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Fundamental investor - Eveready
robertyawe
#1 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 10:24:48 AM
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This is a very stable company with a product that have longevity and it is very well run with no dominant individual shareholder as is visible in a company like EA Cables. Eveready has 3 shareholders who in total own 63% thus providing a balanced ownership.

Many of us urbanites do not appreciate the power of the D battery in powering the country as many of us either have rechargeable devices or use the AA and AAA battery.

At the bottom of the pyramid the D size battery is king, ask your watchman today when you get home which battery he uses.

When looking at the shareholding of EA cables and Eveready it is shocking that less than 6 shareholders have invested more than 1 million shillings and over 99% have less than 10,000/- invested.

It tells you that the over hyped investment groups are over spread. You want your investment group notices then buy 4 million worth of Eveready shares and you will be listed in the annual report.

Eveready is a very tightly run business with very little financial acrobatics which attests to their being able to survive all this years of imported products. To better deal with issues of ownership and management Merali relinquished his chairmanship and board seat which means improved corporate governance.

Eveready has an Achilles hill as relates to the current MD, his too hands on and the board needs to start working on leadership continuity.

If we can develop strong well funded investment groups then we can position for the post Kenyatta generation to take control of listed companies. Investment clubs need to remain unitized and avoid becoming business owners are managers.

In the case of Eveready a buy off of ICDC would cost 72 million, a figure that can be easily raised if 10 or so clubs agreed to put aside their egos and merged. Thus being able to take a decision making position in a good company.

It is said that investment clubs hold over 35 billion (http://www.un.org/ecosocdev/geninfo/afrec/newrels/kenya-grassroots-savings-09.html) of which over 80% (28B) is in non & low performing assets such as plots and taxis.

Eveready has been able to manage their debt very efficiently and even though it took on additional debt last financial year it did it without increasing total interest payments.

For those who did not know Eveready will soon be diversifying into the baby care products such as diaper from the Playtex range this will supplement the other two consumer products for the medium income range energizer & Schick.

With the drop in calling charges from 8/- to 3/- many women who previously could not afford diapers will now be able.

In conclusion the company has a clear strategy which they follow through and this can be seen when you read the annual reports for the past 3 years.

Even though they will not be paying a dividend this year it is a solid company that has above average fundamentals and offers high opportunities for capital gains as a result of its large number of shareholders.
The Merchant
#2 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 10:37:32 AM
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Really? Ill stand on the sidelines on this one. The market is flooded with cheap rechargeable torches. Even my watchie uses one. The age of eveready batteries is dead. The diversification strategy may pay off but in the very long term. It is like starting a new business altogether. Diapers!! The management may be okay but with no product that ensures the company's survival then there is no value in the company is there.
I disagree with you on this one Mr Robert Yawe.
robertyawe
#3 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 12:20:03 PM
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Many said the same about Wrigley's ask Warren


The Merchant wrote:
Really? Ill stand on the sidelines on this one. The market is flooded with cheap rechargeable torches. Even my watchie uses one. The age of eveready batteries is dead. The diversification strategy may pay off but in the very long term. It is like starting a new business altogether. Diapers!! The management may be okay but with no product that ensures the company's survival then there is no value in the company is there.
I disagree with you on this one Mr Robert Yawe.

PKoli
#4 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 2:16:31 PM
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robertyawe wrote:
Many said the same about Wrigley's ask Warren


The Merchant wrote:
Really? Ill stand on the sidelines on this one. The market is flooded with cheap rechargeable torches. Even my watchie uses one. The age of eveready batteries is dead. The diversification strategy may pay off but in the very long term. It is like starting a new business altogether. Diapers!! The management may be okay but with no product that ensures the company's survival then there is no value in the company is there.
I disagree with you on this one Mr Robert Yawe.



With eveready, I am not sure. when a company starts diversifying into anything under the sun one has to be careful. If safcom can feel the heat, what of eveready (mie nyumba ya udongo..)
Much Know
#5 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 3:04:39 PM
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I was hoping they would go into 'save energy' bulbs, use their position to brand and sell, ati daipers jameni?
Meru Holiness
PKoli
#6 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 3:19:48 PM
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Much Know wrote:
I was hoping they would go into 'save energy' bulbs, use their position to brand and sell, ati daipers jameni?


Or venture in solar pannels business!!
sparkly
#7 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 3:52:06 PM
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"Fundamental" and "eveready" should not be used in the same sentence.
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PKoli
#8 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 4:57:10 PM
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@sparkly
I am sure even diehard eveready shareholders know they are speculating
VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Friday, September 03, 2010 7:36:02 PM
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I believe merali controls the firm... thru proxies & such...
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guru267
#10 Posted : Saturday, September 04, 2010 7:53:23 AM
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I don't know How an investor analyses all the stocks on the NSE and actually picks everready as is pick... It beats all logic and sense
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The Merchant
#11 Posted : Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:15:30 PM
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On to you Robert Yawe. Explain to us. help us see what you are seeing friend.
BGL
#12 Posted : Saturday, September 04, 2010 12:16:21 PM
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guru267 wrote:
I don't know How an investor analyses all the stocks on the NSE and actually picks everready as is pick... It beats all logic and sense


In psychology, their is a tendency in people to THINK THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER EVENTS even when they have none. For INVESTORS, such an illusion can lead them to overvalue a losing stock in their portfolio. It also can lead people to imagine there are trends when none exist or believe they can spot a pattern in a stock price chart (TECHNICAL ANALYSTS) and thus predict the future. Charting may be 50% true but it can also be 50% inaccurate hence the conclusion that charting is akin to astrology.
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polymer1
#13 Posted : Saturday, September 04, 2010 3:14:43 PM
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In my view Eveready has lost the plot.Batteries are dead unless they can move into cellphone batteries.Diapers,shavers and the like are not mass market products like battries were a few years back thus their revenue will decline.They didnt take the opportunity to get into solar though they have a brand built on energy solutions.They need either a new management or strategy.If I had the money I would buy it wholesome for the real estate where its factory is located and leave batteries to the chinese.
There is nothing like making money, you have to earn it.
mwanahisa
#14 Posted : Sunday, September 05, 2010 8:42:07 PM
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The market has valued NEveready at the lowest price on the NSE (excepting Kenya Orchards which I have never seen trade), for a good reason. The reason is that they do not expect any improvement in the fortunes of the company anytime soon.

Some time ago the Company diversified into Men's Care products (shaving razor's etc). However, Turnover has continued to drop and profits if any have been miniscule. This company has no competitive advantage in Baby Care products and I expect little from this new line of business.

I know guys who make money from trading in Eveready shares but purely on momentum trades, and they usually don't sleep while they hold the stock. As for investing in this company for the long term, proceed at your own risk.
sparkly
#15 Posted : Sunday, September 05, 2010 10:26:28 PM
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Wazungus very cunning, so they exited everready through the IPO, knowing the company had a bleak future. Kenyan public was sold rotten mangos. They must have cooked the books seriously to dupe cma to allow them to list.
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VituVingiSana
#16 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 5:04:57 AM
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sparkly wrote:
Wazungus very cunning, so they exited everready through the IPO, knowing the company had a bleak future. Kenyan public was sold rotten mangos. They must have cooked the books seriously to dupe cma to allow them to list.
Chief, I read the prospectus & they were clear about the risks... yet MOST Kenyans refuse to read the Prospectus... then bitch!

You do know the over-subscription was MASSIVE for Neveready...?
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
robertyawe
#17 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 10:15:49 AM
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Eveready is an organisation that has survived the test of time through the thick of the KANU regime. It is now ready to take off as they make strategic investments in plant upgrading.

The majority shareholders are not in for the short haul, the MD is also well invested just like MJ is at Safaricom which is a sign of confidence in the organisation. Centum divested because they where not allowed to slaughter the bull which was being fattened.

Many have commented about its low share price yet they have not looked at the number of shareholders.

Any serious investor but learn to carry out in-depth fundamentals on a counter before investing. The speculator has no appreciation of this which is seen in investment clubs aka mbuzi clubs who went off to buy land in Kitengela/Kajiado to plant Eucalyptus for timber without getting that fundamentals which clearly indicated that the particular area could only produce construction polls.

I am exonerated as far as the baby care products are concerned with the results on the population growth rate and the level of urbanisation.

Merali is likely to sell off his holding in Eveready and likely to a Chinese manufacturer looking to penetrate the EA market.

Look at the details and make your own decision.

The Merchant wrote:
On to you Robert Yawe. Explain to us. help us see what you are seeing friend.

the deal
#18 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 10:30:51 AM
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This is just pump and dump...
mwanahisa
#19 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 12:29:25 PM
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@RY. Do not assume that (all) speculators have no appreciation of a company's fundamentals. Succesful speculation actually calls for the speculator to have sufficient information to execute his/her strategy.

Besides, while many people are investors they just can't resist the urge to speculate every now and then. I know most investing books advise one to decide which of the two you are. In my view there's a bit of both in most of us and the two are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

There's nothing like sweet and quick profits as opposed to sitting for months on end on a position before you can make the big score!
sparkly
#20 Posted : Monday, September 06, 2010 12:51:50 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Wazungus very cunning, so they exited everready through the IPO, knowing the company had a bleak future. Kenyan public was sold rotten mangos. They must have cooked the books seriously to dupe cma to allow them to list.
Chief, I read the prospectus & they were clear about the risks... yet MOST Kenyans refuse to read the Prospectus... then bitch!

You do know the over-subscription was MASSIVE for Neveready...?

@vvs, why an IPO? 1. To raise capital for expansion 2. Divest/take profit from a mature business 3. Divest from a business thats no longer worth it/viable if you can't sell it by private treaty... In the case of eveready, it was no. 3, and i am letting those who didn't know to know. You disagree?
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