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VALUATION AND ANALYSIS OF DERIVATIVES & FIXED INCOME SECURITIES
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emlyn ngwiri
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:16:37 PM
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Hi guys, i want your take on the above topic.

Over the past twenty years,derivatives have been seen to be an important study in the field of finance.Options,swaps and futures have been used as a means of price discovery for comodities and as a hedge against risks.the study of FIXED INCOME SECURITIES and DERIVATIVES continues to elude students as they are not taught at universities or even colleges.

If we (CSIA/CFA holdres) are to gradually demutuallise our stock exchange and achieve vision 2030, isnt it in order institutions of higher learning review their syllabus in tune with the changing global market trends?

I know that our capital market is still growing but just like the new costitution that we very well voted for, can't we also amend the law governing financial markets change in line with other emerging markets so that future generations and investors can benefit from a variety of either equity or debt or derivative investment options?
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extrablessed
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:30:01 PM
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@emlyn ngwiri: this sounds like an MBA class term-paper assignment...Hope you dont want us to do this classwork for you...!!!
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emlyn ngwiri
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 12:55:23 PM
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@ extrablessd; NO no, i dont, its merely my vision that the kenyan capital market will be a force to rekon with just like the jse.

i have an interest in investments yet the only university that offers masters investments as of now is KEMU!and they dont teach the above
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The Merchant
#4 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:08:04 PM
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maybe you could start by educating those around you on the topic. After that you could start a school. Ask what you can do for learning in this country not the other way round....
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emlyn ngwiri
#5 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:14:07 PM
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#6 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:24:56 PM
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emlyn ngwiri wrote:
@ extrablessd; NO no, i dont, its merely my vision that the kenyan capital market will be a force to rekon with just like the jse.

i have an interest in investments yet the only university that offers masters investments as of now is KEMU!and they dont teach the above



why not take ur courses from a Uk or US degree...many have online learning options
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extrablessed
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:27:57 PM
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why not take CFA? The course is well covered there...
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emlyn ngwiri
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:44:02 PM
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The CFA in itself is an MBA which is good, but considering the comparative costs to a local MSC in finance the above subject will not be adderessd thoroughly if i would take MSC.
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mukiha
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 1:51:24 PM
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CFA; MBA; CDF.....

Which does @stocksmaster hold? Look how he has played this market...100% return since Jan....

I here he's a pharmacist.... the real kind!
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
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tkzee
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:17:28 PM
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mukiha wrote:
CFA; MBA; CDF.....

Which does @stocksmaster hold? Look how he has played this market...100% return since Jan....

I here he's a pharmacist.... the real kind!

@mukiha,hav you realised that at times those guys who don't have the knowledge are the guyz who end up making money.
Too much know how at times is a disfavor.
''i can calculate the motion of heavenly bodies,but not the madness of people''-Isaac Newton
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qw25041985
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:38:56 PM
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@stockmaster has a Doctorate .
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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emlyn ngwiri
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 4:49:42 PM
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doctorate in?
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qw25041985
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:04:47 PM
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He has a doctorate in Securities analysis and Portfolio manager , from the University of Califonia . He's a good friend of mine .
Your future depends on your dreams so go to sleep !
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emlyn ngwiri
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:41:34 PM
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WOW! that is some serious guy as far as investments is concerned, does he also deal in debt investments?
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cnn
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:46:21 PM
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You fell for that,look at the identity of the character leading you.
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emlyn ngwiri
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 12, 2010 5:49:22 PM
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oh my, that was a nice one,i really fell for it!
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QD
#17 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 9:29:20 AM
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really i think CFA level 2 & 3 tackles well the derivative and fixed income valuation and analysis only if your are interested in reading, else use your gut feeling en may be you will blow the market
The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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ProverB
#18 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 10:57:12 AM
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mukiha wrote:
CFA; MBA; CDF.....

Which does @stocksmaster hold? Look how he has played this market...100% return since Jan....

I hear he's a pharmacist.... the real kind!


a pharmacist whose performance in equity investment is the best evidence of functional illiteracy in all CFA's, MBA, CPA's,economists and all so called Analysts around..we know so much but can't seem to make it work for us.. we seem to be better of advicing, arguing, discussing theories than see them work for ourselves..

we think we improve our chances when we complicate our analysis formulars..and soon throwing about hefty words..stochastic..fibonacci..elliot's wave..bla bla fishcake!!

Stocksmaster is the best tool on wazua to humble some of us.

@Stocksmaster.. EnCORE! good sir. we that have been humbled salute you! Applause Applause Applause Applause
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mwenza
#19 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 11:40:02 AM
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tkzee wrote:
mukiha wrote:
CFA; MBA; CDF.....

Which does @stocksmaster hold? Look how he has played this market...100% return since Jan....

I here he's a pharmacist.... the real kind!

@mukiha,hav you realised that at times those guys who don't have the knowledge are the guyz who end up making money.
Too much know how at times is a disfavor.



I beg to differ. Though a pharmacist by profession, Stocksmaster cannot be said to have "no knowledge". Whenever he makes any transactions, he normally comes up with a rationale for his action/activity.

A perfect example of somebody who is not only schooled but also learned, if you ask me.
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kyt
#20 Posted : Friday, September 17, 2010 12:31:44 PM
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qw is one hell of a sucker, misleading people, bloody hell. From his posts i dont think i can trust him in any way.
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