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Nelson Madiba Mandela!!!!!!!
McReggae
#181 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:13:12 AM
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There are people who cannot acknowledge the contributions of others no matter how seemingly significant. Those who are great recognize greatness in others.
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
seppuku
#182 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:19:49 AM
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B.Timer wrote:
Tokyo wrote:
Sad Sad Sad Wafrika tuko na shida


Soo true!

Who would have thought that a straight forward matter like Mandela's place in world history would spur controversy here!

Uhuru might need to debrief us, otherwise the descend is worrying!

I am satisfied that the Jubilee Goverment has been unequivocal on the issue of Madiba's stature.



Controversy is fine by me. Political incorrectness is fine by me. But insults, conceit, lack of decorum and cowardly attempts at bullying people one disagrees with is not fine by me. And I personally think as an online community we should not tolerate it. Seconders and dissenters are welcome in equal measure.
Learn first to treat your time as you would your money, then treat your money as you do your time.
washiku
#183 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:54:21 AM
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alma wrote:
shit. I actually love arguing with masukuma and simonkabz. At least they make me think. And that is what men are made of. Stand by your ideals and prove them. apana domo domo tu to score wazua points.


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Ati to score points. You mean there are points to be earned in Wazua? From people you hardly know? Where are they redeemable? Kuna divindeds?smile
Mastermind
#184 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 10:56:42 AM
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People from all walks of life will meet at the funeral. The president of United States of Pharisees and sadducees, Mugabe, Kim Jong, Icc suspects, my phone has been tapped,frenemies, development partners, who else?
If you have built castles in the air, your work need not be lost; that is where they should be. Now put the foundations under them.
McReggae
#185 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 11:00:56 AM
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Mastermind wrote:
People from all walks of life will meet at the funeral. The president of United States of Pharisees and sadducees, Mugabe, Kim Jong, Icc suspects, my phone has been tapped,frenemies, development partners, who else?


Mtu ajaribu kuenda jela and still be revered and be relevant 27yrs later. Mandela is simply GREAT but nyef nyef got to be there!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
masukuma
#186 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 11:19:49 AM
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Mandela is who he is - a man who inspired a country to 'accept and move on'. he could have done otherwise and revenged but his decision but he decided to say to himself that
Quote:

I am the master of my fate
I am the captain of my soul

that is greatness. He had an opportunity to leave prison in 1977 but he said no!! He was a man with a great heart - a heart of humanity. However this does not mean that he is the only hero africa has. Stating this does not mean that while some consider Mugabe a hero they are rubbishing Mandela. I have urged people not to be extreme - life is not black or white.
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
Lolest!
#187 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 11:59:11 AM
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McReggae wrote:
When he was a practising lawyer,a black man was accused of raping a white woman.If convicted the sentence would have been most severe.So he looked at woman in the eye and asked her.'You want to say this man here,penetrated you'?:Because of her immense hatred for the 'inferior' race the woman said..'no,no' and the black man was acquitted.

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Lolest!
#188 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:00:53 PM
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Mastermind wrote:
People from all walks of life will meet at the funeral. The president of United States of Pharisees and sadducees, Mugabe, Kim Jong, Icc suspects, my phone has been tapped,frenemies, development partners, who else?

looks like it's going to be the biggest funeral since Princess Diana's.
Laughing out loudly smile Applause d'oh! Sad Drool Liar Shame on you Pray
Mukiri
#189 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:06:47 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
People from all walks of life will meet at the funeral. The president of United States of Pharisees and sadducees, Mugabe, Kim Jong, Icc suspects, my phone has been tapped,frenemies, development partners, who else?

looks like it's going to be the biggest funeral since Princess Diana's.

Security and protocol nightmare

Proverbs 19:21
washiku
#190 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 12:45:47 PM
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alma
#191 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 1:18:42 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Mandela is who he is - a man who inspired a country to 'accept and move on'. he could have done otherwise and revenged but his decision but he decided to say to himself that
Quote:

I am the master of my fate
I am the captain of my soul

that is greatness. He had an opportunity to leave prison in 1977 but he said no!! He was a man with a great heart - a heart of humanity. However this does not mean that he is the only hero africa has. Stating this does not mean that while some consider Mugabe a hero they are rubbishing Mandela. I have urged people not to be extreme - life is not black or white.


My friend. Mugabe will never be a hero. Even in hell, satan will not put him in a pedestal. He'll be having an extra fork to pierce his heart as its so so old.

Mugabe is just some crazy guy that people are waiting to die. When will he die is a common bet in Zimbabwe.

Mugabe is not africanism. He's a dick head who people are are waiting to die.

But I agree with you on Mandela
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Impunity
#192 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 3:01:56 PM
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On a light note:
"Michelin za Michelle zilimpa Mandela Goodyear"

smile smile

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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#193 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 3:26:09 PM
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McReggae wrote:
When he was a practising lawyer,a black man was accused of raping a white woman.If convicted the sentence would have been most severe.So he looked at woman in the eye and asked her.'You want to say this man here,penetrated you'?:Because of her immense hatred for the 'inferior' race the woman said..'no,no' and the black man was acquitted.


Rink please!
I hope this is not one of his famous quotes!
d'oh! d'oh!
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#194 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 3:29:59 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
People from all walks of life will meet at the funeral. The president of United States of Pharisees and sadducees, Mugabe, Kim Jong, Icc suspects, my phone has been tapped,frenemies, development partners, who else?


Mtu ajaribu kuenda jela and still be revered and be relevant 27yrs later. Mandela is simply GREAT but nyef nyef got to be there!


If Ohunye can only accept to go to the Hagwe and jailed for 50 years I bet he would be TWICE as great as Mandela. Who are his advicers here?
@Amores, @Masuksuk,@Am etal...
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

Impunity
#195 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 3:33:52 PM
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Lolest! wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
People from all walks of life will meet at the funeral. The president of United States of Pharisees and sadducees, Mugabe, Kim Jong, Icc suspects, my phone has been tapped,frenemies, development partners, who else?

looks like it's going to be the biggest funeral since Princess Diana's.


Will the good samaritans also attend!
smile
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You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

alma
#196 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:00:16 PM
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Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
People from all walks of life will meet at the funeral. The president of United States of Pharisees and sadducees, Mugabe, Kim Jong, Icc suspects, my phone has been tapped,frenemies, development partners, who else?


Mtu ajaribu kuenda jela and still be revered and be relevant 27yrs later. Mandela is simply GREAT but nyef nyef got to be there!


If Ohunye can only accept to go to the Hagwe and jailed for 50 years I bet he would be TWICE as great as Mandela. Who are his advicers here?
@Amores, @Masuksuk,@Am etal...



Ohunye hatawahi kanhyaga hague. Uliza siringi na amina abdallah. You are dreaming.

Meaning anyone dreming that Uhunye will ever become dreaming is watching Alice in wonderland. Ruto will do it before Uhunye. Tafakari hayo
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
butterflyke
#197 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 4:39:06 PM
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washiku wrote:






bado kuna watu watavuka na picha....
Float like a butterfly, sting like a bee. - Muhammad Ali🐝
Nabwire
#198 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 8:12:55 PM
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masukuma wrote:
Mandela is who he is - a man who inspired a country to 'accept and move on'. he could have done otherwise and revenged but his decision but he decided to say to himself that
Quote:

I am the master of my fate
I am the captain of my soul

that is greatness. He had an opportunity to leave prison in 1977 but he said no!! He was a man with a great heart - a heart of humanity. However this does not mean that he is the only hero africa has. Stating this does not mean that while some consider Mugabe a hero they are rubbishing Mandela. I have urged people not to be extreme - life is not black or white.


I completely agree with this, I think Mandela was a great man, in that he championed black people's rights at a time when apartheid was rife. I think Mugabe did the same thing, only that Mugabe took the militant route while Mandela took the forgive and forget route. Its like the MLK vs Malcolm phenomenon, both were for black rights, only difference was their approach.There are some things I don't agree on with Mugabe, but overall I think he is a hero for demanding that black Zimbabweans be treated as human beings, a basic right. I think the western media has done a good job at vilifying any African leader who goes against their ideals and interests, so I'm about to embark on finding out more about Sankara. I admire Kagame too. I agree with Lolest, that we have let the west decide who is worthy of being celebrated and who is not, case in point Gaddafi!
masukuma
#199 Posted : Saturday, December 07, 2013 11:41:00 PM
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Impunity wrote:
McReggae wrote:
Mastermind wrote:
People from all walks of life will meet at the funeral. The president of United States of Pharisees and sadducees, Mugabe, Kim Jong, Icc suspects, my phone has been tapped,frenemies, development partners, who else?


Mtu ajaribu kuenda jela and still be revered and be relevant 27yrs later. Mandela is simply GREAT but nyef nyef got to be there!


If Ohunye can only accept to go to the Hagwe and jailed for 50 years I bet he would be TWICE as great as Mandela. Who are his advicers here?
@Amores, @Masuksuk,@Am etal...

ngongoz nazo? the problem is that like a hydra you cut of one head 7 more show up! ama huja notice?
All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
harrydre
#200 Posted : Monday, December 09, 2013 2:00:25 PM
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Nabwire wrote:
masukuma wrote:
Mandela is who he is - a man who inspired a country to 'accept and move on'. he could have done otherwise and revenged but his decision but he decided to say to himself that
Quote:

I am the master of my fate
I am the captain of my soul

that is greatness. He had an opportunity to leave prison in 1977 but he said no!! He was a man with a great heart - a heart of humanity. However this does not mean that he is the only hero africa has. Stating this does not mean that while some consider Mugabe a hero they are rubbishing Mandela. I have urged people not to be extreme - life is not black or white.


I completely agree with this, I think Mandela was a great man, in that he championed black people's rights at a time when apartheid was rife. I think Mugabe did the same thing, only that Mugabe took the militant route while Mandela took the forgive and forget route. Its like the MLK vs Malcolm phenomenon, both were for black rights, only difference was their approach.There are some things I don't agree on with Mugabe, but overall I think he is a hero for demanding that black Zimbabweans be treated as human beings, a basic right. I think the western media has done a good job at vilifying any African leader who goes against their ideals and interests, so I'm about to embark on finding out more about Sankara. I admire Kagame too. I agree with Lolest, that we have let the west decide who is worthy of being celebrated and who is not, case in point Gaddafi!



true that. it seems some people here have chosen to believe what they hear from the western media.

70 heads of states attending and people still think mandela was nothimg??
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