://www.centralbank....s-bonds/treasury-bonds/
If am not wrong this is our first 50B auction... π€π€ The best thing here is that ifbs are tax free! Even for ordinary bonds really depends on the YTM... Some are probably equal in return to any IFB... How many things can a Kenyan count as 'tax free'? Just saying the words elevates the mood. @ Maka how is order here beneficial to investor? Were we not better off doing 22% T-bills with the Prof? ......nostalgic sigh. Professor made many woke people including himself very wealthy. Unlike opus dei who is motivated by a higher calling Very rogue character that one... Wouldn't touch it....IMHO rates are likely to skyrocket soon.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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@jmada... Opus Dei guy is one hard nut to crack... Werent we doing a Eurobond? That will ease the pressure from domestic borrowing... 50 mins to go.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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jmbada wrote:maka wrote:obiero wrote:AndyC wrote:maka wrote:Ebenyo wrote:maka wrote:AndyC wrote:Angelica _ann wrote:Impunity wrote:ibsi wrote:Impunity wrote:@Maka,Naona kwa gazeti wametangaza kitu for 20 years.But why,pray,only set the sale period that short? Is it to lock out some souls? And interest rate,why not just make it 12%...hizi 11.950 is unnecessary catwalking.
I have also noticed it. But it seems they don't want to publicise it much. They even haven't pulled out the October reopened bond from their site. I think this too they will reopen later ...they can't get 50B within 2 days. This opus dei is so secretive. Probably Opus Dei wants to test the bidding amounts & (rate??). They might know who has the money! WSR.... π€£π€£π€£ Any percentage point counts even if its 0.05.... I never was a fan of the governor when he was appointed but the guy has brought in some order hapo CBK... Ndiyo hiyo link.... ππΎππΎ https://www.centralbank....s-bonds/treasury-bonds/
If am not wrong this is our first 50B auction... π€π€ The best thing here is that ifbs are tax free! Even for ordinary bonds really depends on the YTM... Some are probably equal in return to any IFB... How many things can a Kenyan count as 'tax free'? Just saying the words elevates the mood. @ Maka how is order here beneficial to investor? Were we not better off doing 22% T-bills with the Prof? ......nostalgic sigh. Professor made many woke people including himself very wealthy. Unlike opus dei who is motivated by a higher calling Very rogue character that one... Wouldn't touch it....IMHO rates are likely to skyrocket soon. What makes you think rates will skyrocket soon?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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maka wrote:@jmada... Opus Dei guy is one hard nut to crack... Werent we doing a Eurobond? That will ease the pressure from domestic borrowing...
50 mins to go.... On that Eurobond note,the rate may flatten...may not go further up . Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Impunity wrote:maka wrote:@jmada... Opus Dei guy is one hard nut to crack... Werent we doing a Eurobond? That will ease the pressure from domestic borrowing...
50 mins to go.... On that Eurobond note,the rate may flatten...may not go further up .  Alas.... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/7/2010 Posts: 38 Location: Nairobi
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maka wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:@jmada... Opus Dei guy is one hard nut to crack... Werent we doing a Eurobond? That will ease the pressure from domestic borrowing...
50 mins to go.... On that Eurobond note,the rate may flatten...may not go further up .  Alas.... Trust in God and endure patiently.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/7/2012 Posts: 11,935
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maka wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:@jmada... Opus Dei guy is one hard nut to crack... Werent we doing a Eurobond? That will ease the pressure from domestic borrowing...
50 mins to go.... On that Eurobond note,the rate may flatten...may not go further up .  Alas.... Here tulichezewa, prearranged kabisa. Processed in one day!!!!! In the business world, everyone is paid in two coins - cash and experience. Take the experience first; the cash will come later - H Geneen
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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Angelica _ann wrote:maka wrote:Impunity wrote:maka wrote:@jmada... Opus Dei guy is one hard nut to crack... Werent we doing a Eurobond? That will ease the pressure from domestic borrowing...
50 mins to go.... On that Eurobond note,the rate may flatten...may not go further up .  Alas.... Here tulichezewa, prearranged kabisa. Processed in one day!!!!! Kabisa been following this market for a while... Hii hapana.... π 2 days... Brokers dint have time to give an indication where guys should bid... possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/14/2006 Posts: 1,311
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maka wrote: Alas.... Tap sale pap
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