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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Swenani wrote:@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?
@maveggies explanation makes sense.
The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home. For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught. Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else. For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people. This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member."There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Swenani wrote:@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?
@maveggies explanation makes sense.
The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K Online payment vouchers linked to banks is another possibility
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Quote:Swenani wrote:@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?
@maveggies explanation makes sense.
The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K Quote:You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home. For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught. Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else. For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people. This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member. Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose! Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders. Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax. How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing. Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies. Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers! Isuni yilu yi maa me muyo - ni Mbisuu
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Ngalaka wrote:Quote:Swenani wrote:@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?
@maveggies explanation makes sense.
The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K Quote:You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home. For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught. Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else. For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people. This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member. Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose! Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders. Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax. How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing. Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies. Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers! Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this. Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote: Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this. Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks
yeah so that someone can connect from outside and monkey with the data! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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murchr wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Quote:Swenani wrote:@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?
@maveggies explanation makes sense.
The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K Quote:You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home. For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught. Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else. For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people. This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member. Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose! Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders. Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax. How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing. Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies. Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers! Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this. Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks How do you know this?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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Hobitke wrote:murchr wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Quote:Swenani wrote:@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?
@maveggies explanation makes sense.
The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K Quote:You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home. For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught. Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else. For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people. This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member. Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose! Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders. Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax. How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing. Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies. Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers! Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this. Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks How do you know this? it was in reports all over the place All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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masukuma wrote:Hobitke wrote:murchr wrote:Ngalaka wrote:Quote:Swenani wrote:@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?
@maveggies explanation makes sense.
The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K Quote:You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home. For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught. Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else. For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people. This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member. Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose! Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders. Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax. How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing. Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies. Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers! Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this. Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks How do you know this? it was in reports all over the place If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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This country of ours. Mungu atuhurumie. http://www.nation.co.ke/...87962-of8hkn/index.html
Turns out the alleged "Russian" accomplice in the supposed hacking syndicate is an innocent American couple who had been in contact with ogolla. Cops have released them for lack of evidence. Who wants to bet the cases will collapse one by one.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:This country of ours. Mungu atuhurumie. http://www.nation.co.ke/...87962-of8hkn/index.html
Turns out the alleged "Russian" accomplice in the supposed hacking syndicate is an innocent American couple who had been in contact with ogolla. Cops have released them for lack of evidence. Who wants to bet the cases will collapse one by one. Zimeisha hizi... possunt quia posse videntur
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