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Rank: Hello Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 6 Location: Nairobi
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Could it all simply be that Kenyans are just that gullible?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Jus Blazin wrote:washiku wrote:I am no fan nor a follower of the famous pastors, but I really doubt she said these words as they are being put. Even if she said them, it must have been in a certain context. That is the bigger picture lacking in her bashing. Read... 'I am no fan or follower of the famous land grabbers, but I really doubt the Weston guys did these things as it's being put. Even if they did the grabbing, it must have been in a certain context - utilizing and developing idle land, promoting tourism, employment, etc . That is the bigger picture lacking in their bashing.' Now @washiku, read your words again. @JB  The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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ZZE123 wrote:Jus Blazin wrote:washiku wrote:I am no fan nor a follower of the famous pastors, but I really doubt she said these words as they are being put. Even if she said them, it must have been in a certain context. That is the bigger picture lacking in her bashing. Read... 'I am no fan or follower of the famous land grabbers, but I really doubt the Weston guys did these things as it's being put. Even if they did the grabbing, it must have been in a certain context - utilizing and developing idle land, promoting tourism, employment, etc . That is the bigger picture lacking in their bashing.' Now @washiku, read your words again. @JB Naona mumeamkia @washiku nyinyi wote. Washiku, I think i understand where you are coming from ,and am with you 100%. Let me put in the context in which "mum" might have uttered the words that have caused a storm. I pay my house gal 7k, which means if she is a true and devoted christian, she should tithe 700 Bob(10%). Divided by 4 Sundays in a month comes to roughly 150 bob. Now these guys tithing coins, exactly what do they do in Nairobi, and why on earth are they worshipping in an upmarket church. Even at good old Pcea and aipca (ka ngimano), no one tithes in coins anymore. And no, you don't demand accountability in church, that's not your call. You leave that between the pastor and God. Disclaimer : I don't usually tithe, but direct my donations to charity instead.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 9/28/2011 Posts: 86
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/21/2012 Posts: 1,739
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Impunity wrote:washiku wrote:I am no fan nor a follower of the famous pastors, but I really doubt she said these words as they are being put. Even if she said them, it must have been in a certain context. That is the bigger picture lacking in her bashing. You are always playing a good boy, endelea hivyo siku moja utaona.  The man from Laikipia is fearful of offending people, thus sits on the fence ever. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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FRM2011 wrote:ZZE123 wrote:Jus Blazin wrote:washiku wrote:I am no fan nor a follower of the famous pastors, but I really doubt she said these words as they are being put. Even if she said them, it must have been in a certain context. That is the bigger picture lacking in her bashing. Read... 'I am no fan or follower of the famous land grabbers, but I really doubt the Weston guys did these things as it's being put. Even if they did the grabbing, it must have been in a certain context - utilizing and developing idle land, promoting tourism, employment, etc . That is the bigger picture lacking in their bashing.' Now @washiku, read your words again. @JB Naona mumeamkia @washiku nyinyi wote. Washiku, I think i understand where you are coming from ,and am with you 100%. Let me put in the context in which "mum" might have uttered the words that have caused a storm. I pay my house gal 7k, which means if she is a true and devoted christian, she should tithe 700 Bob(10%). Divided by 4 Sundays in a month comes to roughly 150 bob. Now these guys tithing coins, exactly what do they do in Nairobi, and why on earth are they worshipping in an upmarket church. Even at good old Pcea and aipca (ka ngimano), no one tithes in coins anymore. And no, you don't demand accountability in church, that's not your call. You leave that between the pastor and God. Disclaimer : I don't usually tithe, but direct my donations to charity instead. But you have 'rights' to talk about it, right?
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Rank: Hello Joined: 1/15/2015 Posts: 6 Location: Nairobi
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You are quite observant I see and you are also right. I hope you won't consider my second post to have been a waste of time.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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Some congregants have to be caned thoroughly to make a better life of themselves, unajua kuna watu mang'aa lazima achochwe kabisa ndivo ajaribu.
ask the teachers out there how some kids are just plain annoying, you know they have the potential lakini hawajaribu.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,331 Location: Masada
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Am wrote:Impunity wrote:washiku wrote:I am no fan nor a follower of the famous pastors, but I really doubt she said these words as they are being put. Even if she said them, it must have been in a certain context. That is the bigger picture lacking in her bashing. You are always playing a good boy, endelea hivyo siku moja utaona. The man from Laikipia is fearful of offending people, thus sits on the fence ever. Very weak character for a man if you ask me! Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Mike Sonko: Quote:Watu wangu naskia mumefukuzwa Church zenu due to poverty don't worry tuko pamoja.Many Christian believers who invest years in their lives in what they do will one day stand before the Lord and realize they were building the house,not the Lord but sinking sand. Before we act,we must ask why?Why are we doing what we are doing?Has God called us to this task?Or is the real motive purely financial or otherwise or control. ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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