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The meaning of circumcision
Wakanyugi
#91 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 12:49:34 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I have just finished revising CRE with my son and one thing I learnt is that Abraham was circumcised when he was 99 years old. Bothers, It is never late!!!Take a step of faith and do what needs to be done!

If this is the message you got from reading that verse then I fear for your little boy.

Abraham was circumcised as an old man, long after he had become the chosen one of God, moved to the promised land, become a succesful leader of men, sired and raised Issac and Ishmael, the ancestors of two great peoples and the most influential religions known today. In short long after his work was already done.

Circumcision was a non event.

@Wakanyugi your lack of Bible knowledge is wanting! WHere did you get all that, guess work or what? Or you woke up from a dream Pray


Here you go:

"On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or bought with his money, every male in his household, and circumcised them, as God told him. 24 Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised, 25 and his son Ishmael was thirteen; 26 Abraham and his son Ishmael were both circumcised on that very day. 27 And every male in Abraham’s household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him."

Note, by this time God had had already chosen Abraham and promised to make him the father of a great race. On God's instructions, he had left Ur, for Canaan through Haran. He was the leader of a big band and owned a lot of wealth.

My point: Circumcision was therefore not a requirement to become the chosen one. It was a simply a mark of covenant - similar to signing a written contract as a sign that you and I have entered into a business relationship.

OK, I admit Isaac was not born when his father was Circumcised... but I think my point is made.
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Um Sayala
#92 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 1:05:59 PM
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I have a proposal. We circumcise every Thing in our homes. Male Cats, Male Dogs, Bulls, Male Pigs, Cocks, Everything Male. Then we move to Male Snakes. For only then will they be brighter, more responsible and considerate not only to each other, but also to the humanfolk.
And before I forget, lets circumcise our girls (and not call it FGM coz only then will they be brighter). Anybody seconding?
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Atalaku
#93 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 1:41:17 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I have just finished revising CRE with my son and one thing I learnt is that Abraham was circumcised when he was 99 years old. Bothers, It is never late!!!Take a step of faith and do what needs to be done!

If this is the message you got from reading that verse then I fear for your little boy.

Abraham was circumcised as an old man, long after he had become the chosen one of God, moved to the promised land, become a succesful leader of men, sired and raised Issac and Ishmael, the ancestors of two great peoples and the most influential religions known today. In short long after his work was already done.

Circumcision was a non event.

@Wakanyugi your lack of Bible knowledge is wanting! WHere did you get all that, guess work or what? Or you woke up from a dream Pray


Here you go:

"On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or bought with his money, every male in his household, and circumcised them, as God told him. 24 Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised, 25 and his son Ishmael was thirteen; 26 Abraham and his son Ishmael were both circumcised on that very day. 27 And every male in Abraham’s household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him."

Note, by this time God had had already chosen Abraham and promised to make him the father of a great race. On God's instructions, he had left Ur, for Canaan through Haran. He was the leader of a big band and owned a lot of wealth.

My point: Circumcision was therefore not a requirement to become the chosen one. It was a simply a mark of covenant - similar to signing a written contract as a sign that you and I have entered into a business relationship.

OK, I admit Isaac was not born when his father was Circumcised... but I think my point is made.

...@wakayungi...it was just a simple question. ..how old was Abraham when he was circumcised? As simple as that! The reason you are thinking the way you do is because besides carrying your foreskin your brain is also not circumcised...you think like a child...ni hayo tu...
Am
#94 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 1:56:42 PM
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Atalaku wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I have just finished revising CRE with my son and one thing I learnt is that Abraham was circumcised when he was 99 years old. Bothers, It is never late!!!Take a step of faith and do what needs to be done!

If this is the message you got from reading that verse then I fear for your little boy.

Abraham was circumcised as an old man, long after he had become the chosen one of God, moved to the promised land, become a succesful leader of men, sired and raised Issac and Ishmael, the ancestors of two great peoples and the most influential religions known today. In short long after his work was already done.

Circumcision was a non event.

@Wakanyugi your lack of Bible knowledge is wanting! WHere did you get all that, guess work or what? Or you woke up from a dream Pray


Here you go:

"On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or bought with his money, every male in his household, and circumcised them, as God told him. 24 Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised, 25 and his son Ishmael was thirteen; 26 Abraham and his son Ishmael were both circumcised on that very day. 27 And every male in Abraham’s household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him."

Note, by this time God had had already chosen Abraham and promised to make him the father of a great race. On God's instructions, he had left Ur, for Canaan through Haran. He was the leader of a big band and owned a lot of wealth.

My point: Circumcision was therefore not a requirement to become the chosen one. It was a simply a mark of covenant - similar to signing a written contract as a sign that you and I have entered into a business relationship.

OK, I admit Isaac was not born when his father was Circumcised... but I think my point is made.

...@wakayungi...it was just a simple question. ..how old was Abraham when he was circumcised? As simple as that! The reason you are thinking the way you do is because besides carrying your foreskin your brain is also not circumcised...you think like a child...ni hayo tu...


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Impunity
#95 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 2:04:25 PM
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Posts: 26,331
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Atalaku wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I have just finished revising CRE with my son and one thing I learnt is that Abraham was circumcised when he was 99 years old. Bothers, It is never late!!!Take a step of faith and do what needs to be done!

If this is the message you got from reading that verse then I fear for your little boy.

Abraham was circumcised as an old man, long after he had become the chosen one of God, moved to the promised land, become a succesful leader of men, sired and raised Issac and Ishmael, the ancestors of two great peoples and the most influential religions known today. In short long after his work was already done.

Circumcision was a non event.

@Wakanyugi your lack of Bible knowledge is wanting! WHere did you get all that, guess work or what? Or you woke up from a dream Pray


Here you go:

"On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or bought with his money, every male in his household, and circumcised them, as God told him. 24 Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised, 25 and his son Ishmael was thirteen; 26 Abraham and his son Ishmael were both circumcised on that very day. 27 And every male in Abraham’s household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him."

Note, by this time God had had already chosen Abraham and promised to make him the father of a great race. On God's instructions, he had left Ur, for Canaan through Haran. He was the leader of a big band and owned a lot of wealth.

My point: Circumcision was therefore not a requirement to become the chosen one. It was a simply a mark of covenant - similar to signing a written contract as a sign that you and I have entered into a business relationship.

OK, I admit Isaac was not born when his father was Circumcised... but I think my point is made.

...@wakayungi...it was just a simple question. ..how old was Abraham when he was circumcised? As simple as that! The reason you are thinking the way you do is because besides carrying your foreskin your brain is also not circumcised...you think like a child...ni hayo tu...


Very depressing words to come from a pedophile whose dick-head was accidentally chopped during a botched circumcision process!!!!!!!

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washiku
#96 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 2:13:26 PM
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Mtu Biz
#97 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 2:25:55 PM
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AlphDoti
#98 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 2:48:11 PM
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Joined: 6/20/2008
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Location: Kenya
Wakanyugi wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
Atalaku wrote:
I have just finished revising CRE with my son and one thing I learnt is that Abraham was circumcised when he was 99 years old. Bothers, It is never late!!!Take a step of faith and do what needs to be done!

If this is the message you got from reading that verse then I fear for your little boy.

Abraham was circumcised as an old man, long after he had become the chosen one of God, moved to the promised land, become a succesful leader of men, sired and raised Issac and Ishmael, the ancestors of two great peoples and the most influential religions known today. In short long after his work was already done.

Circumcision was a non event.

@Wakanyugi your lack of Bible knowledge is wanting! WHere did you get all that, guess work or what? Or you woke up from a dream Pray

Here you go:

"On that very day Abraham took his son Ishmael and all those born in his household or bought with his money, every male in his household, and circumcised them, as God told him. 24 Abraham was ninety-nine years old when he was circumcised, 25 and his son Ishmael was thirteen; 26 Abraham and his son Ishmael were both circumcised on that very day. 27 And every male in Abraham’s household, including those born in his household or bought from a foreigner, was circumcised with him."

Note, by this time God had had already chosen Abraham and promised to make him the father of a great race. On God's instructions, he had left Ur, for Canaan through Haran. He was the leader of a big band and owned a lot of wealth.

My point: Circumcision was therefore not a requirement to become the chosen one. It was a simply a mark of covenant - similar to signing a written contract as a sign that you and I have entered into a business relationship.

OK, I admit Isaac was not born when his father was Circumcised... but I think my point is made.

@Wakanyugi, thank you for admitting that you had lied at first that "Abraham was circumcised long after he had ...sired and raised Issac and Ishmael". That one is closed.

So now tell us what God said about the covenant. Was it "everlasting" or not. And if everlasting, when did it stop and who stopped?
AlphDoti
#99 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 2:51:40 PM
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Location: Kenya
Um Sayala wrote:
I have a proposal. We circumcise every Thing in our homes. Male Cats, Male Dogs, Bulls, Male Pigs, Cocks, Everything Male. Then we move to Male Snakes. For only then will they be brighter, more responsible and considerate not only to each other, but also to the humanfolk.
And before I forget, lets circumcise our girls (and not call it FGM coz only then will they be brighter). Anybody seconding?

@Um, who says that? Why would you want to circumcise a snake? What we are asking is for people to get circumcised, the benefits are more than the pain. The ladies have said so too! Unless you tell us what you're doing with that foreskin, or you are afraid, then we will understand.
Am
#100 Posted : Friday, October 31, 2014 3:01:22 PM
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Joined: 2/21/2012
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AlphDoti wrote:
Um Sayala wrote:
I have a proposal. We circumcise every Thing in our homes. Male Cats, Male Dogs, Bulls, Male Pigs, Cocks, Everything Male. Then we move to Male Snakes. For only then will they be brighter, more responsible and considerate not only to each other, but also to the humanfolk.
And before I forget, lets circumcise our girls (and not call it FGM coz only then will they be brighter). Anybody seconding?

@Um, who says that? Why would you want to circumcise a snake? What we are asking is for people to get circumcised, the benefits are more than the pain. The ladies have said so too! Unless you tell us what you're doing with that foreskin, or you are afraid, then we will understand.


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Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God..
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