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Nandwa wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:I said something last time that you never quite got... even after broadly accepting your embryology story ... masukuma wrote:My question is do MANY FACTS "carry" questionable stories? are FACTS democratic? When you have 99% FACTS do they mean that the 1% questionable occurrences get validated by the 99% FACTS? And that is why I asked what your take on this little tale is Quote:Yesterday, I was watching the Matiba Funeral Service on TV and when I was glued on it - I saw my child jump on top of the sofa and fly around the room One should not say 'disapproved' while talking about a book with characters such as Adam, Eve,Noah and Moses e.t.c. There is nothing the Quran has stated that has been proved false. As proof for you, the Quran mentions many scientific facts, long before they were discovered by modern science. If 99% of scientific facts has been confirmed, it does not mean the 1% remaining are validated automatically, but it means they remained to be confirmed. But the 1% none of them has been proved false. But I said you will not prove anything in the Quran false, even your Adam, Eve, Noah and Moses etc. This confirms that it came form the creator of the universe. As for your seeing your son flying around the room, that is hallucination, or just an imagination. ces't possible... me add... maybe I made it up! I hope I have answered your question. You see, your mind can explore. It can even imagine right now your child on a trampoline... but actually in real is in class right now. All that is your imagination. All those are perfect answers!!  Debating a certain guy is a complete waste of time. Isorait! At least we get to see how the brain (or mind if you like) of a theist works. Religion has designed God to be beyond the verification process. It is a classic adaptation of religion to create an ever moving gulf so that science does not get anywhere near God. Only a tap dance known as faith can. First time in history we can save the human race by laying in front of the TV and doing nothing. Let's not screw it up
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Apricot wrote:Nandwa wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:I said something last time that you never quite got... even after broadly accepting your embryology story ... masukuma wrote:My question is do MANY FACTS "carry" questionable stories? are FACTS democratic? When you have 99% FACTS do they mean that the 1% questionable occurrences get validated by the 99% FACTS? And that is why I asked what your take on this little tale is Quote:Yesterday, I was watching the Matiba Funeral Service on TV and when I was glued on it - I saw my child jump on top of the sofa and fly around the room One should not say 'disapproved' while talking about a book with characters such as Adam, Eve,Noah and Moses e.t.c. There is nothing the Quran has stated that has been proved false. As proof for you, the Quran mentions many scientific facts, long before they were discovered by modern science. If 99% of scientific facts has been confirmed, it does not mean the 1% remaining are validated automatically, but it means they remained to be confirmed. But the 1% none of them has been proved false. But I said you will not prove anything in the Quran false, even your Adam, Eve, Noah and Moses etc. This confirms that it came form the creator of the universe. As for your seeing your son flying around the room, that is hallucination, or just an imagination. ces't possible... me add... maybe I made it up! I hope I have answered your question. You see, your mind can explore. It can even imagine right now your child on a trampoline... but actually in real is in class right now. All that is your imagination. All those are perfect answers!! Debating a certain guy is a complete waste of time. Isorait! At least we get to see how the brain (or mind if you like) of a theist works. Religion has designed God to be beyond the verification process. It is a classic adaptation of religion to create an ever moving gulf so that science does not get anywhere near God. Only a tap dance known as faith can. Is this how you guys respond when you run out of anything useful to say? Is abuse and mockery all you can afford to type?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:I said something last time that you never quite got... even after broadly accepting your embryology story ... masukuma wrote:My question is do MANY FACTS "carry" questionable stories? are FACTS democratic? When you have 99% FACTS do they mean that the 1% questionable occurrences get validated by the 99% FACTS? And that is why I asked what your take on this little tale is Quote:Yesterday, I was watching the Matiba Funeral Service on TV and when I was glued on it - I saw my child jump on top of the sofa and fly around the room One should not say 'disapproved' while talking about a book with characters such as Adam, Eve,Noah and Moses e.t.c. There is nothing the Quran has stated that has been proved false. As proof for you, the Quran mentions many scientific facts, long before they were discovered by modern science. If 99% of scientific facts has been confirmed, it does not mean the 1% remaining are validated automatically, but it means they remained to be confirmed. But the 1% none of them has been proved false. But I said you will not prove anything in the Quran false, even your Adam, Eve, Noah and Moses etc. This confirms that it came form the creator of the universe. As for your seeing your son flying around the room, that is hallucination, or just an imagination. ces't possible... me add... maybe I made it up! I hope I have answered your question. You see, your mind can explore. It can even imagine right now your child on a trampoline... but actually in real is in class right now. All that is your imagination All those are perfect answers!! From a perfect book! And yet, the Quran is unique in being the only Scripture that is free of scientific inaccuracies, whose historical authenticity can be verified, and whose text has been so carefully preserved that just one authorized version (in Arabic) exists. The Quran is also the only holy book that has been memorized in its entirety by people of all ages and intellectual abilities including non-Arabic speakers, which Muslims consider to be one of its miracles. So bro, I invite you to take a few minutes to learn something about the book. I'm happy when you ask me about my religion...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:AlphDoti wrote:masukuma wrote:I said something last time that you never quite got... even after broadly accepting your embryology story ... masukuma wrote:My question is do MANY FACTS "carry" questionable stories? are FACTS democratic? When you have 99% FACTS do they mean that the 1% questionable occurrences get validated by the 99% FACTS? And that is why I asked what your take on this little tale is Quote:Yesterday, I was watching the Matiba Funeral Service on TV and when I was glued on it - I saw my child jump on top of the sofa and fly around the room One should not say 'disapproved' while talking about a book with characters such as Adam, Eve,Noah and Moses e.t.c. There is nothing the Quran has stated that has been proved false. As proof for you, the Quran mentions many scientific facts, long before they were discovered by modern science. If 99% of scientific facts has been confirmed, it does not mean the 1% remaining are validated automatically, but it means they remained to be confirmed. But the 1% none of them has been proved false. But I said you will not prove anything in the Quran false, even your Adam, Eve, Noah and Moses etc. This confirms that it came form the creator of the universe. As for your seeing your son flying around the room, that is hallucination, or just an imagination. ces't possible... me add... maybe I made it up! I hope I have answered your question. You see, your mind can explore. It can even imagine right now your child on a trampoline... but actually in real is in class right now. All that is your imagination All those are perfect answers!! From a perfect book!
And yet, the Quran is unique in being the only Scripture that is free of scientific inaccuracies, whose historical authenticity can be verified, and whose text has been so carefully preserved that just one authorized version (in Arabic) exists. The Quran is also the only holy book that has been memorized in its entirety by people of all ages and intellectual abilities including non-Arabic speakers, which Muslims consider to be one of its miracles. So bro, I invite you to take a few minutes to learn something about the book. I'm happy when you ask me about my religion...  priceless All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/5/2010 Posts: 2,459
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This is nothing but uchokozi. If you were in high school in the 90s, you must have come across the devil-worshipping craze and the lies surrounding it. One of the books that put the fear of God in our young minds was Emmanuel Eni's delivered from the powers of darkness. Here is the pdf version of the book. Please read and laugh at the outrageous lies that almost got all of us saved. http://www.divinerevelat...e_powers_of_darkness.pdf
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/3/2007 Posts: 1,635
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FRM2011 wrote:This is nothing but uchokozi. If you were in high school in the 90s, you must have come across the devil-worshipping craze and the lies surrounding it. One of the books that put the fear of God in our young minds was Emmanuel Eni's delivered from the powers of darkness.
Here is the pdf version of the book. Please read and laugh at the outrageous lies that almost got all of us saved.
I remember the commission of Inquiry into Devil worship whose report was quietly buried when they realized how many of the Kenyan high and mighty were implicated - through membership in such so called cults as the Free Masons etc. "The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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@Wakanyugi, it's only that we of these times are blind and unfortunately, foolish, that we can't see God or the devil.
But wisdom, is a technique acquired through practice, and fortunately, she stands at the gates calling out...
'Devil worship', occurs when the human is oblivious of the unconscious, and trusts entirely on the power of his consciousness.
Holiness is harmony between the conscious and the unconscious.
When a human is observed, the antagony between the conscious and unconscious comes instinctively. In fact, the way humans are designed, this is a response that resonates with the body-mind during consciousness or more precisely, when a certain brainwave frequency is on.
It therefore takes technique for a human to be able to find harmony with the unconscious.
The practice of this technique is called 'religion' and 'worship'.
Now, what happens when a human is oblivious to the unconscious? The first among things is antipathy to others. The curse in Genesis is the effect.
Building of institutions around this curse of the beginning is devil worship.
Historically we may begin in the late bronze and into the iron age to trace the supremacy of devil worship on earth. The Ziggurats and the pyramids may in fact be monuments to devil worship.
BTW, the other day I was musing about who 666 might be. The name 'Hermes Tris Megistus' comes to mind. Hermeticism being a preserve for the few smacks of the anti- Christ...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,823 Location: Nairobi
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FRM2011 wrote:This is nothing but uchokozi. If you were in high school in the 90s, you must have come across the devil-worshipping craze and the lies surrounding it. One of the books that put the fear of God in our young minds was Emmanuel Eni's delivered from the powers of darkness. Here is the pdf version of the book. Please read and laugh at the outrageous lies that almost got all of us saved. http://www.divinerevelat..._powers_of_darkness.pdf
Eish that book... wah!!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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tycho wrote:@Wakanyugi, it's only that we of these times are blind and unfortunately, foolish, that we can't see God or the devil.
When a human is observed, the antagony between the conscious and unconscious comes instinctively. In fact, the way humans are designed, this is a response that resonates with the body-mind during consciousness or more precisely, when a certain brainwave frequency is on.
It therefore takes technique for a human to be able to find harmony with the unconscious.
BTW, the other day I was musing about who 666 might be. The name 'Hermes Tris Megistus' comes to mind. Hermeticism being a preserve for the few smacks of the anti- Christ... Who are you trying to lecture, yet you @tycho could not see the difference between man and God the creator of man. You are talking of "humans are designed" and you can't tell difference between the man and the designer... God cannot be man my brother, do not confuse.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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AlphDoti wrote:tycho wrote:@Wakanyugi, it's only that we of these times are blind and unfortunately, foolish, that we can't see God or the devil.
When a human is observed, the antagony between the conscious and unconscious comes instinctively. In fact, the way humans are designed, this is a response that resonates with the body-mind during consciousness or more precisely, when a certain brainwave frequency is on.
It therefore takes technique for a human to be able to find harmony with the unconscious.
BTW, the other day I was musing about who 666 might be. The name 'Hermes Tris Megistus' comes to mind. Hermeticism being a preserve for the few smacks of the anti- Christ... Who are you trying to lecture, yet you @tycho could not see the difference between man and God the creator of man. You are talking of "humans are designed" and you can't tell difference between the man and the designer... God cannot be man my brother, do not confuse. God and humans are in essence one. I can understand when you think the observer and the observed are not one. The conscious and the unconscious are in fact one. The alienation you're expressing is the decadence you feel or perceive as 'lecturing'.
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