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murchr
#91 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 4:03:17 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.
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#92 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 5:08:11 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 3/18/2011
Posts: 12,069
Location: Kianjokoma
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K

Online payment vouchers linked to banks is another possibility
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Ngalaka
#93 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 5:53:32 PM
Rank: Veteran

Joined: 10/29/2008
Posts: 1,566
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!

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murchr
#94 Posted : Sunday, March 26, 2017 6:14:49 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
Ngalaka wrote:
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!



Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks

"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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masukuma
#95 Posted : Monday, March 27, 2017 4:02:03 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:

Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks

yeah so that someone can connect from outside and monkey with the data!
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Hobitke
#96 Posted : Monday, March 27, 2017 6:13:39 PM
Rank: New-farer

Joined: 5/22/2016
Posts: 69
Location: Nairobi
murchr wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!



Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks

How do you know this?


masukuma
#97 Posted : Monday, March 27, 2017 11:16:58 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 10/4/2006
Posts: 13,823
Location: Nairobi
Hobitke wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!



Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks




How do you know this?

it was in reports all over the place
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Swenani
#98 Posted : Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:33:30 AM
Rank: User

Joined: 8/15/2013
Posts: 13,237
Location: Vacuum
masukuma wrote:
Hobitke wrote:
murchr wrote:
Ngalaka wrote:
Quote:
Swenani wrote:
@kipchirchir,are you trying to say that when someone hacks into my quickbooks and manipulates the bank or petty cash account entries the money in my bank and safe box will disappear?

@maveggies explanation makes sense.

The only other possible way for KRA to lose money through their system won't even involve hacking but manipulation of the system by KRA staff e.g they receive 100K from sonko in cash but then they manipulate the system to indicate cash received is 30K


Quote:
You are slow. Manipulation of books was happening in both books. If it was only happening at the bank it would just have been a bank fraud a few bank employees like you would go home.

For this to succeed for this long without raising eyebrows..entries would have to match at KRA and at National bank systematically. If it werent for greed they would never have been caught.

Those who have been following news, you remember there were several lifestyle audits carried out. Good thing is once you catch one thief you unearth everything else.

For the doubters, wait for 2020 when the case begins then you'll know more. If the US govt doesnt ask for the deportation of their people.

This is not the first time this is happening at KRA, the bank in question in a previous case was member.

Plus ca change plus cest la meme chose!

Sounds like a tripartite syndicate of staffers at KRA, Banks and traders.

Isn’t this a plain case of employees at KRA colluding with those at their bankers to help traders to evade tax.

How this requires the services of a hacker is unclear - narrative changing.

Indeed when/if the matter is successfully litigated we will ALL get to know the inner intricacies.

Obviously what has been offered here as a case of hacking of KRA systems and stealing DIRECTLY from the taxman system electronically cannot pass the scrutiny test, unless of course we are to ‘accept it by faith’ and hope to be vindicated at a later date – any takers!



Where a malware is used a hacker is involved. Now answer this.
Why would there be a private server at port 11 at KRA? 25 Marks




How do you know this?

it was in reports all over the place


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FRM2011
#99 Posted : Thursday, April 13, 2017 4:48:51 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459

This country of ours. Mungu atuhurumie.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...87962-of8hkn/index.html

Turns out the alleged "Russian" accomplice in the supposed hacking syndicate is an innocent American couple who had been in contact with ogolla. Cops have released them for lack of evidence.

Who wants to bet the cases will collapse one by one.
maka
#100 Posted : Thursday, April 13, 2017 5:47:16 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 4/22/2010
Posts: 11,522
Location: Nairobi
FRM2011 wrote:

This country of ours. Mungu atuhurumie.

http://www.nation.co.ke/...87962-of8hkn/index.html

Turns out the alleged "Russian" accomplice in the supposed hacking syndicate is an innocent American couple who had been in contact with ogolla. Cops have released them for lack of evidence.

Who wants to bet the cases will collapse one by one.


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