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KPLC - Great results 2010
the deal
#91 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 10:20:19 AM
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A 1:1 conversion and nobody will ever smile here...Pray...
guru267
#92 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 11:00:19 AM
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the deal wrote:
A 1:1 conversion and nobody will ever smile here...Pray...

@the deal please research on what a 1:1 conversion is... It only means parity with existing shares...

What you should worry about is the price at which the shares are converted..
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
mwanahisa
#93 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 11:42:02 AM
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@g267. KPLC H1 2010 PAT stood at Kshs 1.873 B. Doubling that comes to Kshs 3.746 B. The increase in H1 2010 profits was 27.85%. The increase in 2009 Full Year results was a MASSIVE 82.72 %. You can see why the increase was attributed to tariff increases.

However as stated above, I expect H2 2010 results to come in better than the first Half, but certainly not anywhere near last year's increase.
VituVingiSana
#94 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 11:50:49 AM
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mwanahisa wrote:
@g267. KPLC H1 2010 PAT stood at Kshs 1.873 B. Doubling that comes to Kshs 3.746 B. The increase in H1 2010 profits was 27.85%. The increase in 2009 Full Year results was a MASSIVE 82.72 %. You can see why the increase was attributed to tariff increases.

However as stated above, I expect H2 2010 results to come in better than the first Half, but certainly not anywhere near last year's increase.
Well... electricity demand is almost inelastic... Supply is where the problem comes in...

I expect a decent (better than 2009) Full Year... What is critical is the supply in 2011.. I read the Met thinks there may be a drought which is NOT good news!

On the other hand we know KPLC is willing to use IPPs + Mumias is expanding capacity + additional Geothermal may come online by mid-2011...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
mwanahisa
#95 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 12:10:13 PM
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@ The Deal. You appear to have chosen to ignore the many posts on the topic of conversion, so let me weigh in as well.

KPLC has Kshs 15,899,000,000 worth of preference shares in its books (ignoring the other older preference shares). 87% of these shares = Kshs 13,882,130,000. It is this value in Kshs that is to be converted into ordinary shares. The practice has been to use the weighted average market price for say the 6 months period before the application to the CMA for the conversion or publication of the intention to convert. Pundits can correct me on this.

I believe the price for the last 6 months has been ranging from 170 - 210. At Kshs 170, which, is the lower end of the range the new shares would be 81,365,470. If however, the conversion ratio was set at Kshs 190 the government would only get 72,800,684 additional ordinary shares meaning conversion would actually be lower than 1:1.

A 1:1 conversion ratio would certainly not be any cause for alarm as the shares would only just double. Mind you, many of us believe that KPLC should first revalue all their assets before conversion since their assets are currently undervalued which could result in a more equitable conversion ratio perhaps to the extent of govt getting less than 50% of current ordinary shares. This scenario is however unlikely as Govt calls the shots at KPLC.

Even if we extend the argument and include the proposed rights issue shares (touted at Kshs 10 billion in various quarters), it is clear that the current KPLC share price appears to have discounted all that. True, in the short run, the price may fall, but for many of us, that would only provide us the opportunity to get MORE of a value share at GREAT price.
VituVingiSana
#96 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 12:50:41 PM
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@mwanahisa - If the GoK sets the conversion ratio based on 190/- per share... We should sue!!! I think it should be closer to 400/-...

IMHO, we are better off having Preference Shares then converting at less than 300/-...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
guru267
#97 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 1:21:32 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
@mwanahisa - If the GoK sets the conversion ratio based on 190/- per share... We should sue!!! I think it should be closer to 400/-...

IMHO, we are better off having Preference Shares then converting at less than 300/-...

@vvs how can they convert at 300 if it hasnt traded at that price
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
Kaffir
#98 Posted : Tuesday, September 07, 2010 4:36:13 PM
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Looks the share is slowly waking up..
raszag
#99 Posted : Tuesday, September 07, 2010 5:24:55 PM
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Yap...should close @ 210
Hardwork, Smartness & Humility = Successful and Happy life...Jipange sasa hivi
guru267
#100 Posted : Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:30:23 PM
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raszag wrote:
Yap...should close @ 210

Plus its being backed up by sweet volumes... The Results might be leaking out... Laughing out loudly
Mark 12:29
Deuteronomy 4:16
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